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Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
August 19 2009 14:20 GMT
#241
On August 19 2009 11:01 0cz3c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2009 00:45 On_Slaught wrote:
A lot of blind rage here. Just from actually READING the posts, it seems all the hate towards blizzard is unwarranted.

Multiple people have said that it was Kespa, not blizzard, who deteremined which korean players went.

The chinese wcg qualifier is going on during the same time, hence their good toss' don't come to blizzcon.

About the non-asian foreigners... I suppose they felt that Ret and Idra were the top 2, so race wasn't a factor.

Yes, the lack of protoss does suck, but it seems this is the best we could get based upon what was available.



No, I doubt that what you're seeing is blind rage. First of all, the elimination of protoss is fairly significant. It's huge. It eliminates 66 percent of the game. It doesn't seem that this is the best that was available. I'm not entirely certain of Blizzard's relationship/partnership with GOM, but the options appearing on GOM offered two Protoss. There were, furthermore, many other players in Korea available for this tournament which, I'm sure would have accepted. Also, there are MANY protoss in the foreign community who would have LOVED the opportunity to come to Blizzcon. Do you think it conceivable that every single one of them was unavailable? Doubt it.

No one is questioning at all their choice to pick Ret (or Idra). They are almost unquestionably the two current best foreigners on the scene.

And those "multiple" (I count one.) people would probably be wrong. Blizzard is in a corporate war against KESPA. Do you really think that KESPA would have much control over sending people to Blizzcon? No. KESPA might tell the players no, and that would certainly limit some teams and players, but that wouldn't make a significant impact at all for the reason that Blizzard has many other Korean and foreign players from which to choose.

It's a blatant lack of effort on their own part, and that has led to the frustration here.


66% of the game? Please enlighten me to how you come up with this number since as far as I'm concerned there are 6 matchups and only 3 has protoss.
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2669 Posts
August 19 2009 14:20 GMT
#242
On August 19 2009 11:01 0cz3c wrote:

No, I doubt that what you're seeing is blind rage. First of all, the elimination of protoss is fairly significant. It's huge. It eliminates 66 percent of the game.


How did you get 66%? I can only get 50%. Unless you don't include mirrors. Which you should.

This is a bit lame with these lineups, I'm just going to watch the WoW stream instead seeing as that's the biggest WoW tournament there is. Will be more interesting than seeing even more Terrans and Zergs playing eachother (had enough of that recently).
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
August 19 2009 14:59 GMT
#243
Effort needs to learn 'some stupid shit that makes no sense' otherwise he's going down.
starPride
Profile Joined June 2009
United States142 Posts
August 19 2009 17:14 GMT
#244
im not sure if the time is right on the side it says 1pm-2;30 pm and this is PST rite? ;d and the time is different on this site for it
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
August 19 2009 17:48 GMT
#245
On August 20 2009 02:14 starPride wrote:
im not sure if the time is right on the side it says 1pm-2;30 pm and this is PST rite? ;d and the time is different on this site for it

Just follow the time on Blizzcon's website.
petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
August 19 2009 18:00 GMT
#246
finally people are staring to realize how skilless protoss really is
Mod Edit: Don't bold your entire post
qwstarplayer
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden5 Posts
August 19 2009 18:01 GMT
#247
savior will end up last.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
August 19 2009 18:14 GMT
#248
lol, i like the pros they invited but cmon, at least bring Stork or Free or someone!
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
August 19 2009 18:21 GMT
#249
I wonder if Idra will be able to take even 1 game off Effort. Probably not.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
August 19 2009 18:28 GMT
#250
i hope for a NaDa vs sAviOr final again

NaDa vs Ret is pretty exciting aswell
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
August 19 2009 19:05 GMT
#251
On August 19 2009 23:59 niteReloaded wrote:
Effort needs to learn 'some stupid shit that makes no sense' otherwise he's going down.

Couldn't agree more
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
csfield
Profile Joined October 2008
United States206 Posts
August 19 2009 19:25 GMT
#252
wtf @ no protoss
I know that I have never once considered how my TV viewing habits impact the progression of civilization. --Bibbit
Substandard
Profile Joined October 2008
Italy270 Posts
August 19 2009 19:37 GMT
#253
On August 20 2009 03:21 Zzoram wrote:
I wonder if Idra will be able to take even 1 game off Effort. Probably not.


Uh what do you mean by "even one game"? If he really does manage to take one it would be huge
alt.tday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
August 19 2009 19:52 GMT
#254
wait. is this sc1 or sc2?
♠Spades ♣Clubs ♥Hearts ♦Diamonds ★★★★★
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 19 2009 19:59 GMT
#255
LOL. I'm sorry IdrA, but GL. ^_^
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
August 19 2009 20:08 GMT
#256
heh, I love how all the recent tourneys have been nothing but terran and zerg
On August 18 2009 15:29 GTR wrote:
Zero has like zero fans outside of Korea.
Stupid Blizzard.

this post makes me angry
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
August 19 2009 20:16 GMT
#257
only NaDa vs Ret is worth to watch imo
geegee1
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States618 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-19 20:31:57
August 19 2009 20:31 GMT
#258
skyhigh semifinalist gom 3 LOL
mensol quarterfinalist gom 3
ret - terran god they are so good at making mistakes
pew pew
Qexen
Profile Joined October 2005
Canada19 Posts
August 19 2009 20:40 GMT
#259
protoss... wow...
Protoss Pride
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
August 19 2009 21:00 GMT
#260
But... if there are no protosses, we don't get to see any terrans own them. =(
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