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Profile Joined December 2007
United States264 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 03:43:12
August 08 2008 02:01 GMT
#1
http://www.scforall.com/sctv/sc_tv01.asp?mNum=s03&movNum=56

Sat down to watch the show matches for the Spirit Tournament Kal vs. Iefnaij and found to my surprise Daniel Lee was a guest commentating with Artosis for both games. Daniel was a real hoot... + Show Spoiler +
especially the moment when Kal manner pylonned Iefnaij 3 times.


Daniel Lee -"What Iefnaij doing is he eating a hamburger while playing, is he that good?"


The July vs Nony game was some good too. Nony decided to take out July's expo at the top left and found himself overwhelmed by a huge mass of units.

[quote]
Daniel Lee-"Oh, look at the white line, what is this...go home before the white line gets to you!"[/quotes]
FBH is insurance.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 08 2008 02:04 GMT
#2
might want to put spoilers, but good post thanks for the heads up haha
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
August 08 2008 02:12 GMT
#3
daniel lee = my favorite person, ever. he's so awesome.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 02:20:35
August 08 2008 02:13 GMT
#4
YES!! I was really hoping that something like this would happen. He makes a great commentator :D I really like how he doesn't hesitate at all to criticize.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
August 08 2008 02:18 GMT
#5
OMG, I'm listening to it right now but my internet here in China can't load it very well T_T
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 02:19:49
August 08 2008 02:19 GMT
#6
Lee: Hey!! Probe HIGH FIVE!!!
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
August 08 2008 02:23 GMT
#7
--- Nuked ---
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 08 2008 02:28 GMT
#8
I really like the modified replay progress bar.
blabberrrrr
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 08 2008 02:28 GMT
#9
Yeah he definately knows more about sc then most foreigners
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lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
August 08 2008 02:32 GMT
#10
On August 08 2008 11:23 Jathin wrote:
Am I the only one who thought Daniel Lee was over the top with his "humor?" I appreciated his strategic insight though.


Heh that's just how he is. He's an ecentric guy
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
August 08 2008 02:36 GMT
#11
nony played very well
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pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
August 08 2008 02:41 GMT
#12
rofl

HEEEY!! I just wanted to do that.. HEEEY!!! Okay..

Daniel Lee is awesome :p
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
August 08 2008 02:46 GMT
#13
Is there anyway for me to download the video? My streaming can't watch it -_-
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DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 08 2008 02:50 GMT
#14
Lee seemed fairly impressed with nony
Liquid | SKT
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
August 08 2008 02:57 GMT
#15
I was

He played pretty well, given his opponent was July

I like Daniel Lee, I hope he commentates more
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
August 08 2008 02:59 GMT
#16
He was kind of a good commentator in parts, but in other parts he was really annoying. Like randomly screaming, what was that?
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
August 08 2008 02:59 GMT
#17
Artosis, as always, shined. Daniel Lee sounds like he knows his stuff...but i'm glad that artosis was there.
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 08 2008 03:01 GMT
#18
On August 08 2008 11:59 Dazed_Spy wrote:
He was kind of a good commentator in parts, but in other parts he was really annoying. Like randomly screaming, what was that?

that's probably him bringing some Korean style commentating to the VOD
blabberrrrr
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8115 Posts
August 08 2008 03:03 GMT
#19
I always love listening/seeing Daniel Lee because he always sounds a bit like an asshole (and that reminds me of myself!).

<3 Daniel Lee
Free Palestine
Pwntrucci[sR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1519 Posts
August 08 2008 03:08 GMT
#20
More Daniel Lee commentary please:D :D
bg
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
August 08 2008 03:16 GMT
#21
daniel lee sounded like he had much more to say, but artosis kept interrupting. daniel lee wouldve had a much better commentary.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
August 08 2008 03:34 GMT
#22
Daniel's been back working for a few weeks now - I've been in the office with him a few times over my holiday. I'll pass on the compliments about his commentary
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
August 08 2008 03:49 GMT
#23
I really enjoyed his commentary as well. As for those that think his comments were too mean, I think they were definitely meant in a light hearted manner.
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Krigstar
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden77 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 04:50:32
August 08 2008 03:57 GMT
#24
Wow Daniel Lee is great. All his videos are always funny as hell. He really is the perfect man to bring korea and the rest of the world together in e-sports.

I do think we have reached a peak in the foreign commentating area with tasteless + artosis and I love them both, but it was really a breath of fresh air with someone who is brutally honest and also points out when someone is playing like an idiot :D
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
August 08 2008 04:04 GMT
#25
omg do the foreigners ever get stomped.
savior did nothing wrong
silver_fox
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada243 Posts
August 08 2008 04:07 GMT
#26
what did daniel say when asked what he thought of nony's play? i didn't get that last word.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 08 2008 04:25 GMT
#27
he said he liked his storming, and his reavers, and would like to see him play against maybe a practice partner for a pro team or something like that to get a better feel for his skill level.
ZoDD
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada309 Posts
August 08 2008 04:28 GMT
#28
dans the man
smarr pee pee
Juanpe
Profile Joined May 2008
Uruguay283 Posts
August 08 2008 05:15 GMT
#29
Awww poor Jian Fei, got so pwnd =/

Keep training hard, lets hope we have a rematch between Kal and Jian.
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anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
August 08 2008 05:18 GMT
#30
hey i knew that was sun tzu as well :o
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
August 08 2008 05:21 GMT
#31
Dan Dan the ladies man, funny stuff hahaha
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
August 08 2008 05:23 GMT
#32
hmm, first time I heard artosis commentate. I think his the best foreign commentator. Tasteless is of course great, but artosis has a much cleaner presentation.
Astrogation
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States477 Posts
August 08 2008 05:25 GMT
#33
Daniel Lee is my new hero
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
August 08 2008 05:38 GMT
#34
Dammit why don't they let you stream more then couple seconds? They fucked everybody whit slow connections by doing that.
Goosey
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States695 Posts
August 08 2008 05:52 GMT
#35
<3 Daniel Lee, <3 Artosis, and <3 SCForAll, those matches were a lot of fun.
+ Show Spoiler +
And Holy crap.. I mean, sure, Nony lost, but I was absolutely stunned at his play. Really fantastic micro/macro. This was a game that truely seemed decided by gamesense as every big advantage July gained seemed as a result of a bad attack timing by Nony or Nony not predicting which area July would strike next.

Great job Nony!

(JF.. I just am sad that Kal decided to rush you so that you couldn't show off your stuff better. )
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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
August 08 2008 05:58 GMT
#36
Daniel Lee was kind of obnoxious it seemed, butting in and interrupting Tasteless a lot, but for the most part I thought it was worth it, that what he had to say usually was worth hearing. I liked his comments on what the foreigner should be doing, they were very insiteful. With a little more practice/training Daniel Lee will be a very good English commentator imo.
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Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 06:10:10
August 08 2008 06:09 GMT
#37
On August 08 2008 14:58 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Daniel Lee was kind of obnoxious it seemed, butting in and interrupting Tasteless a lot, but for the most part I thought it was worth it, that what he had to say usually was worth hearing. I liked his comments on what the foreigner should be doing, they were very insiteful. With a little more practice/training Daniel Lee will be a very good English commentator imo.

lol Artosis, not Tasteless?

I thought Daniel Lee was cool to have on there, I enjoyed hearing his comments (game-wise, from a progaming point of view, and humor-wise)
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
August 08 2008 06:10 GMT
#38
On August 08 2008 14:52 Goosey wrote:
<3 Daniel Lee, <3 Artosis, and <3 SCForAll, those matches were a lot of fun.
+ Show Spoiler +
And Holy crap.. I mean, sure, Nony lost, but I was absolutely stunned at his play. Really fantastic micro/macro. This was a game that truely seemed decided by gamesense as every big advantage July gained seemed as a result of a bad attack timing by Nony or Nony not predicting which area July would strike next.

Great job Nony!

(JF.. I just am sad that Kal decided to rush you so that you couldn't show off your stuff better. )


agreed nony play great but i think he forgot or neglected his sairs he had sairs idle a good portion of the time i noticed
OMG you nasty gurl
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
August 08 2008 06:15 GMT
#39
On August 08 2008 15:10 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2008 14:52 Goosey wrote:
<3 Daniel Lee, <3 Artosis, and <3 SCForAll, those matches were a lot of fun.
+ Show Spoiler +
And Holy crap.. I mean, sure, Nony lost, but I was absolutely stunned at his play. Really fantastic micro/macro. This was a game that truely seemed decided by gamesense as every big advantage July gained seemed as a result of a bad attack timing by Nony or Nony not predicting which area July would strike next.

Great job Nony!

(JF.. I just am sad that Kal decided to rush you so that you couldn't show off your stuff better. )


agreed nony play great but i think he forgot or neglected his sairs he had sairs idle a good portion of the time i noticed



Umm... july scourged everything that left nony corner all game ... I think having them just to keep obs alive was good enough.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 08 2008 06:29 GMT
#40
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

i always knew daniel was hilarious as hell

but this is a whole new level

best caster ever
why so 진지해?
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
August 08 2008 06:43 GMT
#41
wow, I'm really impressed by how well nony played, his micro in large battles was quite good

I have a feeling that after about 5 minutes july started eating while playing though
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
August 08 2008 06:44 GMT
#42
I found Daniel Lee hilarious. And WOW I knew July would be awesome but Nony was very impressive looking as well.
wwooaa
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Croatia179 Posts
August 08 2008 07:20 GMT
#43
its lagging as hell..could someone upload it to youtube.com ?...pls...
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
August 08 2008 07:35 GMT
#44
That was awesome! I wasn't the biggest fan of the interviews Daniel Lee did, but his commentary was absolutely fantastic. Artosis is trying to butter everything up and tell everyone how spectacular it is and Lee is just like "AHHH, WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU FOOL?!" It was really nice too, because he knew exactly what he was talking about (obviously thanks to extensive experience) and really pin pointed the shifts in advantage as mistakes rather than plain misfortune (which Artosis liked to claim). Not to say I don't love Artosis' commentary too, but Daniel Lee telling Nony to move back his dragoons, and then Artosis saying how unfortunate it was they all got raped 5 seconds later was great. Hopefully our boys Tasteless and Artosis get better at pin pointing these shifts in their commentary, which will make things more insightful (although they're both moderately skillful in detecting them, it's obvious Korean commentating is on another level in that respect).


Chhhheers!
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
iCCup.Juppi
Profile Joined September 2007
Austria187 Posts
August 08 2008 08:30 GMT
#45
those videos on scforall are always laggy for me. can some1 upload them on youtube?
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
August 08 2008 08:32 GMT
#46
I'm glad Daniel Lee joined in. I think future commentaries would benefit from his insight. If players are playing like dogs, he should explain just how dog-like they are. I really enjoyed hearing where the mistakes were.
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
August 08 2008 09:38 GMT
#47
Woot awesome commentary!

"Look at those white dots, all over the map"
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mastuh
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States64 Posts
August 08 2008 09:41 GMT
#48
does anyone know where i can download the replays for these games?
eyeballball3
Profile Joined January 2008
United States93 Posts
August 08 2008 09:59 GMT
#49
awww these videos make me want more of korean commentating
what ever happen to the subtitle games
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 10:14:19
August 08 2008 10:12 GMT
#50
Artosis does a good job once again and big thanks to Daniel Lee for staying in the scene and trying to help us foreigners out as much as he can. You're the man, Daniel!

Just one thing:
Artosis still does this massive emphasizing of words, every 2nd or 3rd word he does it and it causes his voice to go like up n down n up n down it sounds horrible, I want to turn off the volume after about 15 minutes of listening just because he does it so much. He must really try and stop doing this, it's so annoying.
Sorry if it comes over harsh, but as a musician I just have to say that, it really hurts my ears.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6179 Posts
August 08 2008 10:22 GMT
#51
oh shit scforall videos lags so much for me.. is there an anternative source for these videos or download options somewhere??
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
August 08 2008 10:22 GMT
#52
On August 08 2008 11:41 JinSol wrote:
rofl

HEEEY!! I just wanted to do that.. HEEEY!!! Okay..

Daniel Lee is awesome :p
ROFLMAO awesome commentaries by BOTH Daniels! Loved it so much! An english website broadcasting/promoting/covering korean and foreign games with english commentaries with such professionalism. This is a dream coming true!!! I wanna watch more!!! MORE MORE!!!!!!

OMG SCforall is the best thing that happened to starcraft in a long time up there with the TSL!
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Fish_Baguettes
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia589 Posts
August 08 2008 10:26 GMT
#53
Daniel's experience as head coach of a pro-team really adds weight to these commentaries. I really enjoyed these watching these and i hope in the future there will be more =D
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
August 08 2008 10:40 GMT
#54
Great videos. I love the little insights into the progamer's lives provided by Daniel. Artosis' commentary was great as usual. I like how he's so blunt (makes him funny) about the foreigners whilst being understanding that these aren't pro-gamers and it's just a Bo1.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
August 08 2008 10:55 GMT
#55
On August 08 2008 19:22 Piste wrote:
oh shit scforall videos lags so much for me.. is there an anternative source for these videos or download options somewhere??


me2 ;( They keep on buffering after 15 seconds or so, I have 2 mbit connection T_T; Must be some software glitch T_T
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
August 08 2008 11:13 GMT
#56
On August 08 2008 19:12 ForAdun wrote:
Artosis does a good job once again and big thanks to Daniel Lee for staying in the scene and trying to help us foreigners out as much as he can. You're the man, Daniel!

Just one thing:
Artosis still does this massive emphasizing of words, every 2nd or 3rd word he does it and it causes his voice to go like up n down n up n down it sounds horrible, I want to turn off the volume after about 15 minutes of listening just because he does it so much. He must really try and stop doing this, it's so annoying.
Sorry if it comes over harsh, but as a musician I just have to say that, it really hurts my ears.

Emphasizing is a must in commentating in my stupid opinion. I don't know why you don't like how it sounds but it makes it sound much better, keeps it not monotone and boring and keeps the viewers excited. I'm a musician so I don't understand where you're coming from. Barack Obama also emphasizes a lot of words? MLK? Good speech is emphasizing important words, and Artosis does not overdo it in the least imo. Btw, still trying to ask this question, is there any way I can download the VODs? Because I can't stream them here in China.
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meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 11:22:57
August 08 2008 11:16 GMT
#57
Daniel Lee's commentary was both insightful and humorous. Heh, I found myself laughing every time he went Heeeey!! when Artosis centred on JF's reaver building. I really liked it, he should do more commentaries.

Edit:

On August 08 2008 19:12 ForAdun wrote:
Artosis does a good job once again and big thanks to Daniel Lee for staying in the scene and trying to help us foreigners out as much as he can. You're the man, Daniel!

Just one thing:
Artosis still does this massive emphasizing of words, every 2nd or 3rd word he does it and it causes his voice to go like up n down n up n down it sounds horrible, I want to turn off the volume after about 15 minutes of listening just because he does it so much. He must really try and stop doing this, it's so annoying.

Sorry if it comes over harsh, but as a musician I just have to say that, it really hurts my ears.


I agree that he might be overdoing it in some instances, but that is just his own, unique style and I do not think he will stop it.

My only grief was that he was interrupting Daniel Lee's colour commentating at times to do his play-by-play when it was not really needed.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
August 08 2008 11:17 GMT
#58
On August 08 2008 20:13 Superiorwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2008 19:12 ForAdun wrote:
Artosis does a good job once again and big thanks to Daniel Lee for staying in the scene and trying to help us foreigners out as much as he can. You're the man, Daniel!

Just one thing:
Artosis still does this massive emphasizing of words, every 2nd or 3rd word he does it and it causes his voice to go like up n down n up n down it sounds horrible, I want to turn off the volume after about 15 minutes of listening just because he does it so much. He must really try and stop doing this, it's so annoying.
Sorry if it comes over harsh, but as a musician I just have to say that, it really hurts my ears.

Emphasizing is a must in commentating in my stupid opinion. I don't know why you don't like how it sounds but it makes it sound much better, keeps it not monotone and boring and keeps the viewers excited. I'm a musician so I don't understand where you're coming from. Barack Obama also emphasizes a lot of words? MLK? Good speech is emphasizing important words, and Artosis does not overdo it in the least imo. Btw, still trying to ask this question, is there any way I can download the VODs? Because I can't stream them here in China.
I actually like the way Artosis speaks too. The only (constructive) critic I could give him is that he could use a little more energy and excitement, maybe learn some from Daniel Lee
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 11:33:11
August 08 2008 11:27 GMT
#59
HEEEEEEEEEY!

He was funny as hell and a perfect co-caster for Artosis, but were the games really just BO1's?
We make signature, then defense it.
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
August 08 2008 11:29 GMT
#60
daniel lee is awesome, he just needs to not yell into the mic, cuz it's really loud and annoying. i mean he can yell but not when he's so close to the mic..
THE ANSWER IS 288
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 11:36:23
August 08 2008 11:36 GMT
#61
On August 08 2008 15:43 Sunyveil wrote:
wow, I'm really impressed by how well nony played, his micro in large battles was quite good

I have a feeling that after about 5 minutes july started eating while playing though


after he dropped that first sair he probably thought he deserved hamburger, he goes by a reward system and judging by his um "build" lol hes earned alot of rewards.


btw im jk LOVE YOU JULY
OMG you nasty gurl
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 11:54:38
August 08 2008 11:50 GMT
#62
Artosis should be making more pauses to let the other commentar to share some thoughts (maybe questions what is his opinion). Especailly when the other commentator is Daniel Lee. He know his stuff but artosis kept blabbering all the time.

but it was good, pity that our players has been owned that easy.
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
August 08 2008 12:48 GMT
#63
On August 08 2008 20:13 Superiorwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2008 19:12 ForAdun wrote:
Artosis does a good job once again and big thanks to Daniel Lee for staying in the scene and trying to help us foreigners out as much as he can. You're the man, Daniel!

Just one thing:
Artosis still does this massive emphasizing of words, every 2nd or 3rd word he does it and it causes his voice to go like up n down n up n down it sounds horrible, I want to turn off the volume after about 15 minutes of listening just because he does it so much. He must really try and stop doing this, it's so annoying.
Sorry if it comes over harsh, but as a musician I just have to say that, it really hurts my ears.

Emphasizing is a must in commentating in my stupid opinion. I don't know why you don't like how it sounds but it makes it sound much better, keeps it not monotone and boring and keeps the viewers excited. I'm a musician so I don't understand where you're coming from. Barack Obama also emphasizes a lot of words? MLK? Good speech is emphasizing important words, and Artosis does not overdo it in the least imo.


I agree that emphasizing is a must in commentating. I just think he does it too much. There's a fine line between enjoyable and too much and I think Artosis crossed it. It takes experience to go back to a more enjoyable emphasizing technique so I don't think either that he'll change it. But I'd recommend it, because the way he does it right now it sounds like he's repeating the same 3 words over and over again even though he doesn't.
iLjh
Profile Joined February 2008
United States160 Posts
August 08 2008 14:38 GMT
#64
lmao "is he eating?! is he eating a hamburger and playing?!"

hahaha daniel lee is priceless
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
August 08 2008 15:46 GMT
#65
Those two are a great duo, the serious white guy and the crazy funny asian guy.

I agree that Artosis should give coach Lee time to finish his sentences, both commentators knows their stuff for sure compared to other amateur commentators.

If only the video streams from their website doesn't lag like !@#$...
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KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
August 08 2008 15:48 GMT
#66
wow


nice games and nice commentary by both

thanks!
zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
August 08 2008 15:53 GMT
#67
Who the hell puts up 3 manner pylons in a friendly exhibition game? Someone remind Kal he is not playing in the OSL finals That's like FBH doing ceremonies during practice games.
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
August 08 2008 16:26 GMT
#68
On August 09 2008 00:53 zgl wrote:
Who the hell puts up 3 manner pylons in a friendly exhibition game? Someone remind Kal he is not playing in the OSL finals That's like FBH doing ceremonies during practice games.


next time he should mismicro his zealots too so they dont attack and then accidently kill his own nexus with probes >_<;
of course he should if he is planning on a certain strategy he shouldnt alter it because its just a practise game... besides its not like they are THAT bad and I do imagine losing in one of these games would be like quite big faceloss (will at least feel that way) for them so they better play serious >.<;
its me
Duke
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1106 Posts
August 08 2008 16:48 GMT
#69
lee: HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
lol i just wanted to do that

Artosis: Lo-
lee: HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
August 08 2008 17:04 GMT
#70
artosis needs to stfu and listen to someone who commentates much better than him and understands starcraft much better.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 08 2008 17:09 GMT
#71
On August 09 2008 01:48 DukE wrote:
lee: HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
lol i just wanted to do that

Artosis: Lo-
lee: HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY


LOL THAT was so damn random -_- daniel lee.. loool
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
August 08 2008 17:11 GMT
#72
On August 09 2008 00:53 zgl wrote:
Who the hell puts up 3 manner pylons in a friendly exhibition game? Someone remind Kal he is not playing in the OSL finals That's like FBH doing ceremonies during practice games.


Hahahaha holy shit, the mental image i got from reading that is just hilarious.

Can you image FBH ripping of his shirt and start dancing around the Samsung house every time he beats someone during practise.
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calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
August 08 2008 17:30 GMT
#73
On August 08 2008 20:36 Kuja900 wrote:
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On August 08 2008 15:43 Sunyveil wrote:
wow, I'm really impressed by how well nony played, his micro in large battles was quite good

I have a feeling that after about 5 minutes july started eating while playing though

after he dropped that first sair he probably thought he deserved hamburger, he goes by a reward system and judging by his um "build" lol hes earned alot of rewards.

Picturing july with a burger in one hand managing 300+ apm with the other made me lol
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
August 08 2008 17:39 GMT
#74
"He doesn't feel anything, he's back at shakuris"

So funny, so good.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
August 08 2008 17:53 GMT
#75
nony should get picked up into estro or some team for that game against July, very impressive. More so than a lot of the newbie protoss lately.
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roadrunner_sc
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1220 Posts
August 08 2008 18:02 GMT
#76
Props to Daniel Lee for that awesome guest commentary! Even though it's only a small glimpse into how Koreans usually comment on these games, and though his engish is far from perfect, it's still amazing how much more meaningful the games become as a result.

Man that hamburger JF was eating looks delicious! Where can I get one XD
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REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
August 08 2008 18:04 GMT
#77
they make a great duo loved the baseball background story about july
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
August 08 2008 18:10 GMT
#78
I would have never guessed that July was a baseball player.

Daniel Lee is quite funny, and it would be great if him Artosis and him did more commentaries together. His english is extremely good. Did he spend time living in America or something?
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
August 08 2008 18:37 GMT
#79
yeah apparently he went to school in America for quite a few years. His English isnt *perfect* probably because he doesn't speak it often. I doubt hes not heavily americanized and knows the language very well though, considering all his time in the country.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
August 08 2008 19:16 GMT
#80
rofl i love when kal vs jf, d. lee was like HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY and out of nowhere hes like HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY again haha. the nony vs july was fucking great but man.. it felt like nony never stood a fighting chance. when he took down the upper expansion of july, i was like GO FOR THE OTHER EXPANSION and he didnt do so. took him awhile to. :/
ocoini
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
648 Posts
August 08 2008 20:17 GMT
#81
AMAZiNG QUALITY ON VIDEO! CAPS ON!
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
August 08 2008 20:38 GMT
#82
This is why koreans have such an advantage when playing Starcraft, they get to listen to people like Lee all the time.
He just added an incredible amount of insight, especially in JFs game.
If JF had Lee sat next to him in that game he would've stood a much better chance.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
August 08 2008 20:48 GMT
#83
July was playful and had fun with NonY, while the stuck up Kal (whom I eternally hate, worst protoss by far) just thought it was a bother and finished the game at once. Boo at Kal, cheers to teddy July though! <3
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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
August 08 2008 21:34 GMT
#84
On August 09 2008 02:53 Dazed_Spy wrote:
nony should get picked up into estro or some team for that game against July, very impressive. More so than a lot of the newbie protoss lately.


Impressive ?

he got raped ?
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
August 08 2008 21:41 GMT
#85
On August 08 2008 11:23 Jathin wrote:
Am I the only one who thought Daniel Lee was over the top with his "humor?" I appreciated his strategic insight though.


I thought so too, but I liked him talking about the players toilet cleaning schedule when Artosis asked him "what is going thruogh your mind as a coach when you see this?"
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Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2528 Posts
August 08 2008 22:13 GMT
#86
On August 09 2008 05:48 keit wrote:
July was playful and had fun with NonY, while the stuck up Kal (whom I eternally hate, worst protoss by far) just thought it was a bother and finished the game at once. Boo at Kal, cheers to teddy July though! <3
Funny, some people would look at it the other way. July was disrespectful by toying with Nony, while Kal was the one who took his opponent seriously.
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
August 08 2008 22:16 GMT
#87
On August 09 2008 06:34 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2008 02:53 Dazed_Spy wrote:
nony should get picked up into estro or some team for that game against July, very impressive. More so than a lot of the newbie protoss lately.


Impressive ?

he got raped ?


well who dosnt get raped by july in zvp these days, i mean even best got 3-0ed
OMG you nasty gurl
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 22:19:22
August 08 2008 22:17 GMT
#88
On August 09 2008 07:13 Blind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2008 05:48 keit wrote:
July was playful and had fun with NonY, while the stuck up Kal (whom I eternally hate, worst protoss by far) just thought it was a bother and finished the game at once. Boo at Kal, cheers to teddy July though! <3
Funny, some people would look at it the other way. July was disrespectful by toying with Nony, while Kal was the one who took his opponent seriously.


i think july wanted to give us a longer game, more enjoyable and more substance ect for the viewers and not just end it, you know let nony fight back for some pride to. I mean how often do we get july v foreigner i would have been dissapointed if july ended it earlier and i think july knew that
OMG you nasty gurl
AyoItsDoran
Profile Joined August 2008
United States7 Posts
August 08 2008 22:19 GMT
#89
Lol Daniel seems like a really happy guy ^_^.
15 year old starcraft player FTW
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
August 08 2008 22:41 GMT
#90
mmm

i dont like him at all as a commentator. I like his insights, but his "sense of humour" is just too annoying.
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B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 23:08:00
August 08 2008 23:06 GMT
#91
On August 09 2008 07:13 Blind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2008 05:48 keit wrote:
July was playful and had fun with NonY, while the stuck up Kal (whom I eternally hate, worst protoss by far) just thought it was a bother and finished the game at once. Boo at Kal, cheers to teddy July though! <3
Funny, some people would look at it the other way. July was disrespectful by toying with Nony, while Kal was the one who took his opponent seriously.


I don't think July toying with him means disrespect. July and Kal are far better players and everyone, including JF and Nony knows that. It's not like July did anything to humiliate Nony. He was just willing to play a longer, more entertaining game.

Also, would you triple manner pylon someone in a serious game?
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 23:12:37
August 08 2008 23:09 GMT
#92
On August 09 2008 07:17 Kuja900 wrote:i think july wanted to give us a longer game, more enjoyable and more substance ect for the viewers and not just end it, you know let nony fight back for some pride to. I mean how often do we get july v foreigner i would have been dissapointed if july ended it earlier and i think july knew that


Of course, July was READING OUR MINDS and knew that we would rather see him play around and drag a game out so we could watch him kill Nony's expansion yet again, because that's "more substance for the viewer." More entertaining, maybe, but "more substance" or letting Nony back into the game? As much as July dragged it out, he was very much keeping Nony from ever having a real shot at getting back into that game. July knows showmanship but he also knows how to put away a game.

As for the Kal triple manner pylon, don't see what's wrong with it if your opponent can't stop you from doing it. It's not like Kal did like proxy carriers or something absurd, I don't see what people are complaining about. It's a show match so he did something funny, I don't see how continuously doing manner pylons is somehow a hardcore win-at-all-costs strategy.

All things considered, Nony and JF did pretty okay. Obviously there's a long way to go for top foreigners to match up well against top Korean pro-gamers but at least there's hope.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
August 08 2008 23:12 GMT
#93
i dont think july did anything special. i was playing sort of defensively so i dont see an opening for him to kill me much quicker. he got a HUGE econ advantage by 12hatching while i scouted him last, so the optimal plan is to play for a longer game so long as the protoss is playing normally/defensively. and he isnt going to do some amazing timing attack for such an unimportant game. he's gonna save his great stuff for his real matches. so he didnt do anything special in either direction
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zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 23:41:34
August 08 2008 23:36 GMT
#94
On August 09 2008 07:17 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2008 07:13 Blind wrote:
On August 09 2008 05:48 keit wrote:
July was playful and had fun with NonY, while the stuck up Kal (whom I eternally hate, worst protoss by far) just thought it was a bother and finished the game at once. Boo at Kal, cheers to teddy July though! <3
Funny, some people would look at it the other way. July was disrespectful by toying with Nony, while Kal was the one who took his opponent seriously.


i think july wanted to give us a longer game, more enjoyable and more substance ect for the viewers and not just end it, you know let nony fight back for some pride to. I mean how often do we get july v foreigner i would have been dissapointed if july ended it earlier and i think july knew that


I think it goes both ways. One extreme is to toy with opponent and needlessly drag out games (disrespectful), the other extreme is exploit every weakness immediately and go for the fastest kill (a sign of respect or arrogance). Somewhere in the middle is best, and I think July was good in that sense. Its like this, July gave a chance for Nony to show his stuff, whereas Kal didn't. I don't really hate Kal for it though - he just took the game seriously.

Its like a beginner martial artists against a master. The master could end the fight in 1 blow or he could toy/humiliate the beginner. The best would be for the master to probe his student to study his strengths/weaknesses and help him improve; it will always be clear who is the superior fighter, but this way the student can learn more... thats why Daniel said he would have liked to see JF play without being triple manner pylon rushed.
liosama
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Australia843 Posts
August 08 2008 23:42 GMT
#95
On August 09 2008 07:41 ZeroCartin wrote:
mmm

i dont like him at all as a commentator. I like his insights, but his "sense of humour" is just too annoying.


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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
August 09 2008 00:04 GMT
#96
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Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
August 09 2008 01:35 GMT
#97
Soon we need to make a thread with Daniel Lee Quotes. Some of the things he says are just too funny.

"What is he doing, eating a hamburger while he plays"

"It looks like you may be getting a bit better, NOT!"

"What is JF doing now, watching TV"?

LOL such a funny guy, and he really gets in depth to a more starcraft player friendly level. For example: He will talk about how JF is being aggressive by not taking his expo, and that he should be. Then he took his expo and Danny freaked out. Thats real shoutcasting!!
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Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
August 09 2008 01:38 GMT
#98
On August 09 2008 02:09 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2008 01:48 DukE wrote:
lee: HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
lol i just wanted to do that

Artosis: Lo-
lee: HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY


LOL THAT was so damn random -_- daniel lee.. loool


LOL i love the guy. They are commentating on that game between JF and Kal and the screen switches to the shuttle speed upgrade and Lee just screams

HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!

over artosis hahahah
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