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[Spoilers] ZerO vs Bisu OSL Winner's Interview

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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
July 08 2009 16:36 GMT
#1
Didn't think the other 3 will be that interesting, so I just decided to translate this. As much as I hate ZerO... -___-

ZerO: "I am the 'Young Prince' so I love the 'Queen'."
"I didn't want to play a boring macro game, so I went for queens."


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- You advanced into the Round of 8 by going 3-0.
▲ I am happy that I advanced 3-0, as what I said in the group selection stage, and I am even happier than I used a new strategy to win.

- You won by using the Queen's Spawn Broodling ability.
▲ The map is made such that it's difficult to break through when your opponent's units are on the ridge. That is why I didn't want to play a boring macro game. To avoid that, I was thinking of different methods before thinking about the Queen's 'Spawn Broodling' ability.

- You have been using the Queen a lot.
▲ I am nicknamed 'Young Prince', and I think that is why I love the 'Queen' more.

- The Queen is a tough unit to micro, so it is not easy to use.
▲ During practice I had to target the high templars, but they are so small that sometimes I miss clicking them. I was slightly nervous too today, so I didn't utilize the ability fully. I was supposed to completely destroy his main army after killing his high templars but I wasn't able to do that.

- Bisu's resistance was strong.
▲ In practice, after I used the 'spawn broodling' ability, the games ended there. But as expected of Bisu, he was different. Luckily, I was able to push all the way with my second attack so I was rather fortunate.

- You hid your queens all the way until the end.
▲ If the opponent knows and attacks before my queen's mana is full, there'll be a period where I'm in danger. It is best to hide your queens' existence until the end.

- Weren't the practice matches tough?
▲ Both Proleague and OSL use the same map so I was wondering when I should use this build. After thinking hard, I felt that I had to use this against the strongest Protoss, Bisu.

- You have been performing stylishly in the OSL.
▲ I can't deny that I'm unaware of it. In the previous OSL, I used the queen twice, so I felt that I had to use the queen again.

- You are being picked as the strongest Royal Roader candidate.
▲ I think it's still too early to talk about that. I have to at least get into the semifinals to talk about being a Royal Roader.

- You did not play in Proleague today.
▲ It was a great help. I wasn't in the entry today so I was able to focus more in my individual league. I am thankful towards my coaching staff.

- Any final words?
▲ Crazy-Hydra made his debut today but he lost, so I hope he quickly wins the next time. Also, Free hyung lost twice today so he's been feeling very down. I hope, as our team's ace player, he cheers up soon.

Source: Fomos.kr

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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
July 08 2009 16:40 GMT
#2
Thanks for translation. Hurray for Zero schooling Bisu!
TranslatorBaa!
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
July 08 2009 16:44 GMT
#3
On July 09 2009 01:36 konadora wrote:
- You won by using the Queen's Spawn Broodling ability.
▲ The map is made such that it's difficult to break through when your opponent's units are on the ridge. That is why I didn't want to play a boring macro game. To avoid that, I was thinking of different methods before thinking about the Queen's 'Spawn Broodling' ability.


I always had a feeling Zero hated standard games. In his game against Hwasin, it was kind of as if he couldn't wait for his advantage to pile on enough to infest the command center. Nice to see a progamer who actually wants to play in an enjoyable way rather than just as a robot.




- You are being picked as the strongest Royal Roader candidate.
▲ I think it's still too early to talk about that. I have to at least get into the semifinals to talk about being a Royal Roader.


Will be rooting for Stork. But if he's eliminated, I'll definitely be rooting for Zero as the royal roader.
Meh
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
July 08 2009 16:47 GMT
#4
I love ZerO more and more as time goes on~~
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checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
July 08 2009 16:48 GMT
#5
Thx konadora and thx for the stream last night =D i call this but Leta lossing U,U
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
July 08 2009 16:53 GMT
#6
fuck zero is going to take this title >.>

he played brilliant today
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 08 2009 16:53 GMT
#7
Thanks for the interview Konadora. Haha, he cant even hide the smirk on his face " I humiliated the best Toss in the world using Queens." I love Zero, he has become the most entertaining Zerg this season, he will win OSL if he doesnt run into JD or Leta in a bo5.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
fnaticNoname
Profile Joined January 2008
India858 Posts
July 08 2009 16:56 GMT
#8
thanks for the translation and good job by ZerO beating Bisu
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
July 08 2009 16:58 GMT
#9
HOLYSHIT QUEENS VS BISU O___O
thx for transate
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pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
July 08 2009 16:59 GMT
#10
thanks for the translation, man that was a nice game!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
July 08 2009 17:00 GMT
#11
cite your source Zero!
was it TL Strat fourm?
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
July 08 2009 17:00 GMT
#12
How can you hate Zero, he's so adorable.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 08 2009 17:00 GMT
#13
On July 09 2009 01:53 samachking wrote:
Thanks for the interview Konadora. Haha, he cant even hide the smirk on his face " I humiliated the best Toss in the world using Queens." I love Zero, he has become the most entertaining Zerg this season, he will win OSL if he doesnt run into JD or Leta in a bo5.


you saying he will beat fantasy or Bisu in a Bo5? o.O
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Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
July 08 2009 17:06 GMT
#14
On July 09 2009 02:00 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 01:53 samachking wrote:
Thanks for the interview Konadora. Haha, he cant even hide the smirk on his face " I humiliated the best Toss in the world using Queens." I love Zero, he has become the most entertaining Zerg this season, he will win OSL if he doesnt run into JD or Leta in a bo5.


you saying he will beat fantasy or Bisu in a Bo5? o.O


I dunno about Bisu in a Bo5, but he can certainly beat fantasy in a Bo5. One of my favorite Zero games was when he took apart fantasy on Colo2.
Zero fighting.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-08 17:11:19
July 08 2009 17:10 GMT
#15
he totally just read this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=97064

oh and i almost forgot: Thanks alot for the translation! <3
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
July 08 2009 17:17 GMT
#16
On July 09 2009 02:00 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 01:53 samachking wrote:
Thanks for the interview Konadora. Haha, he cant even hide the smirk on his face " I humiliated the best Toss in the world using Queens." I love Zero, he has become the most entertaining Zerg this season, he will win OSL if he doesnt run into JD or Leta in a bo5.


you saying he will beat fantasy or Bisu in a Bo5? o.O


As for Bisu, the map pool is fairly zerg favored in ZvP. And if you think that doesn't matter, just look at how Fantasy defeated Bisu in the last OSL, and how Luxury dismantled Jangbi in the MSL.

I think a Zero vs Fantasy would be awesome, as both are known to be very good at strategies. But ZvT is Zero's best matchup.
Meh
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
July 08 2009 17:24 GMT
#17
hahah i love zero
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
July 08 2009 17:29 GMT
#18
Wtf, none of the Fomos pictures have been working for me since the MSL Group F Translation. =[ Anybody else?
Jaedong
prOxi.Beater
Profile Joined December 2008
Denmark626 Posts
July 08 2009 17:32 GMT
#19
I really like ZerO and I hope he continues to improve. His style is very fresh in a bw scene that has been stagnating a little, at least strategically, ever since focus shifted onto strong mechanics and macro. Also I just like zerg players for some reason Q(^_^Q)
Nobody beats the Beater
magh
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden95 Posts
July 08 2009 17:47 GMT
#20
Thank you for the translation.
And God, ZerO played so brilliantly...
And the front door is open.. AGAIN!!
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
July 08 2009 17:52 GMT
#21
It might sounds weird coming from a Bisu fanatic, but I'm glad KTY lost, he should drop OSL, focus completely on MSL, win the thing and cement his immortality in the history of SC as the only player ever to win 4 MSLs
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Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
July 08 2009 17:55 GMT
#22
Aww... poor Free =/
So nice of Stars' coaching staff in letting him off. <3
And lol at the young prince/queen analogy.

Thanks for the translation konadora
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
July 08 2009 18:13 GMT
#23
Hmmm so I wonder if he is going to continue to try and use this strategy or if it was just one of those new strategies used only a few times then forgotten. Was a fun game to watch I'm surprised how effective it was.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
July 09 2009 01:25 GMT
#24
On July 09 2009 02:17 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 02:00 SuperArc wrote:
On July 09 2009 01:53 samachking wrote:
Thanks for the interview Konadora. Haha, he cant even hide the smirk on his face " I humiliated the best Toss in the world using Queens." I love Zero, he has become the most entertaining Zerg this season, he will win OSL if he doesnt run into JD or Leta in a bo5.


you saying he will beat fantasy or Bisu in a Bo5? o.O


As for Bisu, the map pool is fairly zerg favored in ZvP. And if you think that doesn't matter, just look at how Fantasy defeated Bisu in the last OSL, and how Luxury dismantled Jangbi in the MSL.

I think a Zero vs Fantasy would be awesome, as both are known to be very good at strategies. But ZvT is Zero's best matchup.

I dunno why you mentioned fantasy vs bisu last osl

not only was that tvp, maps were tough but still doable. the main reason bisu got 3-0ed instead of something like 3-2 was cus fantasy deviated from the usual t1 terran style. He got turrets set up extremely early.
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ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3820 Posts
July 09 2009 01:32 GMT
#25
Zero is one cool player
: o )
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
July 09 2009 01:33 GMT
#26
that quote by zero about the prince and the queen thing is so gay
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Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
July 09 2009 01:39 GMT
#27
ZerO has been my favorite player for the past few months now, and this game only made me like him more. I really hope he takes this OSL.
themonkyguy
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia149 Posts
July 09 2009 01:41 GMT
#28
thank you for the translation konadora :D

I hate Zero too...luckily I hate bisu more
CJ Entusman #48 (-_-)
sk`
Profile Joined November 2008
Japan442 Posts
July 09 2009 01:45 GMT
#29
Zero's play was inspiring to say the least. Clearly, he has some of the best micro in SC right now.
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
July 09 2009 01:52 GMT
#30
where's the thank you note to TL?
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
July 09 2009 02:03 GMT
#31
Such an epic game. Good job zero!
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-09 02:17:57
July 09 2009 02:17 GMT
#32
On July 09 2009 02:17 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 02:00 SuperArc wrote:
On July 09 2009 01:53 samachking wrote:
Thanks for the interview Konadora. Haha, he cant even hide the smirk on his face " I humiliated the best Toss in the world using Queens." I love Zero, he has become the most entertaining Zerg this season, he will win OSL if he doesnt run into JD or Leta in a bo5.


you saying he will beat fantasy or Bisu in a Bo5? o.O


As for Bisu, the map pool is fairly zerg favored in ZvP. And if you think that doesn't matter, just look at how Fantasy defeated Bisu in the last OSL, and how Luxury dismantled Jangbi in the MSL.

I think a Zero vs Fantasy would be awesome, as both are known to be very good at strategies. But ZvT is Zero's best matchup.



eh, zeros worst matchup is zvt. He could definitely take Bisu and Fantasy in a bo5 depending how he is playing.

KING OF QUEENS.
qaswedfr25
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States212 Posts
July 09 2009 02:24 GMT
#33
Did Zero read this thread?
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
July 09 2009 02:32 GMT
#34
On July 09 2009 10:41 themonkyguy wrote:
thank you for the translation konadora :D

I hate Zero too...luckily I hate bisu more


LOL same here.
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Cres
Profile Joined November 2008
United States227 Posts
July 09 2009 02:43 GMT
#35
Zero's best MU is probably ZvZ, though he hasn't really been showing it lately. He can definitely beat Bisu in Bo5, especially with Holy World.
Fae
shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
July 09 2009 02:44 GMT
#36
Use of queens
if it succeeds= you are a hero for being so "innovative" and "courageous"
if it fails= you are looked on as a fool
bigsack
Profile Joined August 2007
Korea (North)220 Posts
July 09 2009 02:56 GMT
#37
Very entertaining game and interesting strategy by Mensol. I hope he wins the OSL.
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Hollywoodxix
Profile Joined May 2009
United States10 Posts
July 09 2009 03:07 GMT
#38
i really don't like Zero, he seems to be able to succeed Bisu in arrogance, but i dont think he will be a powerhouse in the future.
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GrimAngel
Profile Joined September 2008
United States416 Posts
July 09 2009 03:27 GMT
#39
after watching this game i think im actually starting to like zero
Wan step ahead!
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 09 2009 03:33 GMT
#40
On July 09 2009 02:00 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 01:53 samachking wrote:
Thanks for the interview Konadora. Haha, he cant even hide the smirk on his face " I humiliated the best Toss in the world using Queens." I love Zero, he has become the most entertaining Zerg this season, he will win OSL if he doesnt run into JD or Leta in a bo5.


you saying he will beat fantasy or Bisu in a Bo5? o.O


Depends which ZerO shows up that day.

The "hulk smash" ZerO has the skill to easily 3-2 or 3-1 both Fantasy and Bisu. Even a 3-0 isn't out of reach when ZerO is playing to his actual potential

"Shit" ZerO will just lose, and he will lose badly.

Lately the former has been showing up. No idea if he's here to stay or if he will disappear again.
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Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
July 09 2009 03:41 GMT
#41
I don't think Zero has a "best" or "worst" matchup, really.
Zero fighting.
Xusneb
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada612 Posts
July 09 2009 03:46 GMT
#42
Ok, someone in Korea who can talk to Zero (Nevergg, lilsusie, anyone???) needs to ask him where he got this strategy! I'm pretty sure he thought it up independently from village_idiot's guide but the coincidence is just too much for me. It would be LOLZ if he borrowed the guide
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SingletonWilliam
Profile Joined April 2008
United States664 Posts
July 09 2009 03:47 GMT
#43
There's nothing I like seeing more than Bisu getting schooled... except when it happens to Jaedong. This interview got me really pumped up to see the games, way to go ZerO.
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Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
July 09 2009 03:52 GMT
#44
Yeah I was freaking out as i commented this game. I posted it in another thread so I wont post it here, but know thats its definitely worth watching if you havent seen it yet.

Queens vs Bisu + it actually working = most epic game of 2009
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
July 09 2009 03:58 GMT
#45
If ZerO can manage to avoid running into Jaedong/EffOrt he looks to have a great chance at making it as a royal roader. I've got a feeling he'll have to go through Jaedong at some point though, and we all know how that would probably end.
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
July 09 2009 04:02 GMT
#46
On July 09 2009 11:17 mog87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 02:17 baubo wrote:
On July 09 2009 02:00 SuperArc wrote:
On July 09 2009 01:53 samachking wrote:
Thanks for the interview Konadora. Haha, he cant even hide the smirk on his face " I humiliated the best Toss in the world using Queens." I love Zero, he has become the most entertaining Zerg this season, he will win OSL if he doesnt run into JD or Leta in a bo5.


you saying he will beat fantasy or Bisu in a Bo5? o.O


As for Bisu, the map pool is fairly zerg favored in ZvP. And if you think that doesn't matter, just look at how Fantasy defeated Bisu in the last OSL, and how Luxury dismantled Jangbi in the MSL.

I think a Zero vs Fantasy would be awesome, as both are known to be very good at strategies. But ZvT is Zero's best matchup.



eh, zeros worst matchup is zvt. He could definitely take Bisu and Fantasy in a bo5 depending how he is playing.

KING OF QUEENS.


You can't just look at TLPD percentages for this stuff. Zero has improved his ZvT dramatically since he first came to the scene. His ZvZ decision-making is quite lacking, even if his micro is amazing. Between his ZvT and ZvP, when I watch his games I find his ZvT much more smooth than his ZvP. Although he's had some clunkers in ZvTs recently.

On July 09 2009 10:25 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 02:17 baubo wrote:
On July 09 2009 02:00 SuperArc wrote:
On July 09 2009 01:53 samachking wrote:
Thanks for the interview Konadora. Haha, he cant even hide the smirk on his face " I humiliated the best Toss in the world using Queens." I love Zero, he has become the most entertaining Zerg this season, he will win OSL if he doesnt run into JD or Leta in a bo5.


you saying he will beat fantasy or Bisu in a Bo5? o.O


As for Bisu, the map pool is fairly zerg favored in ZvP. And if you think that doesn't matter, just look at how Fantasy defeated Bisu in the last OSL, and how Luxury dismantled Jangbi in the MSL.

I think a Zero vs Fantasy would be awesome, as both are known to be very good at strategies. But ZvT is Zero's best matchup.

I dunno why you mentioned fantasy vs bisu last osl

not only was that tvp, maps were tough but still doable. the main reason bisu got 3-0ed instead of something like 3-2 was cus fantasy deviated from the usual t1 terran style. He got turrets set up extremely early.


Only to show map balance could lead to a lesser player beating a superior player. It was the series that came to my mind, as I don't want to keep thinking back to historical ZvPs.
Meh
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
July 09 2009 04:16 GMT
#47
On July 09 2009 13:02 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 11:17 mog87 wrote:
On July 09 2009 02:17 baubo wrote:
On July 09 2009 02:00 SuperArc wrote:
On July 09 2009 01:53 samachking wrote:
Thanks for the interview Konadora. Haha, he cant even hide the smirk on his face " I humiliated the best Toss in the world using Queens." I love Zero, he has become the most entertaining Zerg this season, he will win OSL if he doesnt run into JD or Leta in a bo5.


you saying he will beat fantasy or Bisu in a Bo5? o.O


As for Bisu, the map pool is fairly zerg favored in ZvP. And if you think that doesn't matter, just look at how Fantasy defeated Bisu in the last OSL, and how Luxury dismantled Jangbi in the MSL.

I think a Zero vs Fantasy would be awesome, as both are known to be very good at strategies. But ZvT is Zero's best matchup.



eh, zeros worst matchup is zvt. He could definitely take Bisu and Fantasy in a bo5 depending how he is playing.

KING OF QUEENS.


You can't just look at TLPD percentages for this stuff. Zero has improved his ZvT dramatically since he first came to the scene. His ZvZ decision-making is quite lacking, even if his micro is amazing. Between his ZvT and ZvP, when I watch his games I find his ZvT much more smooth than his ZvP. Although he's had some clunkers in ZvTs recently.

Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 10:25 .risingdragoon wrote:
On July 09 2009 02:17 baubo wrote:
On July 09 2009 02:00 SuperArc wrote:
On July 09 2009 01:53 samachking wrote:
Thanks for the interview Konadora. Haha, he cant even hide the smirk on his face " I humiliated the best Toss in the world using Queens." I love Zero, he has become the most entertaining Zerg this season, he will win OSL if he doesnt run into JD or Leta in a bo5.


you saying he will beat fantasy or Bisu in a Bo5? o.O


As for Bisu, the map pool is fairly zerg favored in ZvP. And if you think that doesn't matter, just look at how Fantasy defeated Bisu in the last OSL, and how Luxury dismantled Jangbi in the MSL.

I think a Zero vs Fantasy would be awesome, as both are known to be very good at strategies. But ZvT is Zero's best matchup.

I dunno why you mentioned fantasy vs bisu last osl

not only was that tvp, maps were tough but still doable. the main reason bisu got 3-0ed instead of something like 3-2 was cus fantasy deviated from the usual t1 terran style. He got turrets set up extremely early.


Only to show map balance could lead to a lesser player beating a superior player. It was the series that came to my mind, as I don't want to keep thinking back to historical ZvPs.


I didnt just look at TLPD, I just think his ZvT is most fragile, then again it is ZvT, but all of his matchups are relatively close.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
July 09 2009 08:42 GMT
#48
Just watched, very nice Queen usage... IMO it seems like Zerg is the last race to hit their full potential, lots of good Zergs nowadays rather than just 1 hero at a time.
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Moldova1219 Posts
July 09 2009 08:50 GMT
#49
I wonder if this is just a one time strategy, or it could work well as a build order in games. He said the zerg is weak before queens get the energy, but it seems like they worked so well in that game.
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United States1389 Posts
July 09 2009 08:51 GMT
#50
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 09 2009 09:05 GMT
#51
TY for the translation kona!

Queens usage was really cool, I wish he could have elaborated a bit more on the timing for the queens
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Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-09 09:52:54
July 09 2009 09:14 GMT
#52
Best candidate for a royal road for sure . Yeah like others have said if he avoids the other ZvZ experts he has a good chance at royal roading this OSL .

Edit: uh forgot Effort so yeah , Zero is the second best royal road candidate if effort manages to get out of his group .
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
July 09 2009 09:55 GMT
#53
On July 09 2009 18:14 raga4ka wrote:
Best candidate for a royal road for sure . Yeah like others have said if he avoids the other ZvZ experts he has a good chance at royal roading this OSL .

Edit: uh forgot Effort so yeah , Zero is the second best royal road candidate if effort manages to get out of his group .

Effort isn't a royal roader.
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Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
July 09 2009 11:09 GMT
#54
Must be hard to be the only Ace Player for Stars. Poor Free
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Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-14 12:52:43
July 14 2009 12:52 GMT
#55
Nice interview, thanks for translation konadora.
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