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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/6681/2008070213025362mj9.jpg) yeah, its true, next proleague season we will see  Anytime in Team ACE.Anytime - Oh Yeong Jong Main Race: (P)Protoss Team: Lecaf Oz Birth Date: 1986-10-18 Age: 21 (Korean: 22) AKAs: Anytime..[gm]Nickname(s): Death God, 사신 (Sashin) Toss Runner-Up: 2006 2nd ShinHan Bank OnGameNet StarLeague Winner: 2005 So1 OnGameNet StarLeague Winner: 2005 Daum Direct OnGameNet Dual Tournament Round 1 GL ACE fans =) | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5502 Posts
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Sanity.
United States704 Posts
ace will be a little better! | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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aev
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
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Fish_Baguettes
Australia589 Posts
Btw, do the other ACE players such as Chrh, Rage etc. finish their military services soon, or are they actually staying in the military? I haven't heard much about them before. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
On July 02 2008 17:27 Naib wrote: Well that means despite the rumors ACE is not disbanding I guess? In other words, good news? Yeah apparently there has been alot of fans not wanting ace to disband and seeing they have a few new players | ||
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Elsi
United Kingdom8173 Posts
Seems he realises he aint good enough now for the progaming scene | ||
GTR
51449 Posts
why join now | ||
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GTR
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On July 02 2008 17:36 GTR-2-Go wrote: anyway, fomos or afreeca source please. http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=86662&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd= | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On July 02 2008 17:36 GTR-2-Go wrote: anyway, fomos or afreeca source please. its main news @ fomos.kr btw | ||
thedeadhaji
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Carefree
United States1571 Posts
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PanoRaMa
United States5069 Posts
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thedeadhaji
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Whatever. Gogo Anytime!!!! | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4009 Posts
On July 02 2008 17:56 SuperJongMan wrote: Um.... .... sure?? Whatever. Gogo Anytime!!!! off: the hell are you doing in Jamaica, dude? | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
....... wtf | ||
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
Another possibility is that Anytime thinks that he might aswell join the army now and pickup with SC2 when he comes out, especially now that he is going down hill. He is going to be the top Kespa ranked player in ACE. Not bad, fOru, DaeZang, Reach and Anytime. | ||
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Holylight
Korea (South)460 Posts
On July 02 2008 18:40 RamenStyle wrote: Another possibility is that Anytime thinks that he might aswell join the army now and pickup with SC2 when he comes out, especially now that he is going down hill. He is going to be the top Kespa ranked player in ACE. Not bad, fOru, DaeZang, Reach and Anytime. Exactly, why not? Besides it might feel very good to have done your 2 years of service instead of stalling it forever | ||
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Descent
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
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Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
On July 02 2008 18:52 HaXxorIzed wrote: Definitely unexpected, Anytime is young enough to have a few years left in his career. I think that's the point. He joins now, is able to play trough the whole time and get's out at a good age where he can decide if he wants to start something else or keep going as a pro (or heck even start coaching). I think he made the decicion when he heard that they don't close ace and then just jumped on the train before it's too late. | ||
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Holylight
Korea (South)460 Posts
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Emptyness
Bulgaria1016 Posts
. I wonder where all the progamers as we know them now will be when SC2 will come out  ? Sad day for Lecaf's fans. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
((((((((((((((((((( evyerones leavnig. | ||
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mrdx
Vietnam1555 Posts
On July 02 2008 17:52 PanoRaMa wrote: Boxer gonna give him hell for ruining his last chance at the golden mouse. Last chance? I don't think so  | ||
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KameZerg
Sweden1762 Posts
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TonyL2
England1953 Posts
Well when he finishes the military he'll still only be 23/24 | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
If they get into Ace now they can do their time. But if they go in 3 years when there is no more Ace, they can't. | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
My brain understands but my heart can't take it | ||
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Gregsen
Germany667 Posts
They would shave his hair off! My God I can't even think of it (besides, I am NOT gay) | ||
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
On July 02 2008 20:08 BlackStar wrote: Why would Boxer leave Ace? It's his team. Will they kick him out when he stops his military service? If they get into Ace now they can do their time. But if they go in 3 years when there is no more Ace, they can't. ACE is a proteam exlusive for people who are currently doing army service. It's forbidden for "civilians". It's not that they kick him out, it's just that he is not in the army anymore, therefore he can't be in something that involves only army members. Besides, where would you rather go? ACE, a team full of washed up progamers or SKT, one of the economically most powerful teams in the proscene, full of old friends, and with unbeatable salary/training conditions & partners? | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7582 Posts
Now if Nal_rA joins... | ||
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KameZerg
Sweden1762 Posts
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
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MrHoon
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
I hope Anytime will start kicking asses again very soon anyway. | ||
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DeadVessel
United States6269 Posts
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
On July 02 2008 20:16 thedeadhaji wrote: My brain understands but my heart can't take it On July 02 2008 21:45 ICanFlyLow wrote: All old gamers should join ACE Ace would very quickly become the most watched team in proleague, with the most accomplished roster/bench. Edit: And still unable to keep a .500 win percentage. | ||
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ForAdun
Germany986 Posts
On July 02 2008 22:12 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: I think it's smart to join now. When sc2 comes out and bw won't be played as much (or not at all) Ace will probably disband sooner or later, so he uses his chance for an easy and relaxed military service, where he can still play professional sc Hourso of not seeing a logic behind AnyTime's move and now that I finally figured it out doh you're quicker  I think this is exactly his motivation. Actually quite a strong tactical move! | ||
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Polemarch
Canada1564 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
Go ACE! EDIT: oops, and SaviOr of course. Kingdom and Oov will do coaching and Boxer will be kept in a cryogenic chamber and released for the ace matches. | ||
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zincsterio
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On July 02 2008 21:45 ICanFlyLow wrote: All old gamers should join ACE Don't tell me Much is next -_- | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
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ForAdun
Germany986 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + His last proleague match makes it seem so. He seemed so lost when he was losing. Awww, I wanted to see him against Flash just once in my life :x | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
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RainmanMP
United States1698 Posts
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imDerek
United States1944 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
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riptide
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Goosey
United States695 Posts
If they just will give them some more practice time I have a feeling ACE can be a real strong contender next season. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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kpcrew
Korea (South)1071 Posts
lmao much is probably too old for the army by now | ||
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Ryot
Canada316 Posts
On July 03 2008 00:28 Athos wrote: Who's joining the military next, BaBy? i lol'd ACE is gonna be doing pretty well next season I think. | ||
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Plutonium
United States2217 Posts
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afdagfhds3gdg2
United States77 Posts
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TW WiNNinG 54
United States250 Posts
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dO_ov
United States190 Posts
On July 02 2008 17:56 SuperJongMan wrote: Um.... .... sure?? Whatever. Gogo Anytime!!!! On July 02 2008 17:45 thedeadhaji wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO these two quotes sum up my feelings pretty well. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
"testie has joined airforce ace" and I was like.. wtf?! | ||
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crazie-penguin
United States1253 Posts
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G5
United States2898 Posts
Anytime DaezanG Reach Oversky Boxer (not sure if he will still be in the army for next season) Clon Sunny Rage H.O.T-Forever ChRh fOru Mumyung Silent_Control wowowow so many Champions! Ace is really becoming a threat in the next season And this explains why Anytime hasn't been in OZ's proleague lineup lately. They probably are really working on getting there other players used to stage / tv games to be backups. With Backho, ForGG, Lomo and HiyA - OZ will be alright | ||
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poilord
Germany3252 Posts
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
On July 03 2008 05:25 G5 wrote: And this explains why Anytime hasn't been in OZ's proleague lineup lately. I am wondering wether this is the cause or the consequence. I would tend to think that Anytime has been struggling lately to keep a decent level, hence his lack of play with Lecaf, with all the newcomers rocking the place. As much as I like Anytime, I must admit his last games were quite depressing (0-2 in the all Protoss group in MSL, 0-2 in OSL againt Terrans, 0-2 against Memory in TG-Intel, and a barely 50% win rate in PL). Joining the army is a smart choice I think. He will still have many possibilities when he finishes, including continuing his career, maybe on SC2. And in 2-3 year, ACE roster may be so stacked that some ex pros might not even be able to join. | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
I think ACE Team is the team with the most-ass-kicking roster? ;o. Like wow. | ||
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Tinithor
United States1552 Posts
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dO_ov
United States190 Posts
On July 03 2008 07:13 Tinithor wrote: If all of these guys can pull out of their slumps then perhaps ACE can simply own next proleague season. | ||
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AnyOne
Chile547 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 03 2008 05:32 poilord wrote: holy shit; too much testosterone in team ACE O_O | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
The most popular theory is that we're seeing what happened to July with Anytime here. Why did July leave MBCGame for SKT1 for contract reasons if SKT1 offered him less money? The reason is pride. July MADE MBCGame what it is today. From a bunch of zeros to a championship winning team. Why didn't July leave when the big teams were offering him huge sums of money? Because he felt he was indispensable at the team. He was the team's savior, best player and the most respected player in one. But as soon as his level of play started dropping, he got the cold shoulder. He was offered less money than players like Bisu. And July probably felt very hurt because he carried his team on his shoulders to where it is today and as soon as they had better players to rely on, he suddenly became from the hero of the team to "one of the many players we have". July probably wanted to scream out "I GOT you where you are today and now you're ready to treat me like an ordinary player just because you can afford to now?". Anytime is also THE reason why the bottom scraping team like PLUS were transitioned into a powerhouse with a respectable sponsor. It probably escapes words how hard it must have been have achieved that. And Anytime was responsible for the most of it. But Lecaf has better players now. The manager of the team struggled with the players once, but now has a celebrity for a wife and probably wants bigger success to keep his lady content. Situations have changed so much and Anytime probably felt betryal to some extent. There was a show Anytime appeared on a few months ago and he said "things were better back then, not that things are bad now, but I just wanted to say things were better back then". He probably felt the winds of change even back then. I think it's inevitable such things happen when a poor team suddenly gets the money, success and great players. The previous ace of the team who played a huge part in getting all that success suddenly becomes one of the many great players. And if his level of play drops, he becomes one of the players. The whole E-sports scene is so fickle. I just wish the players who gave ALL their youth and skill to keep this business alive are treated better. Just wishful thinking though, probably won't happen anytime soon. | ||
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Plutonium
United States2217 Posts
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
I dread the idea of NaDa being absent for SC2 because he's patrolling the DMZ instead of a resurgence of 2002-2003, in 2010 or 2012! The Glory Good for Anytime! Edit: I say this as the greatest NaDa fan that ever was! | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
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Gokey
United States2722 Posts
WTTTTTTTTTTF | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 03 2008 11:28 Letmelose wrote: July was placed on a waiver, highest bidder wins or he retiresWhy did July leave MBCGame for SKT1 for contract reasons if SKT1 offered him less money oh and didn't july get some kind of rediculous bonus like +5grand per win? | ||
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
is going to be stronger next year, i hope | ||
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JIJI
Canada291 Posts
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On July 03 2008 13:46 Plexa wrote: July was placed on a waiver, highest bidder wins or he retires oh and didn't july get some kind of rediculous bonus like +5grand per win? Can't remember the details. July didn't get ripped off or anything, but the cash he was offered by SKT1 certainly worth all that fiasco. Doesn't matter though, he would have had astronomical earnings had he just left POS to die. He didn't, and he felt betrayed that the team were so quick put him down just because they could do without him. Anytime was with PLUS from the time when he was freshmen gamer who did the laundry for the team and practiced when the "veteran" gamers went to bed (because he had no computer of his own to practice with), to an OSL champion, and then a Proleague MVP and champion. He shared a part of his winnings for the team, he got them the recognition they needed in order to get the sponsors. God knows what Anytime must have went through to achieve all that in such miserable conditions. All it took was a mediocre season from Anytime for everyone to forget everything he'd done so far. Seems a little harsh. | ||
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WingSandrockX
Korea (North)1164 Posts
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
i''ll be his fan..anytime!!! | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
On July 03 2008 14:23 Letmelose wrote: Can't remember the details. July didn't get ripped off or anything, but the cash he was offered by SKT1 certainly worth all that fiasco. Doesn't matter though, he would have had astronomical earnings had he just left POS to die. He didn't, and he felt betrayed that the team were so quick put him down just because they could do without him. Anytime was with PLUS from the time when he was freshmen gamer who did the laundry for the team and practiced when the "veteran" gamers went to bed (because he had no computer of his own to practice with), to an OSL champion, and then a Proleague MVP and champion. He shared a part of his winnings for the team, he got them the recognition they needed in order to get the sponsors. God knows what Anytime must have went through to achieve all that in such miserable conditions. All it took was a mediocre season from Anytime for everyone to forget everything he'd done so far. Seems a little harsh. Wow i never heard about that. | ||
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
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d.arkive
United States843 Posts
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Spyder
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Narrator
United States868 Posts
I HATE ANYTIME!!! | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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[xan]
38 Posts
On July 07 2008 08:42 Narrator wrote: NO! I hate Anytime! He's going to go to ACE and ruin everything. ACE was the cool team! I HATE ANYTIME!!! WTF x 2 | ||
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Spyder
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On July 03 2008 11:28 Letmelose wrote:+ Show Spoiler + There are lots of discussion in Korean communities regarding the reasons for Anytime's decision to join ACE because he said that he was contemplating the possibility of retiring if joining ACE was not possible and you KNOW you don't think that kind of stuff unless you're have some serious problems with those around you. The most popular theory is that we're seeing what happened to July with Anytime here. Why did July leave MBCGame for SKT1 for contract reasons if SKT1 offered him less money? The reason is pride. July MADE MBCGame what it is today. From a bunch of zeros to a championship winning team. Why didn't July leave when the big teams were offering him huge sums of money? Because he felt he was indispensable at the team. He was the team's savior, best player and the most respected player in one. But as soon as his level of play started dropping, he got the cold shoulder. He was offered less money than players like Bisu. And July probably felt very hurt because he carried his team on his shoulders to where it is today and as soon as they had better players to rely on, he suddenly became from the hero of the team to "one of the many players we have". July probably wanted to scream out "I GOT you where you are today and now you're ready to treat me like an ordinary player just because you can afford to now?". Anytime is also THE reason why the bottom scraping team like PLUS were transitioned into a powerhouse with a respectable sponsor. It probably escapes words how hard it must have been have achieved that. And Anytime was responsible for the most of it. But Lecaf has better players now. The manager of the team struggled with the players once, but now has a celebrity for a wife and probably wants bigger success to keep his lady content. Situations have changed so much and Anytime probably felt betryal to some extent. There was a show Anytime appeared on a few months ago and he said "things were better back then, not that things are bad now, but I just wanted to say things were better back then". He probably felt the winds of change even back then. I think it's inevitable such things happen when a poor team suddenly gets the money, success and great players. The previous ace of the team who played a huge part in getting all that success suddenly becomes one of the many great players. And if his level of play drops, he becomes one of the players. The whole E-sports scene is so fickle. I just wish the players who gave ALL their youth and skill to keep this business alive are treated better. Just wishful thinking though, probably won't happen anytime soon. On July 03 2008 14:23 Letmelose wrote: Can't remember the details. July didn't get ripped off or anything, but the cash he was offered by SKT1 certainly worth all that fiasco. Doesn't matter though, he would have had astronomical earnings had he just left POS to die. He didn't, and he felt betrayed that the team were so quick put him down just because they could do without him. Anytime was with PLUS from the time when he was freshmen gamer who did the laundry for the team and practiced when the "veteran" gamers went to bed (because he had no computer of his own to practice with), to an OSL champion, and then a Proleague MVP and champion. He shared a part of his winnings for the team, he got them the recognition they needed in order to get the sponsors. God knows what Anytime must have went through to achieve all that in such miserable conditions. All it took was a mediocre season from Anytime for everyone to forget everything he'd done so far. Seems a little harsh. As I diehard Lecaf fan solely because of Anytime's character, charisma, leadership and play, I am greatly saddened to read this news/speculation. It's truly a shame because as you say, it was he who made PluS into Lecaf, a doormat into a champion. If he is indeed getting the cold shoulder, it's truly a disgrace. Man this is so depressing. | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
On July 03 2008 14:23 Letmelose wrote: Can't remember the details. July didn't get ripped off or anything, but the cash he was offered by SKT1 certainly worth all that fiasco. Doesn't matter though, he would have had astronomical earnings had he just left POS to die. He didn't, and he felt betrayed that the team were so quick put him down just because they could do without him. Anytime was with PLUS from the time when he was freshmen gamer who did the laundry for the team and practiced when the "veteran" gamers went to bed (because he had no computer of his own to practice with), to an OSL champion, and then a Proleague MVP and champion. He shared a part of his winnings for the team, he got them the recognition they needed in order to get the sponsors. God knows what Anytime must have went through to achieve all that in such miserable conditions. All it took was a mediocre season from Anytime for everyone to forget everything he'd done so far. Seems a little harsh. That is quite sad. I knew about the laundry thing and him giving money out of his pocket, but they didn't even give him his own computer to practice on? What garbage! | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
We were all up in arms because the inferior team (Plus) got sponsorship before POS, which already had Pusan, July, Sea in the forefront of their lineup and doing well in their leagues (Pusan had finished 3rd in Shinhan 2005, July is self explanatory, Sea had raped Nal_rA in dual league). This is so fucked up. | ||
FConnectionUK
United States316 Posts
On July 08 2008 06:59 Showtime! wrote: That is quite sad. I knew about the laundry thing and him giving money out of his pocket, but they didn't even give him his own computer to practice on? What garbage! This is when he FIRST joined the proteam. He did start with the worst manager imaginable tho... a thug who owned a pc bang...treated him like a shit. Still he had it better than the rest of older gamers. Not having their own computer is not a big deal, when there were plenty of others like him who were starving trying to be a progamer... | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
Coach: "Peter you must practice more" Peter: "Why don't you fucking get me a computer so I can fucking practice! What do you thinkof that!?" TT_TT | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
They ought to throw him a going away party anyway and I really hope they do. I totally forgot about their first manager and it really puts things into perspective. Some pro gamers go through a lot of hardships to make it. This is true. | ||
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
Oh well. I always knew Lecaf was a piece of shit. | ||
pachi
Melbourne5338 Posts
I think it names: RainBOw,  ZergMaN,  ClouD, Reach, Anytime as joining ACE | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Zurgman retired? great to see him back | ||
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Elsi
United Kingdom8173 Posts
 Thought Silent_Control was joining Ace too? | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
You do realize that joining the army as early as possible is recommended and not looked down in any way by Korean society, right? I mean the exact opposite is true. It's mandatory, you get it over with, you AREN'T the bitch who's 35 or whatever taking orders from a 20 year old. Sure, sc2/semi-slump etc may be factors adding to his decision but I'm willing to bet it's because there's a air force bw team NOW and he's not that much older than when korean males are eligible to do their service. Also I can see why the info about Anytime doing laundry not having a computer to practice with etc may seem like a shock to you guys, but please keep korean culture in mind. Most of the time, whether the person doing the chores gives a shit or not it's expected, deal with it[again why its better to go to army asap]. Also willing to bet Anytime didn't mind doing this since I guess that's part of the progamers-living-together sub culture. Whenever people talk about korea and bw they immediately mention the 5+ lan centers per block yet when some pity story about Anytime comes up they forget about that kinda stuff? I seriously doubt he waited around doing nothing waiting for the ' veteran ' gamers to finish. | ||
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pachi
Melbourne5338 Posts
Didn't all the younger no-name gamers do that? | ||
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
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DeadVessel
United States6269 Posts
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
On July 02 2008 17:34 GTR-2-Go wrote: eh anytime is like 21 why join now Better to get it over and done with early IMO. The sense of freedom after serving is great. | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
What Anytime has done is comparable to a player from Estro winning the OSL, getting them a huge sponsorship deal, then guiding his team to proleague victory, finally getting a top class salary, then quitting the team for military service a few months after. Yes he gets his duty over with and he can still participate as a progamer but you're kissing your high salary days good bye because there's no way you're going to reach the same heights two years from now. Going to ACE is the best move possible for people like Reach because his age prevents him from participating in the progaming scene without joining ACE and he's been earning top tier salary for quite some time now. But joining ACE is a TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE move for Anytime and something must have been seriously bothering him for him to do this. | ||
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Spyder
176 Posts
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jhNz
Germany2762 Posts
and together with daezang, reach and foru they have some pretty fearsome protoss players in their roster. ace fighting! | ||
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
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Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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WorldCommunist8
United States226 Posts
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pachi
Melbourne5338 Posts
YellOwCurrent List: YellOw (KTF)Reach (KTF)ClouD (OGN)RainBOw (SKT)Anytime (Lecaf)ZergMaN (Retired) | ||
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WingSandrockX
Korea (North)1164 Posts
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Elsi
United Kingdom8173 Posts
Makes sense if YellOw joins too ! | ||
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
I think it's a shame about Anytime, but it does remind you that for all the jokes about KTF (though not so much anymore, with the emergence of Flash), they, WeMade and SKT1 seem to be the only teams whose management actually cares for the ones that got them to where they are today... ... and incidentally all three of those were heavily, heavily touched by the Hand of Go- I mean, Boxer... | ||
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United States3897 Posts
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