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Flash vs Effort BigFile MSL Ro32 game analysis. - Page 2

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gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
April 13 2011 01:19 GMT
#21
On April 13 2011 09:53 Mobius wrote:
hehe, EffOrt wasnt the only CJ member to fake an allin and double expand on Flash.

I remember watching this game live.. This was an AMAZING game, but there was some story behind it which made it even better for a huge EffOrt fan such as myself. (:

Basically Flash was all like "im the best, i've reached nirvana blah blah" Then lost to EffOrt lol, then right after that, he lost the OSL to EffOrt.. Then Flash I think picked EffOrt to be in his group, not sure but either way he said something like "EffOrts acting better than he is, its time for me to put him in his place" then he got roflstomped in this game haha I even made a pic about it (:

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[image loading] Yes the games are the opposite way they should be but whatever lol


i love you dude! haha
JAEDONG ÜBERBONJWA!
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
April 13 2011 01:32 GMT
#22
I don't like it when people say Effort is cheesy. He played smart in this game and Flash got owned by it
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0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
April 13 2011 01:38 GMT
#23
I haven't even read it yet but THANK YOU SO MUCH

I LOVE EFFORT
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
April 13 2011 02:36 GMT
#24
Best part about this game is that Effort called Flash a noob in the pregame chat and ended up rolling him :D.
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gamapg
Profile Joined January 2010
Philippines189 Posts
April 27 2011 10:42 GMT
#25
I have to say...

I like the
*Puts on sunglasses
(Z)EffOrt in writing this article
YEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

But yeah, there's something about Effort I don't like... I mean there's just a certain mystique with Jaedong/Savior/ Yellow but I just don't fancy Effort's play... I appreciate those strokes of Geniuses BOs like Stork, Fantasy, Bisu (new timing for the +1 speed lot), etc... but not effort... oh well each to his own
Sajiki
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany522 Posts
April 27 2011 11:01 GMT
#26
amazing game on an amazing map
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ggggbabybabybaby
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada304 Posts
April 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#27
On April 13 2011 09:53 Mobius wrote:
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[image loading] Yes the games are the opposite way they should be but whatever lol


Pocari sweat over the MSL vs JD was amazing. Thanks.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
April 27 2011 20:21 GMT
#28
On April 27 2011 19:42 gamapg wrote:
I have to say...

I like the
*Puts on sunglasses
(Z)EffOrt in writing this article
YEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

But yeah, there's something about Effort I don't like... I mean there's just a certain mystique with Jaedong/Savior/ Yellow but I just don't fancy Effort's play... I appreciate those strokes of Geniuses BOs like Stork, Fantasy, Bisu (new timing for the +1 speed lot), etc... but not effort... oh well each to his own

Its because he is an alien isn't it?
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2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Zyferous
Profile Joined September 2010
United States270 Posts
April 27 2011 21:21 GMT
#29
I started watching progames shortly after effort retired so after readin your battle report I am definitely looking forward to his comeback
Jaedong forever.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
April 27 2011 21:52 GMT
#30
Thanks for writeup

I remember watching the game live and this was a perfect anti-Flash build. I'm kind of surprised more players haven't used this against Flash.
Biggest thing I remember from the game was Flash expansion timings were controlled by Effort. Generally Flash gets his third and fourth finish just as the zerg 4th expo finishes. In this game Effort had his 4th before either of Flash's 2 new expos went online. This was due to the no unit style from effort and Flash's defensive stance against 2 hatch lurker. The defensive tank style was thus delayed just enough for Effort to get off his double drop. It was a perfectly executed 4 base timing attack from Effort. Weird to know that everything was calculated up to that point.
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
April 27 2011 22:39 GMT
#31
yea... nice analysis and great fucking play by effort. Can't wait to see him return to the scene, Hite will be a killer team with his addition.
jaedong imba
m4gdelen4
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
April 27 2011 22:57 GMT
#32
On April 12 2011 21:29 naneri wrote:
Mondern pro-starcraft leaves less and less space for something really interesting, so every game like this is a treasure.


QFT
it does to blue what blue does to you
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
April 28 2011 03:21 GMT
#33
Hey starleague winner,
You’re that mister mister
That beat flash today, Oh em gee
The way you won is rare you know
Hey starleague winner, you carried CJ through its darkest times that night
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 03:25:59
April 28 2011 03:25 GMT
#34
August 31st
I'll be waiting.
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Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
April 28 2011 04:03 GMT
#35
Effing hell I want to see effort vs Bisu
See how he fares against neo bisu
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CakeOrI)eath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States327 Posts
April 28 2011 07:43 GMT
#36
What a great prediction by Effort. I never really thought Effort was all that good but this game he played perfectly.

Good write up! I am looking forward to more in the future!
Opportunities multiply as they are seized.
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
April 28 2011 10:31 GMT
#37
Nice write-up! I remember seeing this live, poor Flash really got mindfucked by Effort in that one!

Hahaha Mobius those pictures are genius

On April 28 2011 12:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
Hey starleague winner,
You’re that mister mister
That beat flash today, Oh em gee
The way you won is rare you know
Hey starleague winner, you carried CJ through its darkest times that night


Nice
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Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 11:56:58
April 28 2011 11:53 GMT
#38
Hahaha I love effort. I can't wait to see him play again.

Even though, I'm a Flash fan, I couldn't help but be amazed by Effort's play, or maybe because I'm a Flash fan and I see him outplaying Flash that I am amazed by him.

Edit: Awesome analysis by the way!
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erin[go]bragh
Profile Joined December 2008
United States815 Posts
April 29 2011 02:53 GMT
#39
Was such a good game. I'm so glad effort is coming back! I thought no other zerg would be able to fill the void left by Julyzerg when he disappeared from televised games, but effort proved me wrong. I still remember the very first live game I saw from him, I believe it was one of his first proleague appearances, where he played a great ZvP with tons of drops and aggression. I liked him immediately.

The swarm can use some help. JD can't do it all alone and Hydra is just... meh.
JulyZerg! by.hero, effOrt, KTY.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
April 29 2011 05:57 GMT
#40
The first ever Effort game was the one vs Bisu, where moletrap said he was better than Jaedong.

I feel like this win in the MSL was actually done by effort, whereas the idiocy from Flash allowed effort to win the OSL.
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