EPTHackers Caught !! - Page 28
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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clazziquai
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noobienoob
United States1173 Posts
On April 25 2008 10:54 VIB wrote: If they click stuff out of the fog of war without safe clicks I think it's supposed to say HACK on bwchart, but I'm assuming they fixed it on Oblivion so it doesn't say hack. Also, now that this method of catching hackers is known, the hackers can easily avoid this by just toggling the maphack on and off when needed and purposely putting "suspicious" clicks in, so it's not really reliable anymore. The method used is only good to catch people who hacked prior to the public announcement. This means we can now use the old method of checking if they click on stuff out of fog of war right? Is there any quick way to do this?  | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
On April 25 2008 09:21 Dknight wrote: I'm pretty sure thats the same Kassios. Here are some more caught, banned, and had all their matches reversed at WGT-CL: sT-Kassios- Ervin[5thF] faculty.Zarrr nerOz.BoSs kal.BoSs Keeper-JoeJim Keeper-Kakashi (Dino) Keeper-Tigrou paniC.rAisY- gH-Ferdin rSk.Blaster These gamers had their name thrown around quite a bit but from what we found, they do not hack: T.SQD)rubz, BW-Space, and xzOz.Rev. Uhh Kakashi is not Dino lol. Maybe had Dino play games for him, but defintely not Dino | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5529 Posts
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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araav
Armenia1590 Posts
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Reflex
Canada703 Posts
On April 25 2008 15:22 araav wrote: can't read all over the thread - but is there a special program that scans for this flag method over a specified replays folder? if notm, i will make one this weekend Yep. It's called bwoblivionhunter. Nice thought though | ||
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DirtyBirD
United States239 Posts
The result was a several day long plunge into the BW history of Spades. What we found will not surprise many of you since you took the original announcement at face value and went with it. Spades did indeed hack. It seems that he has been hacking since January of 2008, replays prior to that show he did not hack, at least not with the current method of detection. We reviewed some 150 replays and using an ordering by timeline method we discovered that prior to late January 2008 Spades had at least 1 click in 94% of the games over 15 minutes that he played. After January 28th those clicks practically dissapeared...strange to say the least. He went from 94% to 20% games with clicks. If you then removed a few games we were able to confirm were played on iCCup or LAN then we were left with 0% of his games after Jan 28th with ANY clicks. Thus confirming that he was using an illegitimate program or hack. Click here to see all of the stats:+ Show Spoiler + These are all the games played before 1/28/08... this is how legit players with few clicks should look ![[image loading]](http://premium1.uploadit.org/IAElitesquad//Clean1.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://premium1.uploadit.org/IAElitesquad//Clean2.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://premium1.uploadit.org/IAElitesquad//Clean3.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://premium1.uploadit.org/IAElitesquad//Clean4.jpg) These are the games after 1/28/08 - note the sudden change to all 0 click games. Also note the anomaly games. ![[image loading]](http://premium1.uploadit.org/IAElitesquad//Anomaly.jpg) Here are the fun statistics. Note that I did not add fonger, kawaiirice, or badapples replays to this. They sent me about 25 replays which all fell in the pattern - after 1/28/08 0 clicks, before 1/28/08 mostly had clicks with a few 0 clicks. ![[image loading]](http://premium1.uploadit.org/IAElitesquad//spades2.jpg) Even after all of this evidence, Spades has decided to stick with his story and deny any allegations that he has hacked/used a hack. My guess is that since he's said/used the story so much since the first call out, he can't back down from it now...I guess. Anyways, as such evidence has shown and as we've said before in another post somewhere, sMi does not and will not tolerate hacking or abusing in any way. We have removed plenty of "good" people from our team for these reasons before and Spades is no exception. Even though Spades played a big part in our CW lineup, we are without a doubt letting him go due to the results of our investigation. We here at sMi are sorry for the inconvenience this may have caused and for allowing Spades to be a part of our team while taking advantage of the good natured people that run/host leagues. Regards, The sMi Managerial Team: Leader - sMi.DirtyBirD Founders - sMi.NewB / sMi.Clash Managers - sMi.FakeSteve / sMi.Eternal / sMi.Aurious / sMi.KeeN | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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sprawlers
Norway439 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On April 25 2008 13:29 noobienoob wrote: If they click stuff out of the fog of war without safe clicks I think it's supposed to say HACK on bwchart, but I'm assuming they fixed it on Oblivion so it doesn't say hack. Also, now that this method of catching hackers is known, the hackers can easily avoid this by just toggling the maphack on and off when needed and purposely putting "suspicious" clicks in, so it's not really reliable anymore. The method used is only good to catch people who hacked prior to the public announcement. As long as the maphack is running, be it Off, Lite, or Full/On/whatever the third setting is, it should still eliminate suspicious clicks. Toggling wouldn't make any difference. (With the old version, at least) | ||
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bustaBust
Canada469 Posts
If you goto their Discussion forums a person asked them politely why they don't play fare (here). Their responses are "Have you ever played starcraft without hacks? shits boring!", "Quit fucking crying" and "Heaven forbid he takes a (undeserved) loss". No mother fucker, heaven forbid you should have to sit down and learn a GAME to earn a win. Heaven forbid you have respect for yourself and your opponent, heaven forbid you apologize for being a dishonest cheat. Every time hackers get exposed (with proof) they start swearing and counter accusing like a degenerate spazz. After taking it lying down for 3+ years, I want to fuck with their shit now. I have no sympathy for them, lets get dirty  .TL its time to show them shit ain't sweet! We need to fight back. Post ideas! I was thinking we could get Google to say their site is potentially harmful like those warez sites. They would lose a ton of visitors that way. Its small but its a start! Also do any supporters live close to...  Administrative Contact: Burke, Mike earwacks@cox.net BWHacks 2021 E. Soft Wind Dr Phoenix, Arizona 85024 United States 4802429319 WhoIs results | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
On April 26 2008 06:59 bustaBust wrote: Is everyone as SICK of these fucking hackers and their shitty attitudes as I am? I'm tried of them fucking up our games and not taking responsibility for it, like wasting peoples well earned leisure time with drophack is a joke. If you goto their Discussion forums a person asked them politely why they don't play fair (here). Their responses are "Have you ever played starcraft without hacks? shits boring!", "Quit fucking crying" and "Heaven forbid he takes a (undeserved) loss". No mother fucker, heaven forbid you should have to sit down and learn a GAME to earn a win. Heaven forbid you have respect for yourself and your opponent, heaven forbid you apologize for being a dishonest cheat. Every time hackers get exposed (with proof) they start swearing and counter accusing like a degenerate spazz. After taking it lying down for 3+ years, I want to fuck with their shit now. I have no sympathy for them, lets get dirty .TL its time to show them shit ain't sweet! We need to fight back. Post ideas! I was thinking we could get Google to say their site is potentially harmful like those warez sites. They would loose a ton of visitors that way. Its small but its a start! Also do any supporters live close to... Administrative Contact: Burke, Mike earwacks@cox.net BWHacks 2021 E. Soft Wind Dr Phoenix, Arizona 85024 United States 4802429319 WhoIs results lol it's pointless even talking to them. They are for hacking, so that's why they disagreed to everything that "Fathom" said. | ||
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bustaBust
Canada469 Posts
If its not feasible at least we tried. But I think with the amount of talent on TL its completely feasible. We have programmers just like they do. If they can update their hacks in 2 days, why can't we make automatic hacker dropper tool? They're so many ways you can mess with someone when you have 200+ TLers at your disposal at any one time. We own the internet, do we not? | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
Maybe we should even give them more spotlight and try to communicate with the programmers more. I mean, people who want to hack will continue anyway and these are also the lame kiddies saying that playing without hack sucks. I vouch Zynastor as the next interviewee for RaGe! | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
I hate hackers. I wish they'd rot and burn. I've never even used maphacks for Diablo 2, and fucking everyone does. The thing is, TT1 seems to be making an honest effort to reform. Is it too little too late? Probably for most people. TT1 may be like a criminal with an extensive record trying to reform. But if he's serious about it, he'll have to endure many months of hardship. Still, if people gave Testie a second chance (and yes, the young'en out there might not remember, but Testie was caught multiple different times and then later admitted to having hacked even after he was supposedly clean -- all the way as late as 02), then holding a double standard towards other hackers would be pitiful. I guess it just sucks for TT1 that he has neither the skill nor the charisma of Testie. Meh, I might get banned for bringing up such old news, but I DON'T mean to use it to breed e-drama. The reason I bring it up is to remind people not to have double standards. It's fine if you say "I'll never forgive any hackers" and it's fine if you say "I'll forgive them if they prove themselves capable of reform." Really, I don't care either way, but it bothers me a bit that people have such double standards. Do I think TT1 should have been allowed to finish this tourney? No. Why not? The rules said that you can't have hacked within so many months of the tourney. That was an ironclad rule and it was broken. It was right to ban him. I'm not so sure it's right for the community to get all bunched up in the panties when the community has such a history of forgiveness of hackers. That's all. | ||
Chill
Calgary25996 Posts
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
On April 26 2008 06:59 bustaBust wrote: Is everyone as SICK of these fucking hackers and their shitty attitudes as I am? I'm tried of them fucking up our games and not taking responsibility for it, like wasting peoples well earned leisure time with drophack is a joke. If you goto their Discussion forums a person asked them politely why they don't play fare (here). Their responses are "Have you ever played starcraft without hacks? shits boring!", "Quit fucking crying" and "Heaven forbid he takes a (undeserved) loss". No mother fucker, heaven forbid you should have to sit down and learn a GAME to earn a win. Heaven forbid you have respect for yourself and your opponent, heaven forbid you apologize for being a dishonest cheat. Every time hackers get exposed (with proof) they start swearing and counter accusing like a degenerate spazz. After taking it lying down for 3+ years, I want to fuck with their shit now. I have no sympathy for them, lets get dirty .TL its time to show them shit ain't sweet! We need to fight back. Post ideas! I was thinking we could get Google to say their site is potentially harmful like those warez sites. They would loose a ton of visitors that way. Its small but its a start! Also do any supporters live close to... Administrative Contact: Burke, Mike earwacks@cox.net BWHacks 2021 E. Soft Wind Dr Phoenix, Arizona 85024 United States 4802429319 WhoIs results Fucking high-five, man. If I was a girl I would totally hit you :D edit: Who the hell puts his address on a website -_- | ||
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