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[SPL] SK Telecom T1 vs CJ Entus - Page 9

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hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
October 28 2009 00:25 GMT
#161
PUMPED! lolz got both hyuk and effort
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
October 28 2009 00:27 GMT
#162
On October 28 2009 08:14 Mykill wrote:
wow
battle of T1 vs CJ fanboys commence!


I want more pages of hype for this than there was for SKT1 v. Oz.

On October 28 2009 09:09 crucifix wrote:
It's like Calm > Hyuk > Jaedong > Effort


LOL. STX fans getting in on the action now are we? I don't think Jaedong, EffOrt, or even Hyuk would have a problem with (Z)RORO!
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
October 28 2009 00:39 GMT
#163
On October 27 2009 23:07 Tuke wrote:
(P)BeSt > (Z)Hydra
(Z)Hyuk < (Z)EffOrt
(P)Bisu > (P)Snow
(T)fantasy < (T)sKyHigh
(T)BoxeR < (Z)sAviOr
This would be pretty nice.

CJ ftv


I'm rooting for CJ win, as my liquibet and Fantasy will be screwed up if SKT win, but if it comes as you say, better BoxeR > sAviOr.
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 00:42:18
October 28 2009 00:40 GMT
#164
On October 28 2009 09:39 haster27 wrote:
(P)BeSt > (Z)Hydra
(Z)Hyuk < (Z)EffOrt
(P)Bisu > (P)Snow
(T)fantasy < (T)sKyHigh
(T)BoxeR > (Z)sAviOr FIXED
This would be pretty nice.
CJ ftv


I'm hoping for a Hyuk win. And a CJ win. haha
NaDa/Flash/Thorzain Fan
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
October 28 2009 00:43 GMT
#165
This should be pretty close...the only match that's a foregone conclusion is Bisu vs Snow.

I hope someone streams KT vs Oz.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 28 2009 00:46 GMT
#166
oh my god
why do teams keep putting terrible players vs effort
i keep losing points >:0
:)
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
October 28 2009 00:50 GMT
#167
On October 28 2009 09:46 synapse wrote:
oh my god
why do teams keep putting terrible players vs effort
i keep losing points >:0


BELIEVE IN HYUK
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
October 28 2009 00:51 GMT
#168
On October 28 2009 07:02 Roffles wrote:
Because Hyuk has some monstrous ZvZ.

Hyuk > Jaedong. Jaedong > Everyone else at ZvZ.

Therefore, unless my logic fails, Hyuk > All Zergs.

Hyuk defies all logic lol
That means Hyuk will lose today
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 28 2009 00:54 GMT
#169
On October 28 2009 08:04 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 07:50 On_Slaught wrote:
On October 28 2009 07:36 nayumi wrote:
On October 28 2009 07:20 jalstar wrote:
On October 28 2009 04:22 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
On October 28 2009 04:11 jalstar wrote:
just watch how good effort looked against luxury, then watch the sloppiness hyuk showed in beating jaedong.

oh looooooooooooooool. Considering how Hyuk took down Jae "the master of zvz"dong in a straight up mutal micro battle, i dont see where this criticism is coming from.


jaedong made mistakes against hyuk, effort's beaten jaedong at the top of his game, hyuk has a BO win and a sketchy win.

BO win? Did you even watch the game?


This man is right. Jaedong and Hyuk were equal going into the final battle (if not adv Jaedong). Plus, Jaedong had drones and buildings under him which surely ate up some of the worm-glaive hits. I didn't look at upgrades, but JD got spanked in that battle i'm sorry to say.


He's referring to (Z)Hyuk beating (Z)Jaedong in the PL playoffs, not the last game. There's an "and" between "BO win" and "sketchy win". He's calling the last game a "sktechy win"

By the way, Hyuk is clearly a very good ZvZ player. But (Z)EffOrt might have the best ZvZ or anyone at this point. EffOrt will win.


Can i have an unbiased CJ fanboy(or the closest thing to it) give me a legitimate reason why the person who beat jaedong straight up with no BO advantage is a "huge underdog"? I mean in ZvZ you have about 1/3 of the games decided immediately by BO's and another 1/3 where a BO advantage basically gives you the game. I'm not arguing that Hyuk isnt an underdog, but considering its ZvZ i'd say if Hyuk and Effort played 100 games Hyuk could probably win about 40. I just dont understand why all the Cj fans are treating Hyuk as a random newb who is an auto-loss to Effort.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 00:56:42
October 28 2009 00:56 GMT
#170
On October 28 2009 09:54 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 08:04 tree.hugger wrote:
On October 28 2009 07:50 On_Slaught wrote:
On October 28 2009 07:36 nayumi wrote:
On October 28 2009 07:20 jalstar wrote:
On October 28 2009 04:22 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
On October 28 2009 04:11 jalstar wrote:
just watch how good effort looked against luxury, then watch the sloppiness hyuk showed in beating jaedong.

oh looooooooooooooool. Considering how Hyuk took down Jae "the master of zvz"dong in a straight up mutal micro battle, i dont see where this criticism is coming from.


jaedong made mistakes against hyuk, effort's beaten jaedong at the top of his game, hyuk has a BO win and a sketchy win.

BO win? Did you even watch the game?


This man is right. Jaedong and Hyuk were equal going into the final battle (if not adv Jaedong). Plus, Jaedong had drones and buildings under him which surely ate up some of the worm-glaive hits. I didn't look at upgrades, but JD got spanked in that battle i'm sorry to say.


He's referring to (Z)Hyuk beating (Z)Jaedong in the PL playoffs, not the last game. There's an "and" between "BO win" and "sketchy win". He's calling the last game a "sktechy win"

By the way, Hyuk is clearly a very good ZvZ player. But (Z)EffOrt might have the best ZvZ or anyone at this point. EffOrt will win.


Can i have an unbiased CJ fanboy(or the closest thing to it) give me a legitimate reason why the person who beat jaedong straight up with no BO advantage is a "huge underdog"? I mean in ZvZ you have about 1/3 of the games decided immediately by BO's and another 1/3 where a BO advantage basically gives you the game. I'm not arguing that Hyuk isnt an underdog, but considering its ZvZ i'd say if Hyuk and Effort played 100 games Hyuk could probably win about 40. I just dont understand why all the Cj fans are treating Hyuk as a random newb who is an auto-loss to Effort.

you said it yourself
winning 40% of the time is not very favorable

edit: I don't think Hyuk is a "huge" underdog, but he is definitely an underdog against Effort.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
October 28 2009 01:00 GMT
#171
No point debating ZvZ.

The moral of this story is that ZvZ is a messed up matchup where little things mean victory or defeat (not that this was the case in JD v Hyuks last match).

On top of that, being good in ZvZ clearly doesn't translate to other MUs. Look at Hyuks vT. The matchup is an anomaly and should be seen as such.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
October 28 2009 01:06 GMT
#172
if you really consider the MU. theres no such things at underdogs in ZvZ
shit happens. game ends.
Hyuk is the underdog because when its all over, he has a shitty record and effort has a good one.
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
geegee1
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States618 Posts
October 28 2009 01:07 GMT
#173
i love BOTH teams but i have to say SKT will 3-0 CJ
pew pew
Dandy4
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States493 Posts
October 28 2009 01:08 GMT
#174
(Z)Hyuk vs (Z)EffOrt will be the match i am most looking forward too.
Who let the dogs out?
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
October 28 2009 01:09 GMT
#175
Crap, I have Hyuk, Effort, Fantasy, and Skyhigh on FPL ._.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
October 28 2009 01:12 GMT
#176
goin to be:
(P)BeSt<(Z)Hydra
(Z)Hyuk>(Z)EffOrt
(P)Bisu>(P)Snow
(T)fantasy<(T)sKyHigh
(P)Bisu>(Z)EffOrt

gg SKT T1 3 - 2 CJ entus
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 01:14:58
October 28 2009 01:12 GMT
#177
On October 28 2009 09:56 3 Lions wrote:
winning 40% of the time is not very favorable

edit: I don't think Hyuk is a "huge" underdog, but he is definitely an underdog against Effort.

No one's saying he isn't the underdog. That much is obvious. But there are people who are treating that match like Effort winning is a foregone conclusion when 1) Hyuk has been playing well lately and 2) ZvZ is quite possibly the most volatile matchup in the game.

EDIT:

On October 28 2009 09:10 fusionsdf wrote:
never said its impossible. Just some SKT fans have unrealistic expectations and are treating hyuk like he has equal/better chances than effort.

Which is, of course, ridiculous. Hyuk, win or lose, is the big underdog.

It seems that most likely, both sides are actually in agreement, but are arguing at a position that neither side holds.
Moderator
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
October 28 2009 01:13 GMT
#178
On October 28 2009 10:09 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Crap, I have Hyuk, Effort, Fantasy, and Skyhigh on FPL ._.


It is a win win situation, isn't it? You don't lose any points for a player losing a match.

Unless you have one of them in your anti?
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 28 2009 01:21 GMT
#179
On October 28 2009 10:06 Mykill wrote:
if you really consider the MU. theres no such things at underdogs in ZvZ
shit happens. game ends.
Hyuk is the underdog because when its all over, he has a shitty record and effort has a good one.

13-2 in his last 15 ZvZs is a shitty record? Not to mention 26-6 in his last 32. Although I'll concede that he is the underdog.
Just for comparisons sake, (Z)EffOrt is 8-7 in his last 15 ZvZs. where is this EvZ you speak of?
Before CJ fans kill me, that's a joke -.- I realize Effort played better people than Hyuk, just saying ZvZ is toss up.
In all seriousness though Effort has a bad habit of 12 hatching against 9-pool speed cough -(Z)Calm- cough. Hoping for a BO neutral game and a good one regardless of who wins.
Wow, i just realized most of this thread is attacking or defending Hyuk XD. who would've thought that 4 months ago.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
October 28 2009 01:33 GMT
#180
On October 28 2009 09:46 synapse wrote:
oh my god
why do teams keep putting terrible players vs effort
i keep losing points >:0



i really really couldn't understand u!

hyuk pwns Effort hard time
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
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