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[PL News] Spear transferred to Hwaseung OZ

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zincsterio
Profile Joined March 2008
119 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-02 14:52:14
March 02 2009 14:50 GMT
#1
(P)Spear[Shield] has been transferred to Hwaseung Oz from OGN. Oz felt that this would strengthen their Protoss lineup.

In my opinion, Hwaseung's Protoss lineup must suck a lot to have to import (P)Spear, whose only notable achievement is knocking (Z)sAviOr out of the MSL a couple of seasons ago. Anyway, isn't (P)Young and (P)BackHo both better than (P)Spear?

Source: Wfbrood
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
March 02 2009 15:04 GMT
#2
OGN and MBC are truly becoming farm teams.

BackHo is miles better than most Protoss really, only the six dragons are clearly better then he is.
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
March 02 2009 15:14 GMT
#3
they should recruit guemchi so that JD and him can crush bisu easily
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-02 15:18:17
March 02 2009 15:17 GMT
#4
The only thing I remember about Spear is that he looks like Best, or at least used to.I can also remember watching his fpvod on python, and thats it ~
Hopefully he will get better @ OZ.
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
March 02 2009 15:19 GMT
#5
What happent to BackHO is he not playing enymore ?
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7012 Posts
March 02 2009 15:22 GMT
#6
On March 03 2009 00:19 raga4ka wrote:
What happent to BackHO is he not playing enymore ?

Had to be in hospital for about a month because of back problems (heh..), such a long time and no practice probably dropped his skill a lot. Such a bad timing as he was just starting to do extremely well in invidual leagues and also was a very nice players for the team.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
March 02 2009 15:27 GMT
#7
On March 02 2009 23:50 zincsterio wrote:
(P)Spear[Shield] has been transferred to Hwaseung Oz from OGN. Oz felt that this would strengthen their Protoss lineup.

In my opinion, Hwaseung's Protoss lineup must suck a lot to have to import (P)Spear, whose only notable achievement is knocking (Z)sAviOr out of the MSL a couple of seasons ago. Anyway, isn't (P)Young and (P)BackHo both better than (P)Spear?

Source: Wfbrood

Yeah, what the fuck?
Spear hasn't even played a TV game since December, and when he did he had horrible PvP/PvT, and mediocre PvZ (I guess?).
Entusman #12
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 02 2009 15:30 GMT
#8
i expect him to perform as good as shine in ktf ..
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
March 02 2009 15:37 GMT
#9
I don't even know who Spear is.
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littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-02 15:39:28
March 02 2009 15:39 GMT
#10
On March 03 2009 00:30 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
i expect him to perform as good as shine in ktf ..

Yeah
I have some inside information, the next player trade is gonna be (Z)Clay going to SKT1
Entusman #12
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 02 2009 16:06 GMT
#11
On March 03 2009 00:39 littlechava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2009 00:30 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
i expect him to perform as good as shine in ktf ..

Yeah
I have some inside information, the next player trade is gonna be (Z)Clay going to SKT1

I really hope that's true, SKT keeping up with their tradition of strong Zergs.

Spear is only going to make Hwaseung's Protoss lineup weaker, though. What's with these weird player trades that make no sense. Let's get a Protoss, which team should we look at? OGN, of course, duh.
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littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
March 02 2009 16:12 GMT
#12
It's gotta be bad for the team morale. All the players who don't get put in WL lineups regularly are probably wondering when they're going to get passed to another team now.
Entusman #12
hazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom570 Posts
March 02 2009 16:15 GMT
#13
well it makes sense to recruit a protoss for Hwaseung, I mean look at their roster they have 5 protoss in total and only 2 of them have ever appeared on TV

i mean for terran they have (T)Lomo, (T)fOrGG and (T)HiyA who are all good players that deliver in proleague
for zerg they have.. (Z)Jaedong, who team carries in proleague
for protoss they have (P)Young, and now (P)BackHo is back (but hes probably out of shape) so really that only leaves young for now, it makes sense to recruit someone
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 02 2009 16:15 GMT
#14
One less protoss for (P)Chalrenge to compete with for playing time in PL. OGN should trade away (P)Tazza and (P)Horang2 now so I can see Lee Seung Hoon pimp it up every week!
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7012 Posts
March 02 2009 16:23 GMT
#15
On March 03 2009 01:06 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2009 00:39 littlechava wrote:
On March 03 2009 00:30 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
i expect him to perform as good as shine in ktf ..

Yeah
I have some inside information, the next player trade is gonna be (Z)Clay going to SKT1

I really hope that's true, SKT keeping up with their tradition of strong Zergs.

Spear is only going to make Hwaseung's Protoss lineup weaker, though. What's with these weird player trades that make no sense. Let's get a Protoss, which team should we look at? OGN, of course, duh.

For a very little money they're hoping for a small chance of him becoming something, remember even Flash was bought like this from WeMade before becoming a huge star.

They need a protoss and for some reason don't want to buy an already established superstar they really have no other ways of acquiring one but taking a cheap offer from another team or scouting up and coming amateurs and its far easier to buy from another team.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
March 02 2009 16:24 GMT
#16
Why is anyone bothered about Hwaseung buying a talented, yet unproven Protoss? It's not only Stars that should be exchanged, and they definitely need a solid Protoss. Spear isn't that Protoss yet but buying an established one out of his contract would be way more expensive.
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EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
March 02 2009 16:28 GMT
#17
What a silly move. If you're going to buy a Protoss, buy a dragon or don't buy anything at all, Oz.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 02 2009 17:01 GMT
#18
On March 03 2009 01:28 EvoChamber wrote:
What a silly move. If you're going to buy a Protoss, buy a dragon or don't buy anything at all, Oz.

The dragons aren't going to go anywhere, unless it's for a stupid amount of money, so OZ has to look somewhere for Protoss talent. If I was OZ I would have been trying to get a player like Horang or Tazza instead of Spear, but I'm sure OGN holds them at much higher esteem than Spear and wants to keep them around.

Only other option would have been to try out some of STX's second string protoss players like SoO or YoonJoong, but I don't know how open STX is to transferring out their talent.
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7012 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-02 17:12:37
March 02 2009 17:05 GMT
#19
On March 03 2009 01:28 EvoChamber wrote:
What a silly move. If you're going to buy a Protoss, buy a dragon or don't buy anything at all, Oz.

Buying a player that qualifies as a 'dragon' would cost a small fortune right now, especially because they already have binding contracts and can't just hop in to another team because of better salary, you have to pay the team quite a big amount of money to be able to transfer a player.

When you think about the current situation of these top protoss players, most of them are from teams that if they'd lose the player they would be helpless, for example Woongjin and STX heavily rely on their protoss player and really it'd hurt them so much to lose those players.

The only 'dragon' I can think of being possible for the team to give out is Best, but the team is T1 and with such a big sponsor they probably aren't exactly looking to selling out their players for money, maybe they could trade him away for a zerg though? That'd be awesome, just that OZ really has no other zergs to give out but Jaedong and that would be just silly.

The reason they took Spear is probably just because he was offered when Hwaseung contacted the other teams, its not that common that talented players (results or not) are offered to be sold, so when the situation is bad they just have to take what they can.
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-02 17:20:31
March 02 2009 17:18 GMT
#20
On March 03 2009 02:05 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2009 01:28 EvoChamber wrote:
What a silly move. If you're going to buy a Protoss, buy a dragon or don't buy anything at all, Oz.

Buying a player that qualifies as a 'dragon' would cost a small fortune right now, especially because they already have binding contracts and can't just hop in to another team because of better salary, you have to pay the team quite a big amount of money to be able to transfer a player.

When you think about the current situation of these top protoss players, most of them are from teams that if they'd lose the player they would be helpless, for example Woongjin and STX heavily rely on their protoss player and really it'd hurt them so much to lose those players.

The only 'dragon' I can think of being possible for the team to give out is Best, but the team is T1 and with such a big sponsor they probably aren't exactly looking to selling out their players for money, maybe they could trade him away for a zerg though? That'd be awesome, just that OZ really has no other zergs to give out but Jaedong and that would be just silly.

The reason they took Spear is probably just because he was offered when Hwaseung contacted the other teams, its not that common that talented players (results or not) are offered to be sold, so when the situation is bad they just have to take what they can.

Jaedong to SKT1 would be crazy.
Just imagine it, SKT which doesn`t have any weakness other than no strong zergs.
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