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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
October 27 2009 22:30 GMT
#141
On October 28 2009 07:02 Roffles wrote:
Because Hyuk has some monstrous ZvZ.

Hyuk > Jaedong. Jaedong > Everyone else at ZvZ.

Therefore, unless my logic fails, Hyuk > All Zergs.

Approved.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
October 27 2009 22:31 GMT
#142
On October 28 2009 07:20 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 04:22 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
On October 28 2009 04:11 jalstar wrote:
just watch how good effort looked against luxury, then watch the sloppiness hyuk showed in beating jaedong.

oh looooooooooooooool. Considering how Hyuk took down Jae "the master of zvz"dong in a straight up mutal micro battle, i dont see where this criticism is coming from.


jaedong made mistakes against hyuk, effort's beaten jaedong at the top of his game, hyuk has a BO win and a sketchy win.


AHAHAHAHA HOW IS HIS ZvZ WIN AGAINST JAEDONG "SKETCHY"?
cw)minsean(ru
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
October 27 2009 22:36 GMT
#143
On October 28 2009 07:20 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 04:22 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
On October 28 2009 04:11 jalstar wrote:
just watch how good effort looked against luxury, then watch the sloppiness hyuk showed in beating jaedong.

oh looooooooooooooool. Considering how Hyuk took down Jae "the master of zvz"dong in a straight up mutal micro battle, i dont see where this criticism is coming from.


jaedong made mistakes against hyuk, effort's beaten jaedong at the top of his game, hyuk has a BO win and a sketchy win.

BO win? Did you even watch the game?
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
siv00
Profile Joined September 2009
261 Posts
October 27 2009 22:44 GMT
#144
Jaedong played mediocrely. Hyuk is just a better ZvZer than he is currently. You cannot use Jaedong as a yardstick to judge Hyuk's chances against Effort.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
October 27 2009 22:50 GMT
#145
On October 28 2009 07:36 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 07:20 jalstar wrote:
On October 28 2009 04:22 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
On October 28 2009 04:11 jalstar wrote:
just watch how good effort looked against luxury, then watch the sloppiness hyuk showed in beating jaedong.

oh looooooooooooooool. Considering how Hyuk took down Jae "the master of zvz"dong in a straight up mutal micro battle, i dont see where this criticism is coming from.


jaedong made mistakes against hyuk, effort's beaten jaedong at the top of his game, hyuk has a BO win and a sketchy win.

BO win? Did you even watch the game?


This man is right. Jaedong and Hyuk were equal going into the final battle (if not adv Jaedong). Plus, Jaedong had drones and buildings under him which surely ate up some of the worm-glaive hits. I didn't look at upgrades, but JD got spanked in that battle i'm sorry to say.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 27 2009 23:01 GMT
#146
BeSt > Hydra
HyuK < EffOrt
Bisu > Snow
fantasy < skYhigh
Bisu > EffOrt
RIP Aaliyah
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
October 27 2009 23:02 GMT
#147
I can't wait until Hyuk returns to being Hyuk so this over the top fanboyism will cease.
Zero fighting.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 27 2009 23:03 GMT
#148
Just ignore jalstars comment; either he's an idiot, or he's trolling. Or both.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
October 27 2009 23:04 GMT
#149
On October 28 2009 07:50 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 07:36 nayumi wrote:
On October 28 2009 07:20 jalstar wrote:
On October 28 2009 04:22 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
On October 28 2009 04:11 jalstar wrote:
just watch how good effort looked against luxury, then watch the sloppiness hyuk showed in beating jaedong.

oh looooooooooooooool. Considering how Hyuk took down Jae "the master of zvz"dong in a straight up mutal micro battle, i dont see where this criticism is coming from.


jaedong made mistakes against hyuk, effort's beaten jaedong at the top of his game, hyuk has a BO win and a sketchy win.

BO win? Did you even watch the game?


This man is right. Jaedong and Hyuk were equal going into the final battle (if not adv Jaedong). Plus, Jaedong had drones and buildings under him which surely ate up some of the worm-glaive hits. I didn't look at upgrades, but JD got spanked in that battle i'm sorry to say.


He's referring to (Z)Hyuk beating (Z)Jaedong in the PL playoffs, not the last game. There's an "and" between "BO win" and "sketchy win". He's calling the last game a "sktechy win"

By the way, Hyuk is clearly a very good ZvZ player. But (Z)EffOrt might have the best ZvZ or anyone at this point. EffOrt will win.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
October 27 2009 23:14 GMT
#150
wow
battle of T1 vs CJ fanboys commence!
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
metaldragon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States251 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-27 23:24:29
October 27 2009 23:20 GMT
#151
If Hyuk beats effort will he finally get the respects he's deserving right about now? Effort is great but hyuk ZvZ has been damn good lately.

Looking at both of there recent ZvZ stats I'm inclined to say that Hyuk actually looking stronger ZvZ than effort.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 27 2009 23:26 GMT
#152
Let's see some nukes from Fantasy. 3 of them.
Otherwise, he is not Boxer's heir.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
October 27 2009 23:38 GMT
#153
On October 28 2009 08:26 Jyvblamo wrote:
Let's see some nukes from Fantasy. 3 of them.
Otherwise, he is not Boxer's heir.

lets be real now. firebats > nukes
cw)minsean(ru
ATLAS-3.04
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States190 Posts
October 27 2009 23:40 GMT
#154
What's with all the mirrors? Dammit, I want Bisu vs Effort! Or Effort vs Fantasy!
"I wheel destoryed, ehh, everywon... okay? In two-souzand-nine! Tank you!" ~Savior, Blizzcon 2008
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
October 27 2009 23:54 GMT
#155
And I want Boxer v.s. Anyone.

If Hyuk defeats Effort, the world will crack, by the screams of Hyuk for bonjwa.
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
October 27 2009 23:57 GMT
#156
I predict a triangle amongst JD, Hyuk, and Effort in the ZvZ masters realm after tonight's game. Effort's beaten JD before too, but Hyuk straight up'd JD so its gonna be good. As for the ace, I say it's Bisu vs Effort. Effort > Bisu.
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vRoOk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1024 Posts
October 27 2009 23:57 GMT
#157
On October 28 2009 08:54 dukethegold wrote:
And I want Boxer v.s. Anyone.

If Hyuk defeats Effort, the world will crack, by the screams of Hyuk for bonjwa.


I think Calm is better than EffOrt

Hyuk>Jaedong>Calm>EffOrt
Breaking Bad
siv00
Profile Joined September 2009
261 Posts
October 28 2009 00:01 GMT
#158
On October 28 2009 08:57 vRoOk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 08:54 dukethegold wrote:
And I want Boxer v.s. Anyone.

If Hyuk defeats Effort, the world will crack, by the screams of Hyuk for bonjwa.


I think Calm is better than EffOrt

Hyuk>Jaedong>Calm>EffOrt


Calm beat Jaedong easily, so that is wrong.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
October 28 2009 00:09 GMT
#159
It's like Calm > Hyuk > Jaedong > Effort
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 00:13:27
October 28 2009 00:10 GMT
#160
On October 28 2009 06:19 ketomai wrote:
To all of the people saying Hyuk > Effort is impossible, it's not. Everyone is citing Effort v Luxury, but in that game Effort had a huge BO advantage, and was just able to dictate play from then on with his much much much faster 2 hatches and 2nd gas. He did an awesome job capitalizing on his advantage, but that does not automatically make his ZvZ godlike because he was given the position to be able to do that due to the BO win.


never said its impossible. Just some SKT fans have unrealistic expectations and are treating hyuk like he has equal/better chances than effort.

Which is, of course, ridiculous. Hyuk, win or lose, is the big underdog.

On October 28 2009 08:20 metaldragon wrote:
If Hyuk beats effort will he finally get the respects he's deserving right about now? Effort is great but hyuk ZvZ has been damn good lately.

Looking at both of there recent ZvZ stats I'm inclined to say that Hyuk actually looking stronger ZvZ than effort.


See this is the kind of stuff I'm rallying against. I'm not saying (and never did say) it was impossible for hyuk to take a b01....but statements like this are ridiculous. I'm not sure if SKT or KHAN fans are worse at overhyping their players.

Actually, its clearly SKT.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
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