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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
November 06 2009 09:21 GMT
#361
On November 06 2009 18:17 motbob wrote:
This thread got 18 pages. The ZvP is imbalanced thread got 42 pages. it's obvious who is right

CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
November 06 2009 09:22 GMT
#362
On November 06 2009 18:17 motbob wrote:
This thread got 18 pages. The ZvP is imbalanced thread got 42 pages. it's obvious who is right


I think the # of pages has more to do with how popular TL was at the respective times. Its been getting more and more popular as time goes on with SC2 impending.

I think the point is to prove that at one time, durring the reign of the Dragons, it was valid to argue a PvZ imba.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 06 2009 09:22 GMT
#363
oh god... This thread...
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
November 06 2009 09:27 GMT
#364
mutalisks bro
powered by coffee, driven by hate.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
November 06 2009 09:28 GMT
#365
On November 06 2009 18:17 motbob wrote:
This thread got 18 pages. The ZvP is imbalanced thread got 42 pages. it's obvious who is right


while that may be true, there's also a lot more imba toss threads that probably total more than 42.


anyways, it's nice to see the fresh prince of bel air again.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Pritler
Profile Joined October 2009
Bulgaria23 Posts
November 06 2009 09:47 GMT
#366
On November 06 2009 18:17 motbob wrote:
This thread got 18 pages. The ZvP is imbalanced thread got 42 pages. it's obvious who is right

There's just a lot of more people who like it easy(protoss). Whiny puxxys.

~Chill has attractive voice!
lololol
wok
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States504 Posts
November 06 2009 09:50 GMT
#367
Chill certainly does. And protoss is terribly imbalanced. They just 1a2a3a4a to victory... scum...
I'll race you to defeatism... you win.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
November 06 2009 09:59 GMT
#368
Yeah I don't think anyone is claiming P > Z over time.

What pro's have stated that ZvP is easy again? Savior, Jju I'm sure there's a couple more. A rusty (like really out of it) fucker like Yellow manages to take out Bisu, says something about the matchup too.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 06 2009 10:00 GMT
#369
Am I cool for having been around long enough to remember this thread?

-_-
Hello
Pritler
Profile Joined October 2009
Bulgaria23 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-06 10:13:59
November 06 2009 10:12 GMT
#370
On November 06 2009 18:59 Foucault wrote:
Yeah I don't think anyone is claiming P > Z over time.

What pro's have stated that ZvP is easy again? Savior, Jju I'm sure there's a couple more. A rusty (like really out of it) fucker like Yellow manages to take out Bisu, says something about the matchup too.

Savior raped anyone at the time, both terran and protosses. Noob.
Also, bisu caused savior to slump, that means that protoss is overpowered.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

~Chill has attractive voice!
lololol
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
November 06 2009 10:12 GMT
#371
On November 06 2009 18:59 Foucault wrote:
Yeah I don't think anyone is claiming P > Z over time.

What pro's have stated that ZvP is easy again? Savior, Jju I'm sure there's a couple more. A rusty (like really out of it) fucker like Yellow manages to take out Bisu, says something about the matchup too.


Yellow cheesed Bisu = doesnt count
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-06 10:15:22
November 06 2009 10:14 GMT
#372
On November 06 2009 19:12 Pritler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2009 18:59 Foucault wrote:
Yeah I don't think anyone is claiming P > Z over time.

What pro's have stated that ZvP is easy again? Savior, Jju I'm sure there's a couple more. A rusty (like really out of it) fucker like Yellow manages to take out Bisu, says something about the matchup too.

Savior raped anyone at the time, both terran and protosses. Noob.
Also, bisu caused savior to slump, that means that protoss is overpowered.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

~Chill has attractive voice!


Yeah and he didn't say ZvT was easy because it isn't lol


On November 06 2009 19:12 Mortician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2009 18:59 Foucault wrote:
Yeah I don't think anyone is claiming P > Z over time.

What pro's have stated that ZvP is easy again? Savior, Jju I'm sure there's a couple more. A rusty (like really out of it) fucker like Yellow manages to take out Bisu, says something about the matchup too.


Yellow cheesed Bisu = doesnt count


Fine
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Pritler
Profile Joined October 2009
Bulgaria23 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-06 10:18:32
November 06 2009 10:16 GMT
#373
Savior was pretty much unbeatable at his prime.
Then metrosexual bisu came and raped savior

So zerg is very powerful, but protoss rapes zerg.
Thus P>Z without doubt.

~Chill has attractive voice!
On November 06 2009 19:14 Foucault wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2009 19:12 Pritler wrote:
On November 06 2009 18:59 Foucault wrote:
Yeah I don't think anyone is claiming P > Z over time.

What pro's have stated that ZvP is easy again? Savior, Jju I'm sure there's a couple more. A rusty (like really out of it) fucker like Yellow manages to take out Bisu, says something about the matchup too.

Savior raped anyone at the time, both terran and protosses. Noob.
Also, bisu caused savior to slump, that means that protoss is overpowered.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

~Chill has attractive voice!


Yeah and he didn't say ZvT was easy because it isn't lol


Show nested quote +
On November 06 2009 19:12 Mortician wrote:
On November 06 2009 18:59 Foucault wrote:
Yeah I don't think anyone is claiming P > Z over time.

What pro's have stated that ZvP is easy again? Savior, Jju I'm sure there's a couple more. A rusty (like really out of it) fucker like Yellow manages to take out Bisu, says something about the matchup too.


Yellow cheesed Bisu = doesnt count


Fine

lololol
BarneyEX
Profile Joined March 2009
Malaysia98 Posts
November 06 2009 10:17 GMT
#374
On November 06 2009 19:12 Mortician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2009 18:59 Foucault wrote:
Yeah I don't think anyone is claiming P > Z over time.

What pro's have stated that ZvP is easy again? Savior, Jju I'm sure there's a couple more. A rusty (like really out of it) fucker like Yellow manages to take out Bisu, says something about the matchup too.


Yellow cheesed Bisu = doesnt count

Its called a all-in, chobo :D
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
November 06 2009 10:17 GMT
#375
When will people realise there is a difference between low level balance and pro level balance.

@Pro Level. Z>P

@Low levels(C&D ranks). Protoss is a noob no skilled race that requires one hand to play to reach C.
#1 Terran hater
Pritler
Profile Joined October 2009
Bulgaria23 Posts
November 06 2009 10:18 GMT
#376
No, you're 50% wrong.
Bisu raped savior, so protoss > zerg. That is pro level

~Chill has attractive voice!
On November 06 2009 19:17 Highways wrote:
When will people realise there is a difference between low level balance and pro level balance.

@Pro Level. Z>P

@Low levels(C&D ranks). Protoss is a noob no skilled race that requires one hand to play to reach C.

lololol
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-06 10:22:05
November 06 2009 10:20 GMT
#377
At low levels the races are at the same level of balance as they are in the pros BUT it doesn't matter since player mistakes are much more important below A-rank iccup.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Pritler
Profile Joined October 2009
Bulgaria23 Posts
November 06 2009 10:23 GMT
#378
Protoss is more forgiving!
If you lose your shizzle as terran or zerg in earlygame, then it's gg, but not as protoss.

~Chill has attractive voice!
On November 06 2009 19:20 motbob wrote:
At low levels the races are at the same level of balance as they are in the pros BUT it doesn't matter since player mistakes are much more important below A-rank iccup.

lololol
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-06 10:25:15
November 06 2009 10:24 GMT
#379
I will never betray the Overmind. 4 pool 4eva!

Also hydras are your friends if you don't leave them in storms. Fake attack per hydra group and watch the wasted storms and lol.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
November 06 2009 10:31 GMT
#380
Starcraft is balanced. Whining causes the imbalances, as it puts false thoughts in everyones minds.
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