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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7817 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 10:55:08
October 15 2009 10:54 GMT
#221
Jesus christ. That game reminded me of Loki II v Jaedong with the huge army roming around the map.
(Not as good obviously but you know)

When the game first started and Hero's mutas were popping I was like "oh man here we go again.. another game where Flash doesn't have turrents..." but his control was great. Fun game. And definitely shows up some other TvZ'er who was in this MSL + Show Spoiler +
*cough* Leta *cough*
jello24
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada327 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 10:55:36
October 15 2009 10:55 GMT
#222
Flash just layed down a smackdown on hero... he's not messing around early in the season, hope it stays like this until the inevitable JD vs Flash MSL duel that will probably not happen.
just lurking around...
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
October 15 2009 10:55 GMT
#223
No nitpicks here - wow

One of the most impressive TvZs of the year - just insane play.

No other Terran can play M&M this well in my opinion
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 15 2009 10:57 GMT
#224
Just wow... by.hero is by no means a horrible player, but that was a complete and utter rape. Wow. I feel that Jaedong is the only threat to Flash with his current form. May they avoid each other until the finals.

Flash's bio micro (and everything else) is nothing short of spectacular. I hope he sticks to playing bio instead of boring and overrated mech.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
October 15 2009 10:58 GMT
#225
The smart move by Flash was to move out with his initial army so that the mutas wouldn't harass his base. This gave Flash a small advantage and by.hero was behind when his 2 hatch muta build did no harass damage.
Stork protoss legend
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
October 15 2009 11:00 GMT
#226
OP not updated. -_-
I know where my towel is.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
October 15 2009 11:00 GMT
#227
OP isn't updated.
POGGERS
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
October 15 2009 11:01 GMT
#228
You know, there's always a time of the year when everyone complains about Flash. Either they call him overrated, boring, a one hit wonder, etc. It's times like these when you can't fault him that really make me smile. He's just so amazingly good and while being his fan is a trial in frustration, games like these make it worth it.
Remember Violet.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 11:03:06
October 15 2009 11:02 GMT
#229
that was one hell of a sexy game. flash is in really great shape. i hope he wins a title this season. he deserves it. topnotch mechanics and multitasking combined with the best sense for timings in the entire proscene...
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
October 15 2009 11:03 GMT
#230
On October 15 2009 20:01 TwoToneTerran wrote:
You know, there's always a time of the year when everyone complains about Flash. Either they call him overrated, boring, a one hit wonder, etc. It's times like these when you can't fault him that really make me smile. He's just so amazingly good and while being his fan is a trial in frustration, games like these make it worth it.

cheers to that.
Woo Jung Ho
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
October 15 2009 11:04 GMT
#231
Well, last season there seemed to have been some debate as regards to the top terran. That debate seems pretty settled right about now. Flash is the only terran who can win against the trend in any MU.

Unless he meets a top PvT player like Bisu or Stork, Flash should advance pretty far this season.

On October 15 2009 19:58 InDaHouse wrote:
The smart move by Flash was to move out with his initial army so that the mutas wouldn't harass his base. This gave Flash a small advantage and by.hero was behind when his 2 hatch muta build did no harass damage.


Well, doing what Flash did require insane confidence in your MnM control. Terrans don't usually do that because it results in the initial army getting creamed quickly. Flash obviously didn't think much of hero's muta micro.
Meh
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
October 15 2009 11:05 GMT
#232
That's it, I'm changing my icon to olleh KT. I love bio TvZ so much. Mech TvZ makes me appreciate bio so much more when I see it done so sexy.

I think Flash's most vulnerable matchup by far right now is TvP...no Terran can touch him, and only one Zerg can, I think (I don't need to say who).

Also Flash currently on a 9 game TvZ win streak.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
October 15 2009 11:06 GMT
#233
On October 15 2009 19:57 Holgerius wrote:I feel that Jaedong is the only threat to Flash with his current form.

I think he might be also vulnerable to Calm's mind games or Kwanro's all-in style, maybe even Effort. But damned impressive display of class, nonetheless.
BW fighting!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 11:07:08
October 15 2009 11:06 GMT
#234
On October 15 2009 20:05 Hinanawi wrote:
That's it, I'm changing my icon to olleh KT. I love bio TvZ so much. Mech TvZ makes me appreciate bio so much more when I see it done so sexy.

I think Flash's most vulnerable matchup by far right now is TvP...no Terran can touch him, and only one Zerg can, I think (I don't need to say who).

Also Flash currently on a 9 game TvZ win streak.


Don't forget the 11 game TvT with a fair showing in TvP (1-2 in close games with Bisu ain't half bad).

On October 15 2009 20:06 538 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2009 19:57 Holgerius wrote:I feel that Jaedong is the only threat to Flash with his current form.

I think he might be also vulnerable to Calm's mind games or Kwanro's all-in style, maybe even Effort. But damned impressive display of class, nonetheless.


Calm is the only one of those zergs he hasn't completely dismantled recently.
Remember Violet.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
October 15 2009 11:07 GMT
#235
On October 15 2009 20:04 baubo wrote:
Well, doing what Flash did require insane confidence in your MnM control. Terrans don't usually do that because it results in the initial army getting creamed quickly. Flash obviously didn't think much of hero's muta micro.


You mean the Luxury acquisition has actually started to pay off? Only took like a year.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
October 15 2009 11:08 GMT
#236
On October 15 2009 20:05 Hinanawi wrote:
That's it, I'm changing my icon to olleh KT. I love bio TvZ so much. Mech TvZ makes me appreciate bio so much more when I see it done so sexy.

I think Flash's most vulnerable matchup by far right now is TvP...no Terran can touch him, and only one Zerg can, I think (I don't need to say who).

Also Flash currently on a 9 game TvZ win streak.



but flash also is a tvp monster. seriously, when he pushes out in tvp u better shit ur pants....

somehow he is a fucking monster in every matchup right now. the only player to stop him in this form is probably jaedong. man... i hope so much for non-mirror starleague finals this season...
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
October 15 2009 11:10 GMT
#237
On October 15 2009 20:06 538 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2009 19:57 Holgerius wrote:I feel that Jaedong is the only threat to Flash with his current form.

I think he might be also vulnerable to Calm's mind games or Kwanro's all-in style, maybe even Effort. But damned impressive display of class, nonetheless.


I think he's at a bit of a loss as to what to do against Bisu too. I get the feeling Bisu is the one player where Flash doesn't feel like he can play his turtle style and win because Bisu's late game is also so insanely good.

Of course nothing changes the fact that Flash is like 1-10 or something against Bisu/Jangbi/Stork/Best/Kal this year, which is depressing.
ATLAS-3.04
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States190 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 11:11:58
October 15 2009 11:10 GMT
#238
Wow, perfect stream Solinren! Thank you!!!!! :D

Flash is the smex. <3 Hoping Anytime can pull through.
"I wheel destoryed, ehh, everywon... okay? In two-souzand-nine! Tank you!" ~Savior, Blizzcon 2008
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
October 15 2009 11:12 GMT
#239
On October 15 2009 20:10 ATLAS-3.04 wrote:
Wow, perfect stream Solinren! Thank you!!!!! :D

Flash is the smex. <3 Hoping Anytime can pull through.

I'm streaming on solinren
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-15 11:13:34
October 15 2009 11:12 GMT
#240
On October 15 2009 20:10 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2009 20:06 538 wrote:
On October 15 2009 19:57 Holgerius wrote:I feel that Jaedong is the only threat to Flash with his current form.

I think he might be also vulnerable to Calm's mind games or Kwanro's all-in style, maybe even Effort. But damned impressive display of class, nonetheless.


I think he's at a bit of a loss as to what to do against Bisu too. I get the feeling Bisu is the one player where Flash doesn't feel like he can play his turtle style and win because Bisu's late game is also so insanely good.

Of course nothing changes the fact that Flash is like 1-10 or something against Bisu/Jangbi/Stork/Best/Kal this year, which is depressing.


Yeah, I was actually talking about tvz only, Bisu and Stork are serious threats too.

Also Kal, but I'm biased:-p Remember how he raped him on Destination not so long ago with 3 simultanous DT attacks? It was beautiful
BW fighting!
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