How do you feel about your victory by decision over Bisu?
- I won, but I don't feel very good. I would have performed a ceremony if I had won cleanly, but I feel bad because of the messy conclusion.
Your hydralisk strategy was good
- Rumble(a player on T1) used the same strat on Bluestorm against Free, but he lost. That time, he messed up his hotkeys and wasn't able to break the defense even though he was in a situation to do so. Since I have a game tomorrow as well, I decided to use that strategy. Though I wanted play a strategic/management style game like Jaedong did, I didn't have the time to prepare so I took the risk.
What did the referee say to you?
- He said that there would be a re-game if the replay showed the Dark Templar had finished. Even if the DT was out, I would have won the game. It wouldn't have been odd at all if Bisu had typed GG right there. I was really stunned at the talk of a re-game in that kind of situation.
The entire coaching staff of T1 is to be reorganized... - I really didn't know until I read the article. The coach came and talked to me about it, and I didn't feel good about it at all. I've only just joined T1, and it doesn't sit well with me that he's leaving so soon. Today's just not a good day in general.
You improved your chances to reach the round of 8. - Next week's game will be biggest challenge. Next week will also decide whether I reach the next round in the MSL as well. First, I just want to win tomorrow's game, and then my eventual goal is to win ZvT next week to reach the quarter-finals of both leagues. I really want to improve my deteriorated ZvT. I have to practice very hard to that end.
Any last words? - Though it wasn't the best ending, I'm glad I could meet my fans as the victor nonetheless. I'm happy to end my team's 6 game losing streak in singles competition. I want to keep the team's spirits up by winning tomorrow's game and future games.
this is sort of a non-serious post, but they should just have one of the professional mapmakers recreate that scene and have them play it out from there
but seriously, one dt against 12+ hydras and a defended main with 2 saturated bases?
On January 25 2008 00:13 Trainninja wrote: i watched until the game dropped out - did bisu chuck a fit or something? july mentioned in the interview that bisu was pissed at the auto win.
He was probably just upset at the way it ended, just like July was.
It isn't a question of whether or not the DT could have killed the hydras, If you saw when the ref's watched the replay, even if he wouldn't have dropped, the dt was still 2+ blocks away from being finished when the building died, and then they exited the replay.
Any chance they interviewed Bisu about it? I'd like to know why he was looking so pissy. I mean, obviously not the best way for it to end, but did he actually expect a re-game, or...?
you're either stupid, arrogant/ignorant, blind, asleep.. the list could go on, but it really doesnt matter, we all be awake soon !!
this is just an alarm bell for all that watch and view.. ding dong.. time to pause.. time to see, time to think..... the new world (higher state of consciousness) is emerging and the old world is dying
how bizzare? how real? how cool and awesome really?? we can all talk as if this is just some blind random accident or (do u even know the story behind bisu and july? or/and bisu himself in his current life and all that, particularly his Pvz... etc etc etc!!)
like Klazart says in his commentary "you either adapt or die" ..... in that one little sense, thats so true (cmon bisu!!! silly dumbass hehe)..... or/and in a BIGGER PICTURE, its true.... How Do You Reason and Play with this one Reality/Situation? ...... time to play StarCraft in RealLife !! !! !! !!!!
open ur minds (creative intelligence), listen to ur hearts (soul), follow ur energy (spirit) ... its time to go back home...
this is a very complex and a varied post here, involving many dimensions-ideas-thoughts.. all mixed up, but man.... so much is happening!?? how can u swamp it all into one... ahhh well lets just see anyway
On January 25 2008 04:18 Scorpio2012 wrote: ... "this is evolution at work, you adapt or you die"
peace x
"..." yourself.
Nobody has any idea what you were even trying to say (looked to me as if you were engaged in a drunken babble).
Is your point that Bisu failed to adapt? Foolish. July went for a pretty high risk all-in strategy and nailed the timing dead on. Dead on. Bisu was caught with his pants down.
ya.. Bisu was caught with his pants down... i think thats alot of what this is about... perhaps, let truth reign, and not darkness if u get what im saying? its all in view if u would just look.. and even still whats funny, just another thing, it was a DARK templar that was stalled... funny huh? but its like, we need to stop worrying about what others may think about us, or vise versa etc... plus more, much much more im sure, i know... but hey, do u catch the level im connecting with and working on? take this as just food for thought if u will
On January 25 2008 04:46 Scorpio2012 wrote: ya.. Bisu was caught with his pants down... i think thats alot of what this is about... perhaps, let truth reign, and not darkness if u get what im saying? its all in view if u would just look.. and even still whats funny, just another thing, it was a DARK templar that was stalled... funny huh? but its like, we need to stop worrying about what others may think about us, or vise versa etc... plus more, much much more im sure, i know... but hey, do u catch the level im connecting with and working on? take this as just food for thought if u will
hmm...i'm not really catching the gist of what you're trying to say. @.@
that we're not supposed to worry about others' thoughts?
actually, i guess what i was trying to say right at the start was, basically, from my point of view.. theres two Realities.. one being "the stage world" and one being "the back stage" and u can say "the stage world" can be likened to "the matrix" (yes like the movie)... and "the back stage" being "the real world" ..... so what makes The Real World is thought of a higher deeper sense and purpose, perhaps! ... so basically "the stage world" is based on systematic beliefs set and programed in ur mind based on "seperation and ego" ..... the New World or Back Stage Reality, is based on Truth, Oneness and Love and NO limitations... such as "the stage world" is all about limitations that ultimately imprison us
i think to connect with and be in the real world/back stage ... is to make up your own mind TOTALLY... which is to go WITHIN and search for your own reality and truth..... THIS, i believe, is what happened... to make us go in this one direction... HOWEVER it may be
On January 25 2008 05:19 Artosis3 wrote: what exactly happened? was it a disc or something?
Drop screen occurred and bisu dropped at a critical time where his gateway that was producing his only ground infantry was destroyed. The DT did not make it out, hence, his main would of fell shortly there after.
On January 25 2008 05:20 Scorpio2012 wrote: actually, i guess what i was trying to say right at the start was, basically, from my point of view.. theres two Realities.. one being "the stage world" and one being "the back stage" and u can say "the stage world" can be likened to "the matrix" (yes like the movie)... and "the back stage" being "the real world" ..... so what makes The Real World is thought of a higher deeper sense and purpose, perhaps! ... so basically "the stage world" is based on systematic beliefs set and programed in ur mind based on "seperation and ego" ..... the New World or Back Stage Reality, is based on Truth, Oneness and Love and NO limitations... such as "the stage world" is all about limitations that ultimately imprison us
i think to connect with and be in the real world/back stage ... is to make up your own mind TOTALLY... which is to go WITHIN and search for your own reality and truth..... THIS, i believe, is what happened... to make us go in this one direction... HOWEVER it may be
On January 25 2008 06:30 Durak wrote: Can anyone tell me why drop screens occur in pro games? New to watching the leagues.
If your thinking lag, stop. It's just networking problems, sometimes if your playing lan games, you might have one person or two drop randomly. It's happened to me at lan parties as well.
I haven't had anyone drop out randomly playing LAN. Only had that issue with one friend but his computer seems to do it with every game. I assumed it was that.
- He said that there would be a re-game if the replay showed the Dark Templar had finished. Even if the DT was out, I would have won the game. It wouldn't have been odd at all if Bisu had typed GG right there. I was really stunned at the talk of a re-game in that kind of situation.
nub ref, common sense. There wasnt any cloak shadow, therefore no dt. If he had 1 why the fuck wont Bisu use it. Both gates dead, game set.
If free re-game were to happen, then some bm mother douchebag would just unplug the lan during or do anything to get a d/c secretly. I dont know if Bisu admits or not, but its either bm not admitting defeat or embarrassing to get a re-game. Good sportsmanship, but July's ceremony was crushed.
What an outrage that the referee was considering a regame if the DT had made it out. July still 100% to win with that many hydras in his base and Bisu no ability to produce more units or cannons. I have to agree with July that's just crazy.
On January 25 2008 07:32 NovaTheFeared wrote: What an outrage that the referee was considering a regame if the DT had made it out. July still 100% to win with that many hydras in his base and Bisu no ability to produce more units or cannons. I have to agree with July that's just crazy.
Hrmmm I think you have to regame if the DT gets out. Although July would have still been ahead, there's enough doubt about the outcome to say Bisu could have defended and got back into the game.
When the gate died though, Bisu had no chance to win. I think a D level Iccup player would have won from that position.
On January 25 2008 04:15 Scorpio2012 wrote: ... how fun
you're either stupid, arrogant/ignorant, blind, asleep.. the list could go on, but it really doesnt matter, we all be awake soon !!
this is just an alarm bell for all that watch and view.. ding dong.. time to pause.. time to see, time to think..... the new world (higher state of consciousness) is emerging and the old world is dying
how bizzare? how real? how cool and awesome really?? we can all talk as if this is just some blind random accident or (do u even know the story behind bisu and july? or/and bisu himself in his current life and all that, particularly his Pvz... etc etc etc!!)
like Klazart says in his commentary "you either adapt or die" ..... in that one little sense, thats so true (cmon bisu!!! silly dumbass hehe)..... or/and in a BIGGER PICTURE, its true.... How Do You Reason and Play with this one Reality/Situation? ...... time to play StarCraft in RealLife !! !! !! !!!!
open ur minds (creative intelligence), listen to ur hearts (soul), follow ur energy (spirit) ... its time to go back home...
this is a very complex and a varied post here, involving many dimensions-ideas-thoughts.. all mixed up, but man.... so much is happening!?? how can u swamp it all into one... ahhh well lets just see anyway
1st time he saw july went gas before pool is up. then 6 lings poped and killed his probe 2nd time he sent probe down mid lane and got raped by a line of well placed lings
july totally had the mind game set up. its bisu's own stupidity thinking sair/dt is gonna win him the game every time.
On January 25 2008 07:32 NovaTheFeared wrote: What an outrage that the referee was considering a regame if the DT had made it out. July still 100% to win with that many hydras in his base and Bisu no ability to produce more units or cannons. I have to agree with July that's just crazy.
Hrmmm I think you have to regame if the DT gets out. Although July would have still been ahead, there's enough doubt about the outcome to say Bisu could have defended and got back into the game.
When the gate died though, Bisu had no chance to win. I think a D level Iccup player would have won from that position.
How would he get back in the game exactly? He can't build anything and the rally of hydras from his hatcheries combined with the hydras already in would crush the exp. It would be a different story if Bisu maintained a gateway after one dt got out because multiple dts with sair could stop hydras before they killed him, one never could.
I agree with July here that there's no way Bisu could win and am shocked that a referee would call for a regame in such a situation. It's no wonder July looked upset during the talks after the disconnect.
On January 24 2008 23:33 Waxangel wrote: The entire coaching staff of T1 is to be reorganized... - I really didn't know until I read the article. The coach came and talked to me about it, and I didn't feel good about it at all. I've only just joined T1, and it doesn't sit well with me that he's leaving so soon. Today's just not a good day in general.
anyone has more info about this reorganization? T1 coach gone?
I was "really" looking forward to a July ceremony (probably involving, as someone forementioned, July drinking some Bacchus or w/e and bodyslamming a buncha people).
How many errors have been in proleague ones? I remember july in another situation, some hatchery bug so they got to re game and he won, other dude was pissed. But not even micro could get you out of bisu's situation, even with no overlord.
On January 25 2008 14:01 il0seonpurpose wrote: How many errors have been in proleague ones? I remember july in another situation, some hatchery bug so they got to re game and he won, other dude was pissed. But not even micro could get you out of bisu's situation, even with no overlord.
that match was July vs IntoTheRainbow and IntoTheRainbow was winning and the score was 1-0 and when he was winning July either accidently did the bug or something or he did it on purpose then when they did a remake July won then he was pissed cuz IntoTheRainbow could have won 2-0 against July
july can not have done that bug on purpose. based on blizzard's patch, which identified this bug, only occurs when a hatch is destroyed right when the morphing process is completed.
thus for this to happen, his opponent must time the scarab to explode at that exact moment. which is quite ironic lol.
On January 25 2008 16:22 dybydx wrote: july can not have done that bug on purpose. based on blizzard's patch, which identified this bug, only occurs when a hatch is destroyed right when the morphing process is completed.
thus for this to happen, his opponent must time the scarab to explode at that exact moment. which is quite ironic lol.
Could of sworn the bug was simply cancelling the hatchery when it was attacked at the exact same time.
Im suprized Bisu didnt "gg" after he dropped simply out of manners/good sportsmanship. I think he would have lost alot of respect had he taken a rematch in that position which he then won.
Erm, I thought the hatch bug was if you told a drone to build, then shift-queued a move command or something, then when you cancelled it caused the game to crash.
Edit - And Rainbow won that series 2-1 anyways, soo karma worked out.
Bisu has no input into the decision is 'taken' or not and him saying gg after the drop wouldn't have changed anything, as far as I can tell. Honestly, if a rematch was given and Bisu won, he's not the one at fault here. The Referee's ruling would have been.
On January 25 2008 14:01 il0seonpurpose wrote: How many errors have been in proleague ones? I remember july in another situation, some hatchery bug so they got to re game and he won, other dude was pissed. But not even micro could get you out of bisu's situation, even with no overlord.
that match was July vs IntoTheRainbow and IntoTheRainbow was winning and the score was 1-0 and when he was winning July either accidently did the bug or something or he did it on purpose then when they did a remake July won then he was pissed cuz IntoTheRainbow could have won 2-0 against July
I think i recall there has been another disconnect in a game, not that long ago (after 2006, when i started watching). Anyone have any idea what games had a disconnect and regame? I might be getting confused with re-game due to bugs or draws... but still.
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