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fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
April 20 2008 18:58 GMT
#201
On April 21 2008 03:56 Python_Max wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2008 03:44 fight_or_flight wrote:
Is it possible to alter a rep and add in some enemy unit selections?

In theory yes. Plan B?

Yea, I say this because its an action that doesn't 'do anything' so it wouldn't screw up the replay.
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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
April 20 2008 19:04 GMT
#202
Well, theoretically it could be done as it doesn't ruin rep synch, but the only reason for such an altering would be malicious intent. So it doesn't change anything, if you alter replays, you must have a reason for it, if you have a reason for it, goodbye.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
0z
Profile Joined August 2006
Luxembourg877 Posts
April 20 2008 19:07 GMT
#203
On April 21 2008 04:04 BluzMan wrote:
Well, theoretically it could be done as it doesn't ruin rep synch, but the only reason for such an altering would be malicious intent. So it doesn't change anything, if you alter replays, you must have a reason for it, if you have a reason for it, goodbye.

Isn't the point that that would make the new method obsolete?
Cesar2000
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden185 Posts
April 20 2008 19:10 GMT
#204
Not when your opponent has a rep that tells a different story...
InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-20 19:13:33
April 20 2008 19:12 GMT
#205
On April 21 2008 04:07 0z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2008 04:04 BluzMan wrote:
Well, theoretically it could be done as it doesn't ruin rep synch, but the only reason for such an altering would be malicious intent. So it doesn't change anything, if you alter replays, you must have a reason for it, if you have a reason for it, goodbye.

Isn't the point that that would make the new method obsolete?

this method is already obsolete for newer replays... And there is no way to edit old replay, cause they usually have more than one reliable source.
On April 21 2008 04:10 Cesar2000 wrote:
Not when your opponent has a rep that tells a different story...

oh yeah, lol...
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
April 20 2008 19:13 GMT
#206
2 for 2 people hacking vs mistrzzz lol. Maybe they fear hes hacking
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[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
April 20 2008 19:13 GMT
#207
It's too late now.. but if instead of releasing how the method works, but writing a program that just says they hack upon seeing the replay.
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charcute
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada419 Posts
April 20 2008 19:14 GMT
#208
well testie, i just watched the rep and you maphacked. it was in 2006

http://www.replayhome.com:8080/sc/replay-45201.html

with 1.14 bw launcher you can watch fp replay and we can see you maphacking badly.

So the ban isnt against me
I like to do it all night long
0z
Profile Joined August 2006
Luxembourg877 Posts
April 20 2008 19:14 GMT
#209
On April 21 2008 04:10 Cesar2000 wrote:
Not when your opponent has a rep that tells a different story...

if you say that he deleted your actions to frame you, who will be able to decide?
gusbear
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
333 Posts
April 20 2008 19:18 GMT
#210
Ok since TT1 is denying it so strongly, i went and looked more closely at his reps from the reppack.

1) It is not true that ALL the games from WGT have no selects. There are at least 2 games: 18min vs Ptak and 14min vs ytong where aQua66 selects something.

2) ALL the WGT reps seem to have TT1's hotkey signature, this contradicts his story that a friend played on that account.

3) There are a few reps with no selects from TSL the longests ones being 11 minute games, #2077 and #2105.

From this, I would say there is a very minute possibility that in 2007, TT1 just wasnt a good player and rarely clicked on opponent units. In 2008, his game inproved and he started the clicking habit, however there are still a few short games that have no selects. This leaves only 1 really odd replay, which is his recent 40 min game vs moonek but if you watch that game he doesnt play like someone with map vision.

Does anyone have earlier 2006/2007 TT1 reps that show him consistently selecting enemy units? Or reps that were recorded before Oblivion's "hiding selects" was developed? This would be able to show that he was using a hack in WGT. Otherwise, he could simply have been a bad player.
bRokeN
Profile Joined March 2007
United States22 Posts
April 20 2008 19:22 GMT
#211
i dont even play bw anymore but i suppose ill respond on this.

you say "either i hack, or i dont click otherr units as much as good players" i dont see how this concludes any sort of proof i hack. I don't hack, i never have hacked, ive made the mistake of letting people smurf for me and had multiple accounts, but thats the most ive ever done in terms of abuse of this game. Many people have had it out for me since i started getting atleast decent at this game, mostly because of american arrogance and thinking they can be the only good players in america, namely media. But even so, what kind of moron would post numerous rep packs and replays if he hacked, thats like the dumbest thing ive ever heard of. I play 90% of my games on ICCUP and i was training for wcg, there is no reason to hack that would only ruin my chances. I think this new method is all based on interpretation, and out of everyoen on there, only mine seems like its "chances are he hacks". Whether you believe me or not i dont really care, i recently quit bw, to take care of school and personal life. So if i'm falsely remembered as a hacker, oh well.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-20 19:26:35
April 20 2008 19:22 GMT
#212
TT1 admitted to hacking in the WGT pack after hotkey signature confirmed that it was him. He said this to me on MSN, and also said I could post that he said this.

He also still maintains he didn't hack in the 5 recent reps, believe him if you want.
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primus inter pare
Profile Joined March 2008
United States12 Posts
April 20 2008 19:24 GMT
#213
On April 21 2008 04:22 bRokeN wrote:
i dont even play bw anymore but i suppose ill respond on this.

you say "either i hack, or i dont click otherr units as much as good players" i dont see how this concludes any sort of proof i hack. I don't hack, i never have hacked, ive made the mistake of letting people smurf for me and had multiple accounts, but thats the most ive ever done in terms of abuse of this game. Many people have had it out for me since i started getting atleast decent at this game, mostly because of american arrogance and thinking they can be the only good players in america, namely media. But even so, what kind of moron would post numerous rep packs and replays if he hacked, thats like the dumbest thing ive ever heard of. I play 90% of my games on ICCUP and i was training for wcg, there is no reason to hack that would only ruin my chances. I think this new method is all based on interpretation, and out of everyoen on there, only mine seems like its "chances are he hacks". Whether you believe me or not i dont really care, i recently quit bw, to take care of school and personal life. So if i'm falsely remembered as a hacker, oh well.


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Liquid`HayprO
Profile Joined March 2003
Iraq1230 Posts
April 20 2008 19:31 GMT
#214
its good that there is lots of replays behind everyone getting caught
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kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
April 20 2008 19:31 GMT
#215
On April 21 2008 04:22 bRokeN wrote:
i dont even play bw anymore but i suppose ill respond on this.

you say "either i hack, or i dont click otherr units as much as good players" i dont see how this concludes any sort of proof i hack. I don't hack, i never have hacked, ive made the mistake of letting people smurf for me and had multiple accounts, but thats the most ive ever done in terms of abuse of this game. Many people have had it out for me since i started getting atleast decent at this game, mostly because of american arrogance and thinking they can be the only good players in america, namely media. But even so, what kind of moron would post numerous rep packs and replays if he hacked, thats like the dumbest thing ive ever heard of. I play 90% of my games on ICCUP and i was training for wcg, there is no reason to hack that would only ruin my chances. I think this new method is all based on interpretation, and out of everyoen on there, only mine seems like its "chances are he hacks". Whether you believe me or not i dont really care, i recently quit bw, to take care of school and personal life. So if i'm falsely remembered as a hacker, oh well.

For fame / regognize / wanting to be 1 of the cool guys here who deliveres reppacks etc etc etc

Also I remember @wgt Cheat forums(months ago, u were #1 there then) some Danish kid made topic about u(sMi.Spades), he had feeling u hacked. Posted some weird stuff about u, u posted also in that topic, etc etc. I am 100% sure u hacked.

Too bad I dont find that topic anymore, I would definetly bumb that topic and give high 5 for the dude.
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5502 Posts
April 20 2008 19:36 GMT
#216
bye bye spades.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
overpool
Profile Joined April 2008
United States191 Posts
April 20 2008 19:36 GMT
#217
Great job, but wouldn't it be pretty easy to modify the hacks to insert a few innocuous enemy unit selections?
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5502 Posts
April 20 2008 19:43 GMT
#218
Its already being fixed in the next version of the hack as hotbid said.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
April 20 2008 19:45 GMT
#219
Spades recently quit? LOL all hackers say that when they come out of the closet. Now I see how he could be A before AH was implemented and how he won against a lot of good players. I even won against him in the TSL event a few days ago and man... He was stuck at C+.

FU Spades. I really hope you leave BW for good like you say you will.

And Executor. I hope he is fucking gone for good. The guy has been caught hacking so many times and the whole community knew he were still hacking. Just quit Starcraft you failure .

Want to know more about BW-Space since he is from the swedish community. Where did that accusation come from and has someone tried gathering evidence? I don't know much about him but I find it - in agreement with merz - very unlikely to believe that he'd hack.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
April 20 2008 19:48 GMT
#220
TT1 hacker for life. Just stop playing SC.
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