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QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
November 18 2008 20:59 GMT
#101
In much the same way as TvZ's seem to be more interesting when the zerg wins, ZvPs seem best when the toss wins.

Again, both games that are already on there are top notch. Definitely the two best long-ass ZvPs. Both are in my top 3.

I'll make the case for some others:

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(P)rA vs (Z)July on Monty Hall in the MSL: This is the most insane game I can remember (P)rA ever playing, if that tells you something. He pulls a proxy gate/cannon rush into a Silver-style 'take the middle' strategy, into corsair/reaver. The corsair/reaver completely fails, but, unfazed by it all, (P)rA somehow makes a comeback using 4 high templar (and their eventual archon selves) to take out nearly everything (Z)July has - by themselves. I think this is probably my favorite PvZ, both for the craziness and the way that (P)rA somehow uses every unit to it's maximum zerg killing potential.

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(P)Reach vs (Z)Shark on Hitchhiker, MSL group stage: This is one people tend to forget about until they see it again. The game starts of with a lot of action as (P)Reach almost loses immediately to a ling/hydra break. He somehow manages to hold with his first couple templar, and in typical fashion refuses to use corsair/reaver for mobility on the winding map, instead going with a manly, in-your-face ground unit strategy. This is one of those games where you keep thinking someone is going to type out, but they somehow hold. Over and over again. Great from start to finish, this game has both cool moves and large battles.

(Z)Jaedong vs (P)Bisu on Blue Storm: Okay, a lot of people have mentioned this one. I think this breaks the standard for ZvP often being lackluster when the zerg wins. It deserves a top spot because both players really did play amazingly well. (P)Bisu was (P)Bisu, and (Z)Jaedong was incredible at the time but had yet to prove himself in the matchup. Not only did he go on to play lights-out ZvP from there on, he somehow manages to win this game. I still have a hard time deciphering exactly how he won it, too.

(P)Reach vs (Z)ChoJJa on Rush Hour: I hesitate to support this game, simply because it had a lot of, ah, 'TvT moments'. You know, big armies sitting there, sometimes patrolling around but not fighting. The ending is one of the best moments in starcraft, though. Hands down.

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(P)Stork vs (Z)GoRush on Neo Requiem, 2005 SKY Proleague: I hate (P)Stork as much as anyone, but this game was amazing. The scale of combat is almost unprecedented. Watch as corsair/carrier seems overpowered. Then devourers with queen support seem overpowered. Then maelstom seems really overpowered. The players don't just transition from unit to unit slowly, either. (P)Stork decides he wants archons, so he morphs like 8 at a time. Possibly the best part about this game is where (P)Stork loses a ton of carriers to (Z)GoRush's utterly stupid amount of devourers (seriously, he has so many), and then with the remaining couple leads the devourers over his cannons to maelstrom them right on top. Nuts.


As an aside, I think this matchup tends to be better on average than most (I feel the same way about TvZ though). I can think of a ton of other games that are great, but are either too one-sided or too short. Honestly, just watching any game involving (P)rA, (Z)sAviOr, (Z)Jaedong, or (P)Bisu is generally worth the time - whether those players won or lost.
Oh, my eSports
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
November 18 2008 21:03 GMT
#102
How has (P)RainBOw vs (T)ClouD on Jim Raynor's Memory (the probe rush into mind control into tank push) not been mentioned yet? I mean, the game was somewhat one-sided, but I have never seen anyone use a strategy like that before or since.
Uff Da
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17070 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-18 21:05:52
November 18 2008 21:05 GMT
#103
Anyone remember (T)BoxeR vs. didi8 on Legacy of Char way back when? :O
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NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
November 18 2008 21:05 GMT
#104
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A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
November 18 2008 21:29 GMT
#105
An oldie but a goodie.

The epic TvT: Boxer v. Zodiac[JoyPop] on Lost Temple. *Might be Joypop[Zodiac]

This is the game where Boxer lands a dropship full of ghosts and locks down all of Zodiac's battlecruisers within literally 1 second.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 18 2008 22:00 GMT
#106
It's not a vod tho, I probably forgot to mention that, but games with VODs only (meaning only broadcasted games).
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
November 18 2008 22:06 GMT
#107
On November 19 2008 06:03 Qatol wrote:
How has (P)RainBOw vs (T)ClouD on Jim Raynor's Memory (the probe rush into mind control into tank push) not been mentioned yet? I mean, the game was somewhat one-sided, but I have never seen anyone use a strategy like that before or since.


I want to see this game o_o
We see things they'll never see
PliX
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands72 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-18 22:13:01
November 18 2008 22:12 GMT
#108
The games were NTT absolutely buttfucked garimito at neo hall valhalla and new no way out.
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1. NTT - Best Brood War player in the history of the game. Also totally awesome and super sweet. Some ego problems.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
November 18 2008 22:25 GMT
#109
On November 19 2008 07:06 Tensai176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2008 06:03 Qatol wrote:
How has (P)RainBOw vs (T)ClouD on Jim Raynor's Memory (the probe rush into mind control into tank push) not been mentioned yet? I mean, the game was somewhat one-sided, but I have never seen anyone use a strategy like that before or since.


I want to see this game o_o


Sorry, I lost it in a reformat about a year ago. Does anyone still have this VOD?
Uff Da
CZ4A
Profile Joined April 2008
United States182 Posts
November 18 2008 22:45 GMT
#110
On October 25 2008 06:03 MrHoon wrote:
Oh I remember one!

TvT with Boxer and Nada (back in 2004-05 I think? This was when chatting was allowed between players)

The game was a total stalemate (almost all mined out), Nada makes nukes, Boxer scans ontop of nuke, Nada moves ghost under flying barrack and boxer writes
Boxer: lol you must think I'm an idiot to think I can't see that
Nada just starts cracking up after that. Game extends to Battlecruisers vs Wraiths, Nada wins with wraiths and sends Massive Medic/Marine. Boxer doesn't understand why Nada has money and accepts defeat.


Anyone have a link to the vod?
Jonteman
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden644 Posts
November 18 2008 23:00 GMT
#111
On November 19 2008 07:25 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2008 07:06 Tensai176 wrote:
On November 19 2008 06:03 Qatol wrote:
How has (P)RainBOw vs (T)ClouD on Jim Raynor's Memory (the probe rush into mind control into tank push) not been mentioned yet? I mean, the game was somewhat one-sided, but I have never seen anyone use a strategy like that before or since.


I want to see this game o_o


Sorry, I lost it in a reformat about a year ago. Does anyone still have this VOD?

I have it. But im not sure if it would be ok to support a samsung fan.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
November 18 2008 23:27 GMT
#112
FA, you should just make PvZ, TvP top ten too. There have been a lot of really, really epic PvZs with a lot of drama around them (especially in recent years) and the same is true for PvT.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
November 18 2008 23:46 GMT
#113
pvp chalrenge vs rock
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
November 18 2008 23:56 GMT
#114
On November 19 2008 08:00 Jonteman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2008 07:25 Qatol wrote:
On November 19 2008 07:06 Tensai176 wrote:
On November 19 2008 06:03 Qatol wrote:
How has (P)RainBOw vs (T)ClouD on Jim Raynor's Memory (the probe rush into mind control into tank push) not been mentioned yet? I mean, the game was somewhat one-sided, but I have never seen anyone use a strategy like that before or since.


I want to see this game o_o


Sorry, I lost it in a reformat about a year ago. Does anyone still have this VOD?

I have it. But im not sure if it would be ok to support a samsung fan.


Haha. I'm only a Khan fan because I liked sigamari. Since he isn't on a team any more, I just stuck with his old one
Uff Da
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
November 19 2008 00:01 GMT
#115
Boxer versus iloveoov game 3 Mercury is just as incredible as game 4.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/4211_BoxeR_vs_iloveoov


and Savior vs iloveoov game 1 CYON LB Finals is just epic. (Ride of Valkyries)

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/1720_iloveoov_vs_sAviOr


Read my comment for details on the boxer/oov one.
Liquipedia
born-to-porn
Profile Joined January 2004
Denmark400 Posts
November 19 2008 00:10 GMT
#116
Just remembered (Z)YellOw vs (Z)GGPlay on (Z)815. One of the best, non-standard ZvZs to date. (can't find youtube link)

(P)Reach vs (T)iloveoov on Neo Requiem and on Luna (from the same set (Z)Where (P)Reach 3-0'd (T)Oov) are both amazing games



(P)Reach vs (T)BoxeR on Neo Forbidden Zone is also one of my all-time favorite games (Jesus christ, (P)Reach is so amazing when he plays well). Watch out for Endless mudang storms



There has to be some great 2v2s aswell. Seriously. KTF and (Z)sigamari comes to mind
Nobody beats the Beater
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 19 2008 00:52 GMT
#117
I *love* Reach vs Boxer @ NFZ, but it was like the first finals I watched semi-live so I feel a bit biased.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
November 19 2008 01:30 GMT
#118
iloveoov vs yellow @ u-boat

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned in one of the replies, but I didn't see it in your main post. It's just a really scrappy game and certainly the best tvz I've ever seen.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
November 19 2008 01:57 GMT
#119
Vods aren't on youtube because they are GOMTV games but savior just played a sick ZvP vs his opponent last week.

It's on Neo Requiem, I don't know if you can embed GOM's vods though. Sorry if I didn't read the thread well enough. Just saw the title and I was reminded of that quickly.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
November 19 2008 02:26 GMT
#120
Yea, that one Stork vs Gorush game was crazy. There had to be at least 5000 corsairs and even more devourers. That, coupled with fighting for the cannoned expo, and the unit switches made it awesome.

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