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yakii *
Profile Joined June 2006
Korea (South)1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-19 07:36:09
February 15 2008 14:49 GMT
#1
Flower's strategy which played in Survivor Group D was quite funny.

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(P)YoonJoong < Zodiac > (Z)Flower



Part 1 / Part 2

GomTV


Actually, that strategy was known for Sonic's Gas grandma(가스할망구), and here's the his strategy.

Sonic's SC video clip : Video links(Mncast)

Download links : Part 1 / Part 2


1. Build extractor with 9th drone.

2. block ramp with 2 drones and build pool.

3. after you get 200 gases then destroy your extractor.

4. You should be shown like a newbie. That's the key to this strategy.

5. upgrade zergling speed and burrow.

6. When burrow upgade is completed, burrow your zerglings and hide them under overload.

7. After hiding zerglings, share your vision with your enermy like you just make a mistake and build more hatchery to lure enermy's units.

8. Turn off vision sharing, then Build Sunken colonies and more zeglings to depend your base.

9. While your are defending your base, attack enemy's base with your hidden zerglings under overload.
사마난
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-15 15:23:02
February 15 2008 15:22 GMT
#2
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But, If yoonjoong checked the gas amount of geyser, he would be prepared for this trick. So all of flower's effort go to the dumb.
But yeah, who thinks in game that "OH NOES HE'S UPGRADING BORROW AND LING SPEED"
axel
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
France385 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-15 15:26:49
February 15 2008 15:26 GMT
#3
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that was quite funny but destroying his gas and blocking choke was a waste , i mean even a chobo would notice that he got speed gling so..
yakii *
Profile Joined June 2006
Korea (South)1448 Posts
February 15 2008 15:29 GMT
#4
On February 16 2008 00:22 Hyperionnn wrote:
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But, If yoonjoong checked the gas amount of geyser, he would be prepared for this trick. So all of flower's effort go to the dumb.
But yeah, who thinks in game that "OH NOES HE'S UPGRADING BORROW AND LING SPEED"


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hahaha yes, I was surprised when he used this trick and after that game, YJ said he was also embarrased cause there was no extractor and lings were speed upgraded. (source)
사마난
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
February 15 2008 15:39 GMT
#5
that was hilarious :D thanks for sharing
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
February 15 2008 15:45 GMT
#6
Interesting indeed ;D One question comes to mind, if people found out that he gave vision on purpose, wouldn't that be considered as illegal in terms of professional gaming?
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
February 15 2008 15:47 GMT
#7
On February 16 2008 00:45 meRz wrote:
Interesting indeed ;D One question comes to mind, if people found out that he gave vision on purpose, wouldn't that be considered as illegal in terms of professional gaming?
i figure he just meant that's how sonic did it, with burrow and hiding lings and sharing vision and everything, just as a funny trick
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
February 15 2008 15:51 GMT
#8
Flower didn't actually share vision of course. He let the probe in to scout that he has built no extractor - then he pursued the probe with his SPEEDED Zerglings -_- Self-owned.
Complete the cycle!
kramus
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1259 Posts
February 15 2008 16:05 GMT
#9
amusing...i wonder if yoonjoong would have guessed it if flower had actually killed the scouting probe in time before his speed upgrade finished. probably still would have
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
February 15 2008 16:07 GMT
#10
Yeah, he ruined it when he killed the probe with speedlings. Savior at least was smart enough to hit 'hold position' before speed was finished.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
February 15 2008 16:25 GMT
#11
I guess that's why he hit stop right after he killed the probe. Wich was kinda embarassing of him to expect he could fool him after such a chase haha.

I'm no zerg player but the only thing to expect (given the scout dies early enough) other than speed is a hatch somewhere else right? But that would'nt be really smart i guess...
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 15 2008 17:04 GMT
#12
....
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
February 15 2008 17:18 GMT
#13
Someone PLEASE upload a pack of Sonic's VODs to tracker :O I remember watching them on Afreeca for like 6 hours, they're so funny.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
February 15 2008 17:52 GMT
#14
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i dont get the point of killing the extractor, sure in the sonic video it applies but not in flowers game...
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 15 2008 18:20 GMT
#15
that was one of the most retarded games i've ever witnessed, any toss that loses to that should be executed. Flower let the scouting probe in really blatantly, plus when zerg's ling speed is done it's preeeeeetty obvious. He wasted 2 drones early on which hurt his economy so much
ShoutAbout
Profile Joined April 2007
Brazil177 Posts
February 15 2008 18:29 GMT
#16
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It would have worked fine if he wasn't facing a progamer.
Get off my plane!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
February 15 2008 18:34 GMT
#17
On February 16 2008 03:20 zulu_nation8 wrote:
that was one of the most retarded games i've ever witnessed, any toss that loses to that should be executed. Flower let the scouting probe in really blatantly, plus when zerg's ling speed is done it's preeeeeetty obvious. He wasted 2 drones early on which hurt his economy so much

i agree. and also, how can a team's coach and/or leaders accept this strategy? OGN must be in really bad shape...
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
February 15 2008 20:25 GMT
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I'm not quite sure what was going on in flower's head... I mean, it's great to fool your opponent, but I don't see any viable way that could've worked when he made the fact that it was all-in so obvious, making p cannon up a lot. Maybe he was counting on being scouted later, giving him a slightly better economy? Letting p scout "half" of the build probably confused the fuck out of him, but I think he went too all-in on it; I'm not positive, but perhaps if he had done that exact same thing, except with drones after the initial 6 lings, and if he had managed to kill probe before speed, and had p not checked the geyser's gas amount, outside of having a slower economy, it would have still forced p to make atleast a 2nd cannon much earlier than he normally would have wanted, and perhaps another after discovering speed, but z could've had a stable nat going... and then maybe the speed would pay off... though I spose there's no real advantage to having hidden the gas, and not just gone normal 9pool speed. Though if he had done a normal 9pool speed, blocking the ramp MIGHT still throw off p a little, though I can't think of anything else protoss would assume other than a 9pool if the ramp is blocked... And then blocked the pool normally with another cannon or two to be super safe...
All in all, I don't see any way that could've worked except MAYBE on hitchhiker, not vs a semi competent player, especially not vs a progamer


Regardless, I definitely lol'd when he let that probe in, it was so obvious it was on purpose I was laughing my ass off rofl
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 15 2008 20:37 GMT
#19
That was very creative I thought, + Show Spoiler +
I'd love to see it actually work
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24718 Posts
February 15 2008 21:15 GMT
#20
I still can't stop laughing over Sonic's video. The sad thing is it wouldn't work that well vs a low level player since they wouldn't be predictable...
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