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xJacky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
China375 Posts
February 26 2009 00:17 GMT
#41
how do you edit this? with what program?
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 26 2009 00:19 GMT
#42
On February 26 2009 09:02 Hittegods wrote:
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On February 26 2009 05:32 Centric wrote:
On February 26 2009 05:08 lammybammy wrote:
can u maybe add a tool that reveals whole map? id like to use such thing to learn timing attacks properly, thanks in advance.

You might want to try Oblivion. I heard it has similar features.

That just went waaay over your head, didn't it?

Or yours...? :/
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
February 26 2009 00:20 GMT
#43
On February 26 2009 09:17 xJacky wrote:
how do you edit this? with what program?

notepad
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
February 26 2009 00:34 GMT
#44
On February 26 2009 09:13 blabber wrote:
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On February 26 2009 08:22 PH wrote:
I don't see what's wrong with this as a trainer to help you get better...

Granted, if you run it in an actual competitive game (in a tourney or something), there'd be problems...but as long as you're just practicing, there's nothing wrong with it.

The fact that you CAN use it in a competitive games makes it bad. One solution to this is to somehow display a message to your opponent (and visible in the replay) that you are using it. I don't know if something like that has been implemented already


well, I'm sure (not sure, becuase I haven't figured out how to write scripts for it yet), but it's possible that you could have it use the chat function to put allied chat only that it's on. That would store it in the replay.

The fact that iccup admins can detect it though means that it's not *that* big of a deal- the competitive ladder will be just fine. Since Iccup can detect it, it's a training tool- nothing more, nothing less. They'll probably toss it into their antihack launcher, so that you can't play games with this on as well as ah on.
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
February 26 2009 00:39 GMT
#45
of course this is a hack that gives an unfair advantage.
Also I don't see how anyone gets better if they don't learn to check psi-count or mineralcount by theirselves.
I hope this hack tells your opponent that its on.. and in the very beginning of the game before the hacker switches "to all" off..
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 26 2009 00:49 GMT
#46
On February 26 2009 08:19 -orb- wrote:
Oh hey cool

Hey MoC, can I make a request?

I would REALLY REALLY like an addition to help with color blindness. If you had an option set that would change what shift>tab sets colors to, so that I can manually choose what color I show up as and what color my opponent shows up as, that would help me so much.

Of course this would only help if it is something that's possible to be used on iccup.

You can modify the colors by changing the player colors with SCMDraft 2.0 and saving the map as .scx

I made shift tabx2 for myself to be green instead of ugly ass teal.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
February 26 2009 00:51 GMT
#47
On February 26 2009 09:39 Piste wrote:
of course this is a hack that gives an unfair advantage.
Also I don't see how anyone gets better if they don't learn to check psi-count or mineralcount by theirselves.


Having very similar thoughts. This surely is helpful, but I think it could have an opposite effect. Once this tool is on you dont have to think about minerals/supply and without being forced to focus on it you won't create a habbit of doing so. Makes sense?
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
February 26 2009 00:56 GMT
#48
On February 26 2009 09:49 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2009 08:19 -orb- wrote:
Oh hey cool

Hey MoC, can I make a request?

I would REALLY REALLY like an addition to help with color blindness. If you had an option set that would change what shift>tab sets colors to, so that I can manually choose what color I show up as and what color my opponent shows up as, that would help me so much.

Of course this would only help if it is something that's possible to be used on iccup.

You can modify the colors by changing the player colors with SCMDraft 2.0 and saving the map as .scx

I made shift tabx2 for myself to be green instead of ugly ass teal.


Cool, but this is only for that map, yes? So if I play on iccup on someone else's map (since i can't host I always have to) the colors will go back to normal?
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 26 2009 01:00 GMT
#49
Yes I know that it gives you a slight advantage, but it is only relevant on the lowest ranks. Icc has been told how to detect it, so I advise against using it there.
http://winner.cspsx.de/Starcraft/Tool/Chaoscoach.zip

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cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
February 26 2009 01:00 GMT
#50
Oh my God!

So how do you get out of the habit of using it then?
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
February 26 2009 01:01 GMT
#51
On February 26 2009 09:39 Piste wrote:
of course this is a hack that gives an unfair advantage.
Also I don't see how anyone gets better if they don't learn to check psi-count or mineralcount by theirselves.
I hope this hack tells your opponent that its on.. and in the very beginning of the game before the hacker switches "to all" off..

If you don't like it, don't use it.
And (going along with your thought process here, not necessarily agreeing) so what if it is a hack? ICC has been notified of how to detect it, there is a disclaimer not to use on ICC (and implies any type of competitive match), and was created with the intention of not using it later on (I'm sure B level players don't actively use the live APM tool).
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cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
February 26 2009 01:03 GMT
#52
but I don't want to learn another scripting Language
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
February 26 2009 01:07 GMT
#53
Well contrary to nomal hacks, this let's you improve your game skills. So yeah, obviously you won't use it in a tourney but it can be really nice as a tool to get you better.
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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
February 26 2009 01:23 GMT
#54
On February 26 2009 09:51 [GMTA]_HumBug wrote:
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On February 26 2009 09:39 Piste wrote:
of course this is a hack that gives an unfair advantage.
Also I don't see how anyone gets better if they don't learn to check psi-count or mineralcount by theirselves.


Having very similar thoughts. This surely is helpful, but I think it could have an opposite effect. Once this tool is on you dont have to think about minerals/supply and without being forced to focus on it you won't create a habbit of doing so. Makes sense?

I disagree. It's like setting an alarm every day for a week to go off at 5am. If you turn it off on the 8th day you'll still probably wake up because your body is used to the timing. I think this has the potential to be a good macro training tool if people use it the right way.
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
February 26 2009 01:40 GMT
#55
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ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
February 26 2009 02:33 GMT
#56
On February 26 2009 08:54 Kerotan wrote:
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On February 26 2009 08:32 ramen247 wrote:
the freaking sounds are so annoying lfmao...

and early game as terran i dont make supply until 9 and it makes a noise telling me to make a supply anyway. i am not using this.


Well congratulations on not using it, here I think I big reward is in the offing for someone that turns down graciously provided tools and fails to read the OP, and then bitches about being nagged by sounds which is exactly their intended purpose, to nag you into playing better. Well done good sir, I commend you.


lol? it was just a review on the pros and cons...
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-26 03:00:58
February 26 2009 02:37 GMT
#57
Imma give this a whirl...

Edit: urg, I haven't used chaoslauncher in a while and I'm getting two error messages (translated from swedish):

"The program couldn't be started because lualib5.dll could not be found""

and

"could not load plugin
'G:\spel\starcraft\chaoslauncher\chaoscoach\chaoscoach.bwl'
cannot find the module"

Edit2: I run vista on a dell laptop.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
February 26 2009 02:59 GMT
#58
On February 26 2009 11:37 Osmoses wrote:
Imma give this a whirl...

Edit: urg, I haven't used chaoslauncher in a while and I'm getting two error messages (translated from swedish):

"The program couldn't be started because lualib5.dll could not be found""

and

"could not load plugin
'G:\spel\starcraft\chaoslauncher\chaoscoach\chaoscoach.bwl'
cannot find the module"

Those are basically the same error (the first error causes the second to occur). Make sure you've extracted all the files in the zip file, because lualib5.dll is included (and therefore should be found by the plugin).
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
February 26 2009 03:02 GMT
#59
I just downloaded the latest chaoslauncher and there was no lualib5.dll in there. I'm gonna try an earlier version...
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
February 26 2009 03:05 GMT
#60
Its included in the package in the OP (Chaoscoach.zip), not in the ChaosLauncher package
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