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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 03 2008 11:28 Letmelose wrote: Why did July leave MBCGame for SKT1 for contract reasons if SKT1 offered him less money July was placed on a waiver, highest bidder wins or he retires
oh and didn't july get some kind of rediculous bonus like +5grand per win?
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Letmelose: thanks for the insight
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ACE
is going to be stronger next year, i hope
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Letmelose: Dude, that sucks. Lecaf seems like one of those teams where they are family. CJ and Lecaf seem really close. I might be biased because they are my favourite teams, but it really appears that they are family. Hope they do some shit before they lose Anytime not just as a player, but as a family member =/
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On July 03 2008 13:46 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2008 11:28 Letmelose wrote: Why did July leave MBCGame for SKT1 for contract reasons if SKT1 offered him less money July was placed on a waiver, highest bidder wins or he retires oh and didn't july get some kind of rediculous bonus like +5grand per win?
Can't remember the details. July didn't get ripped off or anything, but the cash he was offered by SKT1 certainly worth all that fiasco. Doesn't matter though, he would have had astronomical earnings had he just left POS to die. He didn't, and he felt betrayed that the team were so quick put him down just because they could do without him.
Anytime was with PLUS from the time when he was freshmen gamer who did the laundry for the team and practiced when the "veteran" gamers went to bed (because he had no computer of his own to practice with), to an OSL champion, and then a Proleague MVP and champion. He shared a part of his winnings for the team, he got them the recognition they needed in order to get the sponsors. God knows what Anytime must have went through to achieve all that in such miserable conditions. All it took was a mediocre season from Anytime for everyone to forget everything he'd done so far. Seems a little harsh.
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anytimeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
i''ll be his fan..anytime!!!
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is awesome32274 Posts
On July 03 2008 14:23 Letmelose wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2008 13:46 Plexa wrote:On July 03 2008 11:28 Letmelose wrote: Why did July leave MBCGame for SKT1 for contract reasons if SKT1 offered him less money July was placed on a waiver, highest bidder wins or he retires oh and didn't july get some kind of rediculous bonus like +5grand per win? Can't remember the details. July didn't get ripped off or anything, but the cash he was offered by SKT1 certainly worth all that fiasco. Doesn't matter though, he would have had astronomical earnings had he just left POS to die. He didn't, and he felt betrayed that the team were so quick put him down just because they could do without him. Anytime was with PLUS from the time when he was freshmen gamer who did the laundry for the team and practiced when the "veteran" gamers went to bed (because he had no computer of his own to practice with), to an OSL champion, and then a Proleague MVP and champion. He shared a part of his winnings for the team, he got them the recognition they needed in order to get the sponsors. God knows what Anytime must have went through to achieve all that in such miserable conditions. All it took was a mediocre season from Anytime for everyone to forget everything he'd done so far. Seems a little harsh.
Wow i never heard about that.
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I guess the only thing Lecaf boys have to do now is win the Proleague final and make a fucking insane ceremony for their former captain and best player. Just to show him respect for what he has done for them and the team.
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Perhaps he's stalling for SC2?
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wow letmelose amazing keep as updated with korean speculation pls
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NO! I hate Anytime! He's going to go to ACE and ruin everything. ACE was the cool team!
I HATE ANYTIME!!!
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On July 07 2008 08:42 Narrator wrote: NO! I hate Anytime! He's going to go to ACE and ruin everything. ACE was the cool team!
I HATE ANYTIME!!!
WTF x 2
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Oh god i would kill u if u were in the reach of my hands...Anytime is a Legend don't forget it
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On July 03 2008 11:28 Letmelose wrote:+ Show Spoiler + There are lots of discussion in Korean communities regarding the reasons for Anytime's decision to join ACE because he said that he was contemplating the possibility of retiring if joining ACE was not possible and you KNOW you don't think that kind of stuff unless you're have some serious problems with those around you.
The most popular theory is that we're seeing what happened to July with Anytime here.
Why did July leave MBCGame for SKT1 for contract reasons if SKT1 offered him less money?
The reason is pride. July MADE MBCGame what it is today. From a bunch of zeros to a championship winning team. Why didn't July leave when the big teams were offering him huge sums of money? Because he felt he was indispensable at the team. He was the team's savior, best player and the most respected player in one. But as soon as his level of play started dropping, he got the cold shoulder. He was offered less money than players like Bisu. And July probably felt very hurt because he carried his team on his shoulders to where it is today and as soon as they had better players to rely on, he suddenly became from the hero of the team to "one of the many players we have". July probably wanted to scream out "I GOT you where you are today and now you're ready to treat me like an ordinary player just because you can afford to now?".
Anytime is also THE reason why the bottom scraping team like PLUS were transitioned into a powerhouse with a respectable sponsor. It probably escapes words how hard it must have been have achieved that. And Anytime was responsible for the most of it. But Lecaf has better players now. The manager of the team struggled with the players once, but now has a celebrity for a wife and probably wants bigger success to keep his lady content. Situations have changed so much and Anytime probably felt betryal to some extent. There was a show Anytime appeared on a few months ago and he said "things were better back then, not that things are bad now, but I just wanted to say things were better back then". He probably felt the winds of change even back then.
I think it's inevitable such things happen when a poor team suddenly gets the money, success and great players. The previous ace of the team who played a huge part in getting all that success suddenly becomes one of the many great players. And if his level of play drops, he becomes one of the players. The whole E-sports scene is so fickle. I just wish the players who gave ALL their youth and skill to keep this business alive are treated better. Just wishful thinking though, probably won't happen anytime soon.
On July 03 2008 14:23 Letmelose wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2008 13:46 Plexa wrote:On July 03 2008 11:28 Letmelose wrote: Why did July leave MBCGame for SKT1 for contract reasons if SKT1 offered him less money July was placed on a waiver, highest bidder wins or he retires oh and didn't july get some kind of rediculous bonus like +5grand per win? Can't remember the details. July didn't get ripped off or anything, but the cash he was offered by SKT1 certainly worth all that fiasco. Doesn't matter though, he would have had astronomical earnings had he just left POS to die. He didn't, and he felt betrayed that the team were so quick put him down just because they could do without him. Anytime was with PLUS from the time when he was freshmen gamer who did the laundry for the team and practiced when the "veteran" gamers went to bed (because he had no computer of his own to practice with), to an OSL champion, and then a Proleague MVP and champion. He shared a part of his winnings for the team, he got them the recognition they needed in order to get the sponsors. God knows what Anytime must have went through to achieve all that in such miserable conditions. All it took was a mediocre season from Anytime for everyone to forget everything he'd done so far. Seems a little harsh.
As I diehard Lecaf fan solely because of Anytime's character, charisma, leadership and play, I am greatly saddened to read this news/speculation. 
It's truly a shame because as you say, it was he who made PluS into Lecaf, a doormat into a champion. If he is indeed getting the cold shoulder, it's truly a disgrace.
Man this is so depressing.
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On July 03 2008 14:23 Letmelose wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2008 13:46 Plexa wrote:On July 03 2008 11:28 Letmelose wrote: Why did July leave MBCGame for SKT1 for contract reasons if SKT1 offered him less money July was placed on a waiver, highest bidder wins or he retires oh and didn't july get some kind of rediculous bonus like +5grand per win? Can't remember the details. July didn't get ripped off or anything, but the cash he was offered by SKT1 certainly worth all that fiasco. Doesn't matter though, he would have had astronomical earnings had he just left POS to die. He didn't, and he felt betrayed that the team were so quick put him down just because they could do without him. Anytime was with PLUS from the time when he was freshmen gamer who did the laundry for the team and practiced when the "veteran" gamers went to bed (because he had no computer of his own to practice with), to an OSL champion, and then a Proleague MVP and champion. He shared a part of his winnings for the team, he got them the recognition they needed in order to get the sponsors. God knows what Anytime must have went through to achieve all that in such miserable conditions. All it took was a mediocre season from Anytime for everyone to forget everything he'd done so far. Seems a little harsh.
That is quite sad. I knew about the laundry thing and him giving money out of his pocket, but they didn't even give him his own computer to practice on? What garbage!
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
I remember Plus getting sponsorship before G.O, POS and KOR because of Anytime. (although GO was just holding out till getting terms they needed/wanted)
We were all up in arms because the inferior team (Plus) got sponsorship before POS, which already had Pusan, July, Sea in the forefront of their lineup and doing well in their leagues (Pusan had finished 3rd in Shinhan 2005, July is self explanatory, Sea had raped Nal_rA in dual league).
This is so fucked up.
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FConnectionUK
United States316 Posts
On July 08 2008 06:59 Showtime! wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2008 14:23 Letmelose wrote:On July 03 2008 13:46 Plexa wrote:On July 03 2008 11:28 Letmelose wrote: Why did July leave MBCGame for SKT1 for contract reasons if SKT1 offered him less money July was placed on a waiver, highest bidder wins or he retires oh and didn't july get some kind of rediculous bonus like +5grand per win? Can't remember the details. July didn't get ripped off or anything, but the cash he was offered by SKT1 certainly worth all that fiasco. Doesn't matter though, he would have had astronomical earnings had he just left POS to die. He didn't, and he felt betrayed that the team were so quick put him down just because they could do without him. Anytime was with PLUS from the time when he was freshmen gamer who did the laundry for the team and practiced when the "veteran" gamers went to bed (because he had no computer of his own to practice with), to an OSL champion, and then a Proleague MVP and champion. He shared a part of his winnings for the team, he got them the recognition they needed in order to get the sponsors. God knows what Anytime must have went through to achieve all that in such miserable conditions. All it took was a mediocre season from Anytime for everyone to forget everything he'd done so far. Seems a little harsh. That is quite sad. I knew about the laundry thing and him giving money out of his pocket, but they didn't even give him his own computer to practice on? What garbage!
This is when he FIRST joined the proteam. He did start with the worst manager imaginable tho... a thug who owned a pc bang...treated him like a shit. Still he had it better than the rest of older gamers. Not having their own computer is not a big deal, when there were plenty of others like him who were starving trying to be a progamer...
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