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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-07 17:30:23
November 06 2008 08:13 GMT
#1
Yesterday a small OGN show called "스타뒷담화" had a special of Stork's OSL performance. It consisted of the OSL curse, Yellow 2.0, what went in Stork's mind and iloveoov. It said ALOT of things about games 1-5 and in general. I tried to get the VOD but failed, so I decided to translate the important parts.

So! You're officially out of Yellow's Line, how does it make you feel
It was so awkward actually. I didn't know what to do when I won.

You broke Kim Carrier's curse, which has been active since Kim Carrier was commentating OSL (following victims include Jaedong, Boxer, Anytime, Flash, Xellos, Yellow, and the Maestro), thats such a big accomplishment
Yes, I honestly thought I would drop at the RO8. It was so refreshing. I honestly thought I would never make it back to the finals.
note: Kim Carrier curse is the 2nd strongest curse known in Korea, where whenever the commentator Kim Tae Kyung chooses the next victor for the OSL, they fail miserably.

Flash, Anytime and iloveoov made records that cannot be broken, however you made another record. You finally got an OSL title after 9 OSL qualifications. How does it make you feel?
I heard I broke GGplay's record of 5 OSL qualifications before the title, so I guess Im a little happy. I don't think this record will ever be broken :D

What made you so much stronger in this league than the previous leagues?
The losses from Jaedong and Flash helped so much, however the biggest inspiration came from last OSL with July. When I saw July play, I was so jealous. How can someone make his opponents tremble in fear like that? How can someone who isn't at his prime like he used to be so good at mindgames? I had to learn because Flash and Jaedong taught me mindgames is what wins leagues, not how perfect your plays are.

So, were you crying or was it because the champagne got in your eyes?
I actually started crying since the last storm happened. I couldn't believe it myself. When I finally won, as I proceeded to get out of my booth to hug my coach and parents TT and Jangbi shot champagne into my eyes. It hurt so much

Yeah your final performance was very exciting, one of the most exciting one I've seen in years
Honestly, at game 2, I thought to myself "Damn I can't win a 3:0, thats so lame." I might sound cocky at that statement, but when I saw the walls of Anytime holding up his trophy against Boxer, I really wanted something epic like the Boxer/Anytime finals. Also the Boxer/Anytime finals was what really motivated me to become a better Progamer.

You didn't go carriers... Did you do that on purpose?
I actually wanted to use carriers so badly. I really wanted to end game 3 and 5 with carriers but Fantasy denied me both games. At game 3, I didn't expect vulture/dropships, and on game 5, Fantasy kept destroying my probes with his vultures so I had to resort to arbiters.

Your reavers... Well they were terrible compared to BeSt's game
I heard from other progamers, intotherainbow practiced against fantasy almost everyday using reavers only. I don't think my reavers were bad, just that Fantasy was so good blocking it.

Haha yeah, it seems like BeSt practiced using un-ending units build and Bisu used darktemplars only to help Fantasy prepare
Yeah I could tell because his defenses were amazing. But There was one player Fantasy didn't practice with. If fantasy practiced with this player, Fantasy would've won the OSL

Oh? Who was that?
(P)Much :D

Come to think of it... Game 1 build was what much used
Yes, Much kept teaching me all these builds that worked so well. And I told him NOT to practice with Fantasy

Haha makes sense.
Hehe thank you Much for your builds!

At the OSL opening ceremony, you said you didn't want to win this OSL, rather you wanted to show your fans a great game
Yeah, I really didn't think about winning. Which makes me think of what iloveoov once said
"When I was on my dominant streak, I have never thought myself as the best player, nor did I think I would win any leagues. Maybe thats because I won!


Seems like iloveoov was your inspiration, rival and goal at the same time
Yeah ever since the frictions between our teams and when Samsung was doing bad, our whole team's goal was "to be better than T1"

At game 4, what was going through your mind
So many things, but mostly stuff like "Maybe I am the next Yellow...", "Kim Carrier's curse is working...", "How am I going to face my parents! I'm such a failure!"

Oh wow, but at game 5 you showed such an amazing play
Yeah, but there was a reason for this. For the first time in my finals, my coach and teammates actually came to me at the end of game 4, and told me alot of stuff. They helped me so much!

I remember the first time you came onto our show, you told us you ate 8 servings of steak by yourself
Yes I did.

It must've been such a great day for Samsung
It was. Although I do feel bad for Jangbi. His game was on the same day as my finals, but everyone was taking care of me more. When our assistant coach was sent with Jangbi, Jangbi said "WHY WONT YOU GUYS TAKE CARE OF ME "

Haha Jangbi is so silly, his league is at RO8 and yours was the final!
Hehe its okay he won anyways.

So, here comes the real big question, the OSL curse
Yes it seems like I have one more obstacle to cross before celebrating

The OSL curse has a larger affect on people when they win their title "dramatically"
Yes I know ;;

There was one player who won the title just as dramatically as you, who just started showing progressing performance after the largest OSL curse slump
Yes, you mean Savior?

Poor savior, we really thought he might retire
Yes it was a big slump. But I am confident I can break through the curse because I won so many silvers.

Haha I really hope so
By the way, how can I break the OSL curse

Well, you have to get ATLEAST RO8. WOuld be better if you hit semifinals, but thats pushing it
Oh. Well I think I can do that easily.

Well anything else you want to say before leaving?
I will win 2 titles in a row and show everyone what a dominant protoss can do

------------------------------------------------------------------
UPDATE
edit: I can't believe I forgot to put this segment on this interview, this was the most important one imo

So during game 5 what would've happen if Fantasy would've built the refinery before you could gas steal?
That couldn't of happen

Oh? Explain please hehe
In Chup Pyong Ryung, terran players watch probe movements very carefully. I set the probe movement so Fantasy sees my probe but at the same time makes him think I did a proxy gate. That is why Fantasy built the rax first because he was scared I went proxy gate, therefore he would have no minerals to build the refinery.

I see, thats why you did a gas steal so easily?
Correct, it would be economically impossible for him to build a rax and gas at that moment.

Your thoughts after the tank kill?
I was exhilarated. Because of the gas steal I knew taking his tank out would be a great blow at Fantasy's mind.

During that game your templars came out really late
This was probably not recorded on the screen, but Fantasy sniped almost every templar I made.

Ahh that makes alot of sense because we were suprised to see the templars inside the shuttle
Yes I had to hide them in there or fantasy would've continued to kill them

Did you really not know about the 9 oclock expansion?
No! I was so shocked to learn about it. I still get chills when I think of the possibility of what would've happened if I lost that last battle.

Your final game really showed everything what a Protoss v Terran can offer (except carriers). It reminded us of iloveoov's hidden expo sense, boxer's vulture play, Reach's templar and Anytime's movement. Thank you for your time Stork
------------------------------

EXTRA INFO REGARDING iloveoov's MECH BUILD
This is the conversation between boxer and iloveoov, before fantasy did this build.



Translations, thanks for fix by fw and for the video

oov: Hyung I made this new build
BoXer: It must be shitty
oov: No seriously! This is the real deal
BoXer: Oh?
oov: This has a 100% winchance against zerg
BoXer: On troy?
oov: No, on all maps
BoXer: Okay tell me
oov: I can't
BoXer: Some apprentice you are haha
oov: Top secret, Im not aloud to talk about it
BoXer: Ooo
oov: (to kingdom) did you ever seen me lose (with that build)?
kingdom: (to boxer) hahahaha.. he never lost to me.
kingdom: against MY ZERG lol.
oov: It is the equivalent to Bisu's DT/Corsair build. Its better than 14cc
BoXer: Hmm, when can I see it
oov: Soon.
BoXer: I will wait on it

After fantasy/ggplay game
oov: Well?
BoXer: Its good.


-------------------------------


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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 06 2008 08:21 GMT
#2
good stuff, thanks a lot for translating!
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
November 06 2008 08:22 GMT
#3
Awesome translation, thank you! I love Much <3
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10639 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-06 08:24:04
November 06 2008 08:23 GMT
#4
Yeah your final performance was very exciting, one of the most exciting one I've seen in years
Honestly, at game 2, I thought to myself "Damn I can't win a 3:0, thats so lame." I might sound cocky at that statement, but when I saw the walls of Anytime holding up his trophy against Boxer, I really wanted something epic like the Boxer/Anytime finals. Also the Boxer/Anytime finals was what really motivated me to become a better Progamer.


Wow, that would insult me for real ^^.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
November 06 2008 08:23 GMT
#5
=) TY very much.

I feel the love for Much, what a hero.
Stork is shining with confidence.
The Protoss King ~_~
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
strongwind
Profile Joined July 2007
United States862 Posts
November 06 2008 08:26 GMT
#6
wow thanks MrHoon, awesome translation!

I really love hearing all of the different practice partners and strategies going on behind the scenes; I wonder if there is some reasoning to how players pair up for practice among different teams? Is it just based on friendship, or is there some method to the madness?

Stork: "Dude I just got to the finals. Can I uh...borrow one of your builds? I promise I'll pay you back later. Oh, and don't play with that fantasy guy, he smells."

Much: "You got it dinotoss."

I also love stork's comments on mind games over perfect plays. Staying assertive and unpredictable is the way to go!
Taek Bang Fighting!
Fish_Baguettes
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia589 Posts
November 06 2008 08:26 GMT
#7
Wow, Fantasy had sick practice partners; practically trained against everything. Nice read, thanks!
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
November 06 2008 08:27 GMT
#8
tyty

"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
November 06 2008 08:28 GMT
#9
Damn Much is like the superman of training partners, I can't believe how much credit Stork is giving him for his win haha.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 06 2008 08:35 GMT
#10
On November 06 2008 17:13 MrHoon wrote:
What made you so much stronger in this league than the previous leagues?
The losses from Jaedong and Flash helped so much, however the biggest inspiration came from last OSL with July. When I saw July play, I was so jealous. How can someone make his opponents tremble in fear like that? How can someone who isn't at his prime like he used to be so good at mindgames? I had to learn because Flash and Jaedong taught me mindgames is what wins leagues, not how perfect your plays are.


Glad he found that out. Stork's mechanics + creativeness makes him unbeatable.


You didn't go carriers... Did you do that on purpose?
I actually wanted to use carriers so badly. I really wanted to end game 3 and 5 with carriers but Fantasy denied me both games. At game 3, I didn't expect vulture/dropships, and on game 5, Fantasy kept destroying my probes with his vultures so I had to resort to arbiters.


LOL and Stork and his fetish for carriers.


Oh? Who was that?
(P)Much :D

Come to think of it... Game 1 build was what much used
Yes, Much kept teaching me all these builds that worked so well. And I told him NOT to practice with Fantasy

Haha makes sense.
Hehe thank you Much for your builds!


Weird relationship between CJ and Samsung. Much and Stork like each other. FBH and Iris like each other.

FBH and Savior... okay, not so much.
Meh
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 06 2008 08:38 GMT
#11
On November 06 2008 17:35 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2008 17:13 MrHoon wrote:
What made you so much stronger in this league than the previous leagues?
The losses from Jaedong and Flash helped so much, however the biggest inspiration came from last OSL with July. When I saw July play, I was so jealous. How can someone make his opponents tremble in fear like that? How can someone who isn't at his prime like he used to be so good at mindgames? I had to learn because Flash and Jaedong taught me mindgames is what wins leagues, not how perfect your plays are.


Glad he found that out. Stork's mechanics + creativeness makes him unbeatable.

Show nested quote +

You didn't go carriers... Did you do that on purpose?
I actually wanted to use carriers so badly. I really wanted to end game 3 and 5 with carriers but Fantasy denied me both games. At game 3, I didn't expect vulture/dropships, and on game 5, Fantasy kept destroying my probes with his vultures so I had to resort to arbiters.


LOL and Stork and his fetish for carriers.

Show nested quote +

Oh? Who was that?
(P)Much :D

Come to think of it... Game 1 build was what much used
Yes, Much kept teaching me all these builds that worked so well. And I told him NOT to practice with Fantasy

Haha makes sense.
Hehe thank you Much for your builds!


Weird relationship between CJ and Samsung. Much and Stork like each other. FBH and Iris like each other.

FBH and Savior... okay, not so much.


I think it was just the fact so many protoss players wanted a protoss to win the OSL. And Much, well, everyone loves much.
dats racist
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
November 06 2008 08:39 GMT
#12
On November 06 2008 17:13 MrHoon wrote:
I remember the first time you came onto our show, you told us you ate 8 servings of steak by yourself
Yes I did.


dinotoss in action :D
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
November 06 2008 08:43 GMT
#13
Lol it's so great to hear Stork actually confess his thoughts after game 4, but it's even better to see him overcome himself. Truly a final to remember.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
November 06 2008 08:46 GMT
#14
Why does it seem as if SKT1 doesn't really have many partnering teams that are willing to help them practice ^_~
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 06 2008 08:47 GMT
#15
On November 06 2008 17:38 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2008 17:35 baubo wrote:
On November 06 2008 17:13 MrHoon wrote:
What made you so much stronger in this league than the previous leagues?
The losses from Jaedong and Flash helped so much, however the biggest inspiration came from last OSL with July. When I saw July play, I was so jealous. How can someone make his opponents tremble in fear like that? How can someone who isn't at his prime like he used to be so good at mindgames? I had to learn because Flash and Jaedong taught me mindgames is what wins leagues, not how perfect your plays are.


Glad he found that out. Stork's mechanics + creativeness makes him unbeatable.


You didn't go carriers... Did you do that on purpose?
I actually wanted to use carriers so badly. I really wanted to end game 3 and 5 with carriers but Fantasy denied me both games. At game 3, I didn't expect vulture/dropships, and on game 5, Fantasy kept destroying my probes with his vultures so I had to resort to arbiters.


LOL and Stork and his fetish for carriers.


Oh? Who was that?
(P)Much :D

Come to think of it... Game 1 build was what much used
Yes, Much kept teaching me all these builds that worked so well. And I told him NOT to practice with Fantasy

Haha makes sense.
Hehe thank you Much for your builds!


Weird relationship between CJ and Samsung. Much and Stork like each other. FBH and Iris like each other.

FBH and Savior... okay, not so much.


I think it was just the fact so many protoss players wanted a protoss to win the OSL. And Much, well, everyone loves much.


Much also helped Stork with strategies against Best. The guy has a great mind. It's just that his mechanics isn't good enough to carry out these strategies against top level players. Maybe he just wants to use Stork to carry out his whacky builds.
Meh
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
November 06 2008 08:50 GMT
#16
Honestly, at game 2, I thought to myself "Damn I can't win a 3:0, thats so lame." I might sound cocky at that statement, but when I saw the walls of Anytime holding up his trophy against Boxer, I really wanted something epic like the Boxer/Anytime finals. Also the Boxer/Anytime finals was what really motivated me to become a better Progamer.

wow, real reason why stork lost game 3
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
November 06 2008 08:51 GMT
#17
yay stork
IRIS FIGHTING!!!
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 06 2008 08:54 GMT
#18
On November 06 2008 17:50 Elvin_vn wrote:
Show nested quote +
Honestly, at game 2, I thought to myself "Damn I can't win a 3:0, thats so lame." I might sound cocky at that statement, but when I saw the walls of Anytime holding up his trophy against Boxer, I really wanted something epic like the Boxer/Anytime finals. Also the Boxer/Anytime finals was what really motivated me to become a better Progamer.

wow, real reason why stork lost game 3

seems like my translating is pretty terrible but let me rephrase this

Stork did not lose games 3 and 4 on purpose. He lost them because he simply got outplayed
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
November 06 2008 08:54 GMT
#19
Great interview. Thanks.

And Fantasy practicing with Rainbow makes complete sense. No wonder his anti-reaver defense was so flawless.
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
November 06 2008 08:54 GMT
#20
Stork is awesome, Stork fighting!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Play
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia608 Posts
November 06 2008 08:56 GMT
#21
On November 06 2008 17:13 MrHoon wrote:
TT and Jangbi shot champagne into my eyes. It hurt so much


awww...my favourite bit
jmascis
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 06 2008 09:45 GMT
#22
thanks
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
November 06 2008 09:58 GMT
#23
I love the shoutout to granpatoss!

Also:
After fantasy/ggplay game
oov: Well?
BoXer: Its good.

Hilarious!
5sz6sz7sz1a2a3a4a kwanrollllllled
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
November 06 2008 10:35 GMT
#24
thanks for translating
You can't fight the feeling.
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
November 06 2008 10:59 GMT
#25
ahahahah, grandpa toss sharing his wisdom with the youngin'

Thanks for the translations.
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
fw *
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)1201 Posts
November 06 2008 13:01 GMT
#26
Good Job, MrHoon.


Yesterday a small OGN show called "스타뒷담화" had a special of Stork's OSL performance. It consisted of the OSL curse, Yellow 2.0, what went in Stork's mind and iloveoov. It said ALOT of things about games 1-5 and in general. I tried to get the VOD but failed, so I decided to translate the important parts.

if you want VOD for the complete translations, I can help you. just let me know.
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
November 06 2008 13:49 GMT
#27
On November 06 2008 17:47 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2008 17:38 MrHoon wrote:
On November 06 2008 17:35 baubo wrote:
On November 06 2008 17:13 MrHoon wrote:
What made you so much stronger in this league than the previous leagues?
The losses from Jaedong and Flash helped so much, however the biggest inspiration came from last OSL with July. When I saw July play, I was so jealous. How can someone make his opponents tremble in fear like that? How can someone who isn't at his prime like he used to be so good at mindgames? I had to learn because Flash and Jaedong taught me mindgames is what wins leagues, not how perfect your plays are.


Glad he found that out. Stork's mechanics + creativeness makes him unbeatable.


You didn't go carriers... Did you do that on purpose?
I actually wanted to use carriers so badly. I really wanted to end game 3 and 5 with carriers but Fantasy denied me both games. At game 3, I didn't expect vulture/dropships, and on game 5, Fantasy kept destroying my probes with his vultures so I had to resort to arbiters.


LOL and Stork and his fetish for carriers.


Oh? Who was that?
(P)Much :D

Come to think of it... Game 1 build was what much used
Yes, Much kept teaching me all these builds that worked so well. And I told him NOT to practice with Fantasy

Haha makes sense.
Hehe thank you Much for your builds!


Weird relationship between CJ and Samsung. Much and Stork like each other. FBH and Iris like each other.

FBH and Savior... okay, not so much.


I think it was just the fact so many protoss players wanted a protoss to win the OSL. And Much, well, everyone loves much.


Much also helped Stork with strategies against Best. The guy has a great mind. It's just that his mechanics isn't good enough to carry out these strategies against top level players. Maybe he just wants to use Stork to carry out his whacky builds.


Dude, GranpaToss is like 200 years old and his arthritis it's starting to take it's toll. He must pass on his knowledge before his time is over(Much is going to be such an amazing protoss coach for CJ...).

Btw, by recent commentaries by some players, The Maestro says that T1 Terrans suck at mechanic play(at least compared to CJ ones), all the help of the ever famous T1 Protoss lineup(Bisu & BeSt, with Rainbow as a sidedish) was no match against the strategic mind of GrandpaToss, the whole team is landcrashing in PL....

I like T1, but KTF fans and any fan who dislikes T1 must be enjoying this
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 06 2008 15:42 GMT
#28
On November 06 2008 22:01 fw wrote:
Good Job, MrHoon.

Show nested quote +

Yesterday a small OGN show called "스타뒷담화" had a special of Stork's OSL performance. It consisted of the OSL curse, Yellow 2.0, what went in Stork's mind and iloveoov. It said ALOT of things about games 1-5 and in general. I tried to get the VOD but failed, so I decided to translate the important parts.

if you want VOD for the complete translations, I can help you. just let me know.


Since I have no idea how to work Movie editing programs, I rather have the vod, translate what stork said and just send it to someone to edit it.

It would be great though, spread it to the community
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
November 06 2008 16:06 GMT
#29
this was awesome to read! thanks a lot!
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
November 06 2008 16:12 GMT
#30
<3 much, the poor guy deserves his own starleague.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
November 06 2008 17:05 GMT
#31
Thx so much for translation, I admire Stork even more after this interview.
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Substandard
Profile Joined October 2008
Italy270 Posts
November 06 2008 17:28 GMT
#32
It's amazing how everybody loves much. The guy must be pure ownage irl.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
November 06 2008 17:46 GMT
#33
I love the Boxer/Oov convo. Stork seems like a cool guy I guess, he can have some more of my respect after this.
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
November 06 2008 17:48 GMT
#34
On November 07 2008 02:28 Substandard wrote:
It's amazing how everybody loves much. The guy must be pure ownage irl.



It's because he has reeeally broad shoulders. >
May the BeSt man win.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
November 06 2008 17:53 GMT
#35
Lol at much, Too bad Fantasy didn't practice against proxy builds. -_-.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 06 2008 18:06 GMT
#36
Thanks a lot for this translation, very nice interview.
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11270 Posts
November 06 2008 18:06 GMT
#37
I am waiting for the Yoda / Luke impressions of Much and Stork. No seriously, this makes me love Much even more, as a modest and strong performer who is not shy about helping others. But of course it was Stork himself to put it into practice.
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 06 2008 18:27 GMT
#38
updated more Q&A, interesting stuff about game 5
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brjdrb
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States577 Posts
November 06 2008 18:46 GMT
#39
On November 06 2008 17:54 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2008 17:50 Elvin_vn wrote:
Honestly, at game 2, I thought to myself "Damn I can't win a 3:0, thats so lame." I might sound cocky at that statement, but when I saw the walls of Anytime holding up his trophy against Boxer, I really wanted something epic like the Boxer/Anytime finals. Also the Boxer/Anytime finals was what really motivated me to become a better Progamer.

wow, real reason why stork lost game 3

seems like my translating is pretty terrible but let me rephrase this

Stork did not lose games 3 and 4 on purpose. He lost them because he simply got outplayed

also sounds like he was thinking about things that he shouldn't have been. stork's gotta learn to keep his focus during the finals. lol
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
November 06 2008 18:52 GMT
#40
Haha, hilarious interview. Thanks~
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
November 06 2008 19:01 GMT
#41
On November 07 2008 03:27 MrHoon wrote:
updated more Q&A, interesting stuff about game 5


Best part of the interview indeed! Really interesting. I didn't notice Fantasy killed that many templars indeed. :o
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Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
November 06 2008 19:27 GMT
#42
nice update ! best part of the interview. Stork is stork, he's a beast but still he makes cute mistake like goon range and now letting opponent make hidden expo
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
November 06 2008 19:41 GMT
#43
Thanks MrHoon, this adds even more meaning to that series.

Honestly, at game 2, I thought to myself "Damn I can't win a 3:0, thats so lame."

At game 4, what was going through your mind
So many things, but mostly stuff like "Maybe I am the next Yellow...", "Kim Carrier's curse is working...", "How am I going to face my parents! I'm such a failure!"

Still worries me how neurotic he is; even when he's winning he psychs himself out, and when he loses his momentum, he looks like he'll crash and burn. =/

Seems like he only got himself back together when he was able to take complete control of the early game in game 5.
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traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-06 20:09:52
November 06 2008 20:09 GMT
#44
You broke Kim Carrier's curse, which has been active since Kim Carrier was commentating OSL (following victims include Jaedong, Boxer, Anytime, Flash, Xellos, Yellow, and the Maestro), thats such a big accomplishment
Yes, I honestly thought I would drop at the RO8. It was so refreshing. I honestly thought I would never make it back to the finals.
note: Kim Carrier curse is the 2nd strongest curse known in Korea, where whenever the commentator Kim Tae Kyung chooses the next victor for the OSL, they fail miserably.

interesting that he thought he'd lose to bisu, especially considering how cocky/confident stork sounds most of the time
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
November 06 2008 20:31 GMT
#45
Awesome, thanks a lot.

Rofl@Boxer/oov conversation
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Profile Joined June 2008
Slovakia191 Posts
November 06 2008 21:19 GMT
#46
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Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
November 06 2008 21:43 GMT
#47
On November 07 2008 05:31 -orb- wrote:
Awesome, thanks a lot.

Rofl@Boxer/oov conversation

The oov/boxer convo was real?

That seemed like a joke
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 06 2008 22:10 GMT
#48
Man...that he didn't know about the 9 o'clock expo in game 5 totally sends chills down MY spine too...

thx for the translation!!
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
November 06 2008 22:47 GMT
#49
This is INSANELY AWESOME. Is the Boxer-OOv conversation real, with kingdom included ^^?
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
November 06 2008 22:48 GMT
#50
On November 07 2008 06:43 lgdDante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2008 05:31 -orb- wrote:
Awesome, thanks a lot.

Rofl@Boxer/oov conversation

The oov/boxer convo was real?

That seemed like a joke


QFT! ahaha ^^
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TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
November 06 2008 23:07 GMT
#51
Wow, thanks MrHoon really good read. I like him a little now, even after his dismantling for SKT, the interview was entertaining and of course the Boxer/Oov convo, I'd love that to be real
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 06 2008 23:49 GMT
#52
Thanks so much for translation! So scary he didn't know about the expansion...
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
November 07 2008 00:01 GMT
#53
Much > iloveoov?
But why?
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14892 Posts
November 07 2008 00:01 GMT
#54
awesome translation
Narrator
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States868 Posts
November 07 2008 00:16 GMT
#55
Really great translating. I kind of like Stork a bit more after this. I still wanted Fantasy to win.

I also really liked the conversation at the end.

Thank you very much. :D
jac
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden115 Posts
November 07 2008 00:21 GMT
#56
Much[gm]
Stork[gm]/sbg[gm]

Makes sense.
xhuwin
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States476 Posts
November 07 2008 00:26 GMT
#57
On November 06 2008 17:13 MrHoon wrote:

EXTRA INFO REGARDING iloveoov's MECH BUILD
This is the conversation between boxer and iloveoov, before fantasy did this build.

oov: Hyung I made this new build
BoXer: It must be shitty
oov: No seriously! This is the real deal
BoXer: Oh?
oov: This has a 100% winchance against zerg
BoXer: On troy?
oov: No, on all maps
BoXer: Okay tell me
oov: I can't
BoXer: Some apprentice you are haha
oov: Top secret, Im not aloud to talk about it
BoXer: Ooo
Kingdom: Pfft I can beat that build playing zerg
oov: lolno
BoXer: Haha
oov: It is the equivalent to Bisu's DT/Corsair build. Its better than 14cc
BoXer: Hmm, when can I see it
oov: Soon.
BoXer: I will wait on it

After fantasy/ggplay game
oov: Well?
BoXer: Its good.


Hahahahaha that made my day.
xyn
Dalroti
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada70 Posts
November 07 2008 00:59 GMT
#58
On November 06 2008 17:23 SuperJongMan wrote:
=) TY very much.

I feel the love for Much, what a hero.
Stork is shining with confidence.
The Protoss King ~_~


Ahem its a Hierarch. He took Artanis' place
My great grand father was a magic penguin
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 07 2008 01:51 GMT
#59
On November 07 2008 04:41 SonuvBob wrote:
Thanks MrHoon, this adds even more meaning to that series.

Show nested quote +
Honestly, at game 2, I thought to myself "Damn I can't win a 3:0, thats so lame."

Show nested quote +
At game 4, what was going through your mind
So many things, but mostly stuff like "Maybe I am the next Yellow...", "Kim Carrier's curse is working...", "How am I going to face my parents! I'm such a failure!"

Still worries me how neurotic he is; even when he's winning he psychs himself out, and when he loses his momentum, he looks like he'll crash and burn. =/

Seems like he only got himself back together when he was able to take complete control of the early game in game 5.


Keep in mind that he is 20 years old. I think people generally forget that these "professionals" making six-figure salaries are very young. Nerves come into play even for 30 year olds in professional American sports(won't comment on soccer cause I hate the sport).
Meh
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
November 07 2008 02:16 GMT
#60
Thanks for the translation!
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
November 07 2008 02:25 GMT
#61
"It's better than 14cc" -wut?
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
November 07 2008 02:51 GMT
#62
LMAO funny interview i enjoyed it thoroughly.
soudo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
603 Posts
November 07 2008 04:05 GMT
#63
Yeah Much! I thought game 1 resembled that game when Much utterly destroyed FBH with his DT/Shuttle micro (this was the game right before the Pylon Heart game I think). I also enjoyed the oov/Boxer convo.

Great stuff OP!
MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
November 07 2008 04:14 GMT
#64
Haha, best thing I've read in a while. Thanks MrHoon!
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Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
November 07 2008 04:22 GMT
#65
lol at the boxer oov conversation. hahaha.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-07 05:36:23
November 07 2008 05:34 GMT
#66
On November 07 2008 11:25 Avidkeystamper wrote:
"It's better than 14cc" -wut?

14cc is still a better opener on the long game against zerg

And the Boxer Oov conversation was from another show called "ESC" where it literally shows a 30 second clip of progamers backstage.

edit: This is real, if someone just gets the VOD of the show ESC from the news highlight of Stork vs BeSt, the last segment of the show was the interview. Now if someone can just get me some vods...
dats racist
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 07 2008 06:03 GMT
#67
you ctaully invented that conversation between oov and boxer, right?
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EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
November 07 2008 06:29 GMT
#68
Great, great, great post. Thanks a bunch for this.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
November 07 2008 06:33 GMT
#69
On November 07 2008 15:03 Geo.Rion wrote:
you ctaully invented that conversation between oov and boxer, right?

Its real
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
November 07 2008 06:59 GMT
#70
On November 06 2008 17:56 p23s3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2008 17:13 MrHoon wrote:
TT and Jangbi shot champagne into my eyes. It hurt so much


awww...my favourite bit


hhahah me too

great interview
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-07 07:12:31
November 07 2008 07:12 GMT
#71
Boxer telling oov that his build was good. The Apprentice finally makes the master proud xD


Thanks so much for the translation. Really informative.
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soudo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
603 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-07 07:29:56
November 07 2008 07:29 GMT
#72
On November 07 2008 14:34 MrHoon wrote:
if someone just gets the VOD of the show ESC from the news highlight of Stork vs BeSt, the last segment of the show was the interview. Now if someone can just get me some vods...


On November 06 2008 22:01 fw wrote:
if you want VOD for the complete translations, I can help you. just let me know.


fw can help you Mr. Hoon!
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
November 07 2008 07:56 GMT
#73
haaaaaaaaa, such a good interview
there's so many parts i liked!!
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Retsukage
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1002 Posts
November 07 2008 08:39 GMT
#74
great interview, best interview I've seen on TL in a while thanks alot.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
November 07 2008 10:29 GMT
#75
Thanks! I really laughed!

Why do you say that everyone likes Much
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Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
November 07 2008 10:46 GMT
#76
very-very nice interview. Thank you for the translation <3 <3
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Domestica
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States411 Posts
November 07 2008 11:05 GMT
#77
thank you sooo much for that interview
you rule!
edzwoo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States469 Posts
November 07 2008 11:39 GMT
#78
On November 06 2008 17:13 MrHoon wrote:
I remember the first time you came onto our show, you told us you ate 8 servings of steak by yourself
Yes I did.


LOL, most random thing EVER.

The oov boxer conversation is pretty hilarious considering boxer used that build afterwards himself
hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
November 07 2008 11:49 GMT
#79
Oh, very nice read! 10x!
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fw *
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)1201 Posts
November 07 2008 11:50 GMT
#80
On November 07 2008 14:34 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2008 11:25 Avidkeystamper wrote:
"It's better than 14cc" -wut?

14cc is still a better opener on the long game against zerg

And the Boxer Oov conversation was from another show called "ESC" where it literally shows a 30 second clip of progamers backstage.

edit: This is real, if someone just gets the VOD of the show ESC from the news highlight of Stork vs BeSt, the last segment of the show was the interview. Now if someone can just get me some vods...


do you know aired date?

081031 / 081024 / 081017
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
November 07 2008 12:12 GMT
#81
On November 06 2008 17:35 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2008 17:13 MrHoon wrote:
What made you so much stronger in this league than the previous leagues?
The losses from Jaedong and Flash helped so much, however the biggest inspiration came from last OSL with July. When I saw July play, I was so jealous. How can someone make his opponents tremble in fear like that? How can someone who isn't at his prime like he used to be so good at mindgames? I had to learn because Flash and Jaedong taught me mindgames is what wins leagues, not how perfect your plays are.


Glad he found that out. Stork's mechanics + creativeness makes him unbeatable.

Show nested quote +

You didn't go carriers... Did you do that on purpose?
I actually wanted to use carriers so badly. I really wanted to end game 3 and 5 with carriers but Fantasy denied me both games. At game 3, I didn't expect vulture/dropships, and on game 5, Fantasy kept destroying my probes with his vultures so I had to resort to arbiters.


LOL and Stork and his fetish for carriers.

Show nested quote +

Oh? Who was that?
(P)Much :D

Come to think of it... Game 1 build was what much used
Yes, Much kept teaching me all these builds that worked so well. And I told him NOT to practice with Fantasy

Haha makes sense.
Hehe thank you Much for your builds!


Weird relationship between CJ and Samsung. Much and Stork like each other. FBH and Iris like each other.

FBH and Savior... okay, not so much.


Stork, Much and Savior are all in [gm] together, right? So they are friends.
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 07 2008 12:20 GMT
#82
On November 07 2008 20:50 fw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2008 14:34 MrHoon wrote:
On November 07 2008 11:25 Avidkeystamper wrote:
"It's better than 14cc" -wut?

14cc is still a better opener on the long game against zerg

And the Boxer Oov conversation was from another show called "ESC" where it literally shows a 30 second clip of progamers backstage.

edit: This is real, if someone just gets the VOD of the show ESC from the news highlight of Stork vs BeSt, the last segment of the show was the interview. Now if someone can just get me some vods...


do you know aired date?

081031 / 081024 / 081017

ahh.... Hmm all I know is that it was 1-2 week after BeSt Stork game
dats racist
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
November 07 2008 12:25 GMT
#83
How to become bloody impeccable vs reaver: Practice a hundred games against IntotheRainbOw and tell him to go reaver every time. Seriously.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
November 07 2008 12:42 GMT
#84
Maybe that's why those scarabs at game 4 looked so stupid, Fantasy managed to defend and dodge like he knew when those would explode.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10639 Posts
November 07 2008 13:20 GMT
#85
How to become bloody impeccable vs reaver: Practice a hundred games against IntotheRainbOw and tell him to go reaver every time. Seriously.


Why waste the time and thell him to go reaver? It's not like Intotherainbow knows any other high tier unit..
fw *
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)1201 Posts
November 07 2008 13:42 GMT
#86
On November 07 2008 21:20 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2008 20:50 fw wrote:
On November 07 2008 14:34 MrHoon wrote:
On November 07 2008 11:25 Avidkeystamper wrote:
"It's better than 14cc" -wut?

14cc is still a better opener on the long game against zerg

And the Boxer Oov conversation was from another show called "ESC" where it literally shows a 30 second clip of progamers backstage.

edit: This is real, if someone just gets the VOD of the show ESC from the news highlight of Stork vs BeSt, the last segment of the show was the interview. Now if someone can just get me some vods...


do you know aired date?

081031 / 081024 / 081017

ahh.... Hmm all I know is that it was 1-2 week after BeSt Stork game


ok i've found the right one. before i'll send it to you, i'd like to inform you.


oov: Top secret, Im not aloud to talk about it
BoXer: Ooo
Kingdom: Pfft I can beat that build playing zerg
oov: lolno
BoXer: Haha


kingdom's line is mistranslated.
oov: (to kingdom) did you ever seen me lose (with that build)?
kingdom: (to boxer) hahahaha.. he never lost to me.
kingdom: against MY ZERG lol.


MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 07 2008 14:23 GMT
#87
On November 07 2008 22:42 fw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2008 21:20 MrHoon wrote:
On November 07 2008 20:50 fw wrote:
On November 07 2008 14:34 MrHoon wrote:
On November 07 2008 11:25 Avidkeystamper wrote:
"It's better than 14cc" -wut?

14cc is still a better opener on the long game against zerg

And the Boxer Oov conversation was from another show called "ESC" where it literally shows a 30 second clip of progamers backstage.

edit: This is real, if someone just gets the VOD of the show ESC from the news highlight of Stork vs BeSt, the last segment of the show was the interview. Now if someone can just get me some vods...


do you know aired date?

081031 / 081024 / 081017

ahh.... Hmm all I know is that it was 1-2 week after BeSt Stork game


ok i've found the right one. before i'll send it to you, i'd like to inform you.

Show nested quote +

oov: Top secret, Im not aloud to talk about it
BoXer: Ooo
Kingdom: Pfft I can beat that build playing zerg
oov: lolno
BoXer: Haha


kingdom's line is mistranslated.
oov: (to kingdom) did you ever seen me lose (with that build)?
kingdom: (to boxer) hahahaha.. he never lost to me.
kingdom: against MY ZERG lol.



ahhh thanks fw I just saw a glimpse of that so its nice that you fix'd it for me :D

Well heres your proof everyone
dats racist
TaDa1.
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
655 Posts
November 07 2008 16:13 GMT
#88
love Much and Stork ^^
sos bomber stork savior fan ^ http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5160596/1/WXZ/achievements/category/4377898
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32271 Posts
November 07 2008 16:16 GMT
#89
loooooooooool

Great stuff.

Quite a relationshit CJ and Samsung have... Much helps Stork win OSL, FBH makes fun of savior, XellOs and Much make fun of FBH... ugh.
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SlickR12345
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Macedonia408 Posts
November 07 2008 16:17 GMT
#90
Nice interviews!
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-07 17:30:38
November 07 2008 17:24 GMT
#91
added Boxer/oov conversation for the non believers
credit to fw who sent me the video :D
dats racist
yrag89
Profile Joined July 2008
Malaysia315 Posts
November 07 2008 17:47 GMT
#92
Much......Dreamer..... gogo
secondly morrow is a korean pro who plays terran what the hell did you expect lol - charlie420247
hixhix
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1156 Posts
November 07 2008 20:28 GMT
#93
On November 07 2008 22:42 fw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2008 21:20 MrHoon wrote:
On November 07 2008 20:50 fw wrote:
On November 07 2008 14:34 MrHoon wrote:
On November 07 2008 11:25 Avidkeystamper wrote:
"It's better than 14cc" -wut?

14cc is still a better opener on the long game against zerg

And the Boxer Oov conversation was from another show called "ESC" where it literally shows a 30 second clip of progamers backstage.

edit: This is real, if someone just gets the VOD of the show ESC from the news highlight of Stork vs BeSt, the last segment of the show was the interview. Now if someone can just get me some vods...


do you know aired date?

081031 / 081024 / 081017

ahh.... Hmm all I know is that it was 1-2 week after BeSt Stork game


ok i've found the right one. before i'll send it to you, i'd like to inform you.

Show nested quote +

oov: Top secret, Im not aloud to talk about it
BoXer: Ooo
Kingdom: Pfft I can beat that build playing zerg
oov: lolno
BoXer: Haha


kingdom's line is mistranslated.
oov: (to kingdom) did you ever seen me lose (with that build)?
kingdom: (to boxer) hahahaha.. he never lost to me.
kingdom: against MY ZERG lol.




please, this'd be best with the subtitle :d
TroLL
Profile Joined November 2008
United States8 Posts
November 07 2008 23:47 GMT
#94
I'm really happy for Stork. good interview, and lol at boxer story
shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
November 08 2008 00:04 GMT
#95
Much <3
only_human89
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States212 Posts
November 08 2008 14:27 GMT
#96
rofl @ boxer and oov
"You're a pathetic, jerk, loser, and I wouldn't kiss you if I had brain cancer and your lips were the cure" LOOOOL
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
November 08 2008 16:23 GMT
#97
Wow this is a great behind the scenes look. Tx! Also nice to see Much getting some well-earned creds.
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Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
November 08 2008 23:01 GMT
#98
cant see video =/
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