EPTOn May 14 2009 03:35 Ace wrote:
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KeSPA, a negative influence to e-Sports? - Page 3
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
Edit: Well, that's exactly what we expect from Microsoft, but you get my point, right? | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
 this however applies \/  freaking rules billion rules. i think its because its a game and not really a sport they try to make up rules to make it sound more legit.  | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On May 14 2009 06:33 Mykill wrote:freaking rules billion rules. i think its because its a game and not really a sport they try to make up rules to make it sound more legit. Thats a ridiculously stupid statement. The rules were placed for a reason, inorder to avoid confusion after certain events; the rules were poorly constructed though. And I'm pretty sure a game where players practice 9-14 hours a day in leagues involving thousands of dollars is legit. | ||
Kinky
United States4126 Posts
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
Could you explain what the MBC All-kill league was (and show us on the doll where KESPA touched it), for us new kids? | ||
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On May 14 2009 07:33 Kinky wrote: Can someone explain what exactly a metal detector scan is supposed to check for? What's metal and can help a player in the game? Whatever it is, shouldn't everyone be able to see it? Afterall, they play inside clear booths, not private rooms or something. a little vibrator that vibrates if the other guy is doing a proxy or some stupid shit | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
Kespa's fine. They're making changes. | ||
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jodogohoo
Canada2533 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
On May 14 2009 07:37 CDRdude wrote: Could you explain what the MBC All-kill league was (and show us on the doll where KESPA touched it), for us new kids? MBC All-Kill league is, afaik, similar structure to Winner's League (WL borrowed the structure, but w/e), and included leagues such as the LG-IBM MTL (MBC Team League), MBCMovies TL and Tucson TL. MBC ran these solely. Edit: Or were you being sarcastic? I can't tell :< | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
-(Boxer to Savior) I ask you to do me a favor. I tried to do this before I went to army but I think it is late for me to do it now. I hope you can create a player union type of thing where influential players gather to create a better environment for less known player base. ▲ Savior= It is impossible to even imagine players from different teams to gather. Too much team based... ▲ Boxer= But if no action is taken, it will only get worse. Even after I returned from army, I thought that it was very unfair for players. ▲ Shim Hyun Team Manager= I think it is best if we make another time to discuss this matter. In the case of baseball league, a lot of places and people provided help for player association. I think it is same for e-Sports that we need a lot of help from people to do this. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On May 13 2009 20:02 kaleidoscope wrote: Ending of 'All-kill league': Prevent Jaedong from bringing Oz up to 2nd position in winners league (oz cannot survive without him) On May 13 2009 22:12 AzureEye wrote: Wtf. The winner's league is gone because of Kespa? fuck.. oh my god... NO...Winner's League was a KeSPA proleague thing. They're talking about an older team league MBCgame put on before KeSPA took over...this was like way back. It was in All-Kill format, but was only bo5 I think. | ||
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
On May 14 2009 03:22 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: estro and t1 don't play because of the IEG/KeSPA connection OGN/MBC dont play because the corporates see gom as competition AND they fear legal action from kespa when their players play in something not kespa sanctioned as is defined in the broadcasting rights that kespa created and sold to IEG ace doesnt play for whatever reason Come on FakeSteve, ACE does indeed play in GOM this season. Aren't you watching? | ||
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
On May 14 2009 08:44 PH wrote: oh my god... NO...Winner's League was a KeSPA proleague thing. They're talking about an older team league MBCgame put on before KeSPA took over...this was like way back. It was in All-Kill format, but was only bo5 I think. It was Bo7 | ||
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e.soul[gm]
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GTR
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omG.[RaYnE]
Philippines100 Posts
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Pioneer
994 Posts
On May 14 2009 03:27 p4NDemik wrote: ace does play in Gom. What basis would KeSPA/IEG have to sue MBC/OGN if they let their players play in GOM? I don't see the connection you're trying to make. Those teams don't play purely because OGN/MBC don't want the added competition. KeSPA doesn't have the power to dictate what events teams can not participate in - they can only tell them which events the teams absolutely have to participate in. (and that's pretty much limited to PL) Basically what I'm asking is what clause in the broadcasting rights makes MBC and OGN's progaming teams KeSPA's bitch? MBC would pull their sponsorship of Hero if the coaches ignored them. Legal battle with KeSPA/IEG > losing a small portion of their income. If MBC pulled their sponsorship of Hero, Hero would essentially die and the players would go to other teams. They can't even keep their stars from leaving with the money MBC sends to them. (July, Bisu, TheZerg and they almost lost Pusan) So in a sense they can tell Hero what to do (OGN isn't even a part of this anymore since Hite owns Sparkyz now) and unless the coaches want to lose their jobs and see their hardwork disappear they listen. and KeSPA and IEG are butt buddies, IEG owns the rights to PL and MBC is sure as hell not pulling out of PL over 1 league that is in competition with them. | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On May 14 2009 12:00 omG.[RaYnE] wrote: imo they just need a new batch of much more intelligent people making the rules and such It doesn't matter who is making the rules on KeSPA's side, in the end, they need players' input to make rules that actually do what they are intended to do, and not bullshit like what has been happening. On May 14 2009 12:11 Pioneer wrote: MBC would pull their sponsorship of Hero if the coaches ignored them. Legal battle with KeSPA/IEG > losing a small portion of their income. If MBC pulled their sponsorship of Hero, Hero would essentially die and the players would go to other teams. They can't even keep their stars from leaving with the money MBC sends to them. (July, Bisu, TheZerg and they almost lost Pusan) So in a sense they can tell Hero what to do (OGN isn't even a part of this anymore since Hite owns Sparkyz now) and unless the coaches want to lose their jobs and see their hardwork disappear they listen. and KeSPA and IEG are butt buddies, IEG owns the rights to PL and MBC is sure as hell not pulling out of PL over 1 league that is in competition with them. Yes, I know MBC would never go along with the team going rogue, that's not what I'm talking about, because that will never happen. What I want to know is how KeSPA would have any legal basis to go after MBC/OGN if they (for whatever reason) changed their minds and let their teams participate in GOM events. | ||
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GTR
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OGN still run the team. | ||
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