EPT[SPL] SK Telecom T1 vs CJ Entus - Page 9
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hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On October 28 2009 08:14 Mykill wrote: wow battle of T1 vs CJ fanboys commence!  I want more pages of hype for this than there was for SKT1 v. Oz. On October 28 2009 09:09 crucifix wrote: It's like Calm > Hyuk > Jaedong > Effort LOL. STX fans getting in on the action now are we? I don't think Jaedong, EffOrt, or even Hyuk would have a problem with  RORO! | ||
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haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
On October 27 2009 23:07 Tuke wrote:  BeSt > HydraHyuk < EffOrtBisu > Snow fantasy < sKyHighBoxeR < sAviOr This would be pretty nice. CJ ftv I'm rooting for CJ win, as my liquibet and Fantasy will be screwed up if SKT win, but if it comes as you say, better BoxeR > sAviOr. | ||
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Sigh
Canada2433 Posts
On October 28 2009 09:39 haster27 wrote: BeSt > HydraHyuk < EffOrtBisu > Snowfantasy < sKyHighBoxeR > sAviOr FIXEDThis would be pretty nice. CJ ftv I'm hoping for a Hyuk win. And a CJ win. haha | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
I hope someone streams KT vs Oz. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
why do teams keep putting terrible players vs effort i keep losing points >:0 | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On October 28 2009 09:46 synapse wrote: oh my god why do teams keep putting terrible players vs effort i keep losing points >:0 BELIEVE IN HYUK | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On October 28 2009 07:02 Roffles wrote: Because Hyuk has some monstrous ZvZ. Hyuk > Jaedong. Jaedong > Everyone else at ZvZ. Therefore, unless my logic fails, Hyuk > All Zergs. Hyuk defies all logic lol That means Hyuk will lose today  | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On October 28 2009 08:04 tree.hugger wrote: He's referring to Hyuk beating Jaedong in the PL playoffs, not the last game. There's an "and" between "BO win" and "sketchy win". He's calling the last game a "sktechy win"By the way, Hyuk is clearly a very good ZvZ player. But EffOrt might have the best ZvZ or anyone at this point. EffOrt will win. Can i have an unbiased CJ fanboy(or the closest thing to it) give me a legitimate reason why the person who beat jaedong straight up with no BO advantage is a "huge underdog"? I mean in ZvZ you have about 1/3 of the games decided immediately by BO's and another 1/3 where a BO advantage basically gives you the game. I'm not arguing that Hyuk isnt an underdog, but considering its ZvZ i'd say if Hyuk and Effort played 100 games Hyuk could probably win about 40. I just dont understand why all the Cj fans are treating Hyuk as a random newb who is an auto-loss to Effort. | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On October 28 2009 09:54 Chen wrote: Can i have an unbiased CJ fanboy(or the closest thing to it) give me a legitimate reason why the person who beat jaedong straight up with no BO advantage is a "huge underdog"? I mean in ZvZ you have about 1/3 of the games decided immediately by BO's and another 1/3 where a BO advantage basically gives you the game. I'm not arguing that Hyuk isnt an underdog, but considering its ZvZ i'd say if Hyuk and Effort played 100 games Hyuk could probably win about 40. I just dont understand why all the Cj fans are treating Hyuk as a random newb who is an auto-loss to Effort. you said it yourself winning 40% of the time is not very favorable edit: I don't think Hyuk is a "huge" underdog, but he is definitely an underdog against Effort. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
The moral of this story is that ZvZ is a messed up matchup where little things mean victory or defeat (not that this was the case in JD v Hyuks last match). On top of that, being good in ZvZ clearly doesn't translate to other MUs. Look at Hyuks vT. The matchup is an anomaly and should be seen as such. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
shit happens. game ends. Hyuk is the underdog because when its all over, he has a shitty record and effort has a good one. | ||
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geegee1
United States618 Posts
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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Piste
6179 Posts
BeSt<HydraHyuk>EffOrtBisu>Snowfantasy<sKyHighBisu>EffOrtgg SKT T1 3 - 2 CJ entus | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 28 2009 09:56 3 Lions wrote: winning 40% of the time is not very favorable edit: I don't think Hyuk is a "huge" underdog, but he is definitely an underdog against Effort. No one's saying he isn't the underdog. That much is obvious. But there are people who are treating that match like Effort winning is a foregone conclusion when 1) Hyuk has been playing well lately and 2) ZvZ is quite possibly the most volatile matchup in the game. EDIT: On October 28 2009 09:10 fusionsdf wrote: never said its impossible. Just some SKT fans have unrealistic expectations and are treating hyuk like he has equal/better chances than effort. Which is, of course, ridiculous. Hyuk, win or lose, is the big underdog. It seems that most likely, both sides are actually in agreement, but are arguing at a position that neither side holds. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On October 28 2009 10:09 Kyuukyuu wrote: Crap, I have Hyuk, Effort, Fantasy, and Skyhigh on FPL ._. It is a win win situation, isn't it? You don't lose any points for a player losing a match. Unless you have one of them in your anti? | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On October 28 2009 10:06 Mykill wrote: if you really consider the MU. theres no such things at underdogs in ZvZ shit happens. game ends. Hyuk is the underdog because when its all over, he has a shitty record and effort has a good one. 13-2 in his last 15 ZvZs is a shitty record? Not to mention 26-6 in his last 32. Although I'll concede that he is the underdog. Just for comparisons sake, EffOrt is 8-7 in his last 15 ZvZs. where is this EvZ you speak of? Before CJ fans kill me, that's a joke -.- I realize Effort played better people than Hyuk, just saying ZvZ is toss up. In all seriousness though Effort has a bad habit of 12 hatching against 9-pool speed cough - Calm- cough. Hoping for a BO neutral game and a good one regardless of who wins.Wow, i just realized most of this thread is attacking or defending Hyuk XD. who would've thought that 4 months ago. | ||
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
On October 28 2009 09:46 synapse wrote: oh my god why do teams keep putting terrible players vs effort i keep losing points >:0 i really really couldn't understand u! hyuk pwns Effort hard time | ||
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