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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
October 15 2009 11:24 GMT
#261
This is my pet hate on tl, people that dont update results, if you know you cant do it dont make the thread :\
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Etopen
Profile Joined September 2009
United States138 Posts
October 15 2009 11:25 GMT
#262
On October 15 2009 20:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2009 20:21 Etopen wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:19 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:18 konadora wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:15 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Looking at Flash's stats, does ultimate PL count for TLPD? He's got a loss in there that could only count from losing to Sea there or Leta in STX Masters.

hope not, if not you have to count the Line up matches and stuff too.


Well, look at it, it says his last loss came before his win against Really, and his loss to Iris isn't on there when it should be.


Lost to Iris? This never happened in these few week.


He hasn't played a lot of TvTs lately. The games against Iris should still be on the last 10 games he's played.


In the GOMTV final, he only 1 game out of 4 game which makes him won the match. So that's 1 win counts on tldp, it doesn't count game but match.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
October 15 2009 11:27 GMT
#263
On October 15 2009 20:24 Scaramanga wrote:
This is my pet hate on tl, people that dont update results, if you know you cant do it dont make the thread :\

and it's a temp ban (or warning first, not sure) =/
POGGERS
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 11:28:01
October 15 2009 11:27 GMT
#264
On October 15 2009 20:25 Etopen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2009 20:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:21 Etopen wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:19 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:18 konadora wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:15 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Looking at Flash's stats, does ultimate PL count for TLPD? He's got a loss in there that could only count from losing to Sea there or Leta in STX Masters.

hope not, if not you have to count the Line up matches and stuff too.


Well, look at it, it says his last loss came before his win against Really, and his loss to Iris isn't on there when it should be.


Lost to Iris? This never happened in these few week.


He hasn't played a lot of TvTs lately. The games against Iris should still be on the last 10 games he's played.


In the GOMTV final, he only 1 game out of 4 game which makes him won the match. So that's 1 win counts on tldp, it doesn't count game but match.


No, I don't think you get TLPD. Even so, if that were the case it'd be counted as a win and his second to most recent game wouldn't be an L.
Remember Violet.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 11:28:03
October 15 2009 11:27 GMT
#265
SHIMIDA!!

*dunno what is it ;D
INnoVation TY Maru | Classic Stats Dear sOs Zest herO | Rogue Dark soO
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
October 15 2009 11:28 GMT
#266
On October 15 2009 20:24 Scaramanga wrote:
This is my pet hate on tl, people that dont update results, if you know you cant do it dont make the thread :\



i wanted to say just that...
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 11:29:37
October 15 2009 11:28 GMT
#267
Flash so good!

Results
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(T)Flash > (P)DaezanG
(P)Anytime < (Z)by.hero
(T)Flash > (Z)by.hero
(P)Anytime < (P)DaezanG
(Z)by.hero < Destination > (P)DaezanG
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 11:32:07
October 15 2009 11:28 GMT
#268
On October 15 2009 20:25 Etopen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2009 20:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:21 Etopen wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:19 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:18 konadora wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:15 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Looking at Flash's stats, does ultimate PL count for TLPD? He's got a loss in there that could only count from losing to Sea there or Leta in STX Masters.

hope not, if not you have to count the Line up matches and stuff too.


Well, look at it, it says his last loss came before his win against Really, and his loss to Iris isn't on there when it should be.


Lost to Iris? This never happened in these few week.


He hasn't played a lot of TvTs lately. The games against Iris should still be on the last 10 games he's played.


In the GOMTV final, he only 1 game out of 4 game which makes him won the match. So that's 1 win counts on tldp, it doesn't count game but match.


Are you positive it doesnt count every game, only the final result of a series? Doesnt seem right to me...
Actually I'm fairly certain you are wrong.
See Bisu's ELO peak for example: it's after the first game of his Bo5 series against JD (03.2009), which he lost 3-2.
BW fighting!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51622 Posts
October 15 2009 11:28 GMT
#269
fail overlay
Commentator
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
October 15 2009 11:29 GMT
#270
On October 15 2009 20:24 HopLight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2009 20:10 darktreb wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:06 538 wrote:
On October 15 2009 19:57 Holgerius wrote:I feel that Jaedong is the only threat to Flash with his current form.

I think he might be also vulnerable to Calm's mind games or Kwanro's all-in style, maybe even Effort. But damned impressive display of class, nonetheless.


I think he's at a bit of a loss as to what to do against Bisu too. I get the feeling Bisu is the one player where Flash doesn't feel like he can play his turtle style and win because Bisu's late game is also so insanely good.

Of course nothing changes the fact that Flash is like 1-10 or something against Bisu/Jangbi/Stork/Best/Kal this year, which is depressing.


VS:

Kal 1:1
Bisu 2:5
Best 0:1
Jangbi 0:1
Stork 0:1

Not good but not 1:10, the only one who's really been beating him consistently is Bisu, 1 game doesn't really count


Yeah 3-9 is not so bad. What also has hurt is how significant the games have been - almost every single loss has come at a terrible time for either Flash or KT (then again given how important Flash is and how bad KT has been, maybe this isn't so surprising).

The Kal loss essentially eliminated KT from the playoffs. 4 Bisu losses knocked Flash out of GOM S2 and WCG Korea. The Best loss knocked him out of OSL. The Jangbi/Stork losses came in round 4 when KT was already on life support (though they were basically screwed all year when Flash didn't win).

I would like to see Flash mix it up a bit in TvP but the problem is when he does against good players he loses (Best in OSL, Bisu game on Sin Chupung Ryeong, hell even Shuttle beat him on Holy World). He also has few opportunities to be tested because he literally wins EVERY TvP against mediocre P when he plays turtle style.
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
October 15 2009 11:30 GMT
#271
gogo daezang!
1000 at least.
Etopen
Profile Joined September 2009
United States138 Posts
October 15 2009 11:31 GMT
#272
On October 15 2009 20:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2009 20:25 Etopen wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:21 Etopen wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:19 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:18 konadora wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:15 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Looking at Flash's stats, does ultimate PL count for TLPD? He's got a loss in there that could only count from losing to Sea there or Leta in STX Masters.

hope not, if not you have to count the Line up matches and stuff too.


Well, look at it, it says his last loss came before his win against Really, and his loss to Iris isn't on there when it should be.


Lost to Iris? This never happened in these few week.


He hasn't played a lot of TvTs lately. The games against Iris should still be on the last 10 games he's played.


In the GOMTV final, he only 1 game out of 4 game which makes him won the match. So that's 1 win counts on tldp, it doesn't count game but match.


No, I don't think you get TLPD. Even so, if that were the case it'd be counted as a win and his second to most recent game wouldn't be an L.


He lost to Sea in the PL ULTIMATE and won against Really in the next TvT match. I don't see how it's wrong, the L is correct.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 11:36:13
October 15 2009 11:31 GMT
#273
On October 15 2009 20:31 Etopen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2009 20:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:25 Etopen wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:21 Etopen wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:19 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:18 konadora wrote:
On October 15 2009 20:15 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Looking at Flash's stats, does ultimate PL count for TLPD? He's got a loss in there that could only count from losing to Sea there or Leta in STX Masters.

hope not, if not you have to count the Line up matches and stuff too.


Well, look at it, it says his last loss came before his win against Really, and his loss to Iris isn't on there when it should be.


Lost to Iris? This never happened in these few week.


He hasn't played a lot of TvTs lately. The games against Iris should still be on the last 10 games he's played.


In the GOMTV final, he only 1 game out of 4 game which makes him won the match. So that's 1 win counts on tldp, it doesn't count game but match.


No, I don't think you get TLPD. Even so, if that were the case it'd be counted as a win and his second to most recent game wouldn't be an L.


He lost to Sea in the PL ULTIMATE and won against Really in the next TvT match. I don't see how it's wrong, the L is correct.


Good thing you read my first question asking if PL showmatches count for TLPD. Which they don't, otherwise flash's most recent game against protoss would be a win (jaehoon in ultimate PL) instead of a lose (Bisu in WCG). :>

I'm thinking there was some error that put's the loss to Iris as more recent than the wins.
Remember Violet.
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
October 15 2009 11:32 GMT
#274
DaeZang WTF is this..
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
October 15 2009 11:35 GMT
#275
seems strangely familiar so far... Bisu vs JD anyone in the PL all-stars?
BW fighting!
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
October 15 2009 11:39 GMT
#276
On October 15 2009 20:35 538 wrote:
seems strangely familiar so far... Bisu vs JD anyone in the PL all-stars?

Just cause it's the same map?
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
October 15 2009 11:39 GMT
#277
Ah, come ON Daezang! Bring it! You're off to a decent start, now secure that third!
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
October 15 2009 11:40 GMT
#278
On October 15 2009 20:39 GinNtoniC wrote:
Ah, come ON Daezang! Bring it! You're off to a decent start, now secure that third!

... and that's how you screw up a decent start by getting screwed by mutal...
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 15 2009 11:40 GMT
#279
Dangzang:<
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
October 15 2009 11:40 GMT
#280
Baby July got this i think
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
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