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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
January 21 2008 12:31 GMT
#61
Terrible defence indeed! :DD

Hey, what is "optical wheel mouse" ?
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
January 21 2008 13:21 GMT
#62
[image loading]


winner
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 21 2008 14:58 GMT
#63
On January 21 2008 17:02 f10esqftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2008 16:02 mjh wrote:
jeez guys, "terrible" is sarcastic...as some posters have already noted


that was pretty amazing


Lots of people in this post apparently don't get sarcasm.

Edit:

Rephrase: It's hard not to take that personally, Zulu. I don't know how you decided this was the thread to mention it, anyway. And I'd like to see you find someplace where I said I was trying to teach anyone.

TBH I suspect you're one of the tons of people that have seen like 5 seconds of one of my vids and decides to randomly flame for some random thing.


Moletrap, from posting on forums and watching your commentaries, I highly doubt you were being sarcastic. Right after I posted that, as people on IRC can attest to, I immediately dug up you + diggity + klazart's triple commentary on the bisu vs jaedong blue storm game. I wanted to pick a good example to see if I was wrong to flame you guys or not. I've watched two previous games where both of you commentate before the bisu/jaedong one, because I thought Baezzi and VioletTak were the same person and you guys took his account. Anyways, I know that this is only one game, but I've created a list of the things you guys said that I disagree with. Klazart talked the most of course but he was only doing play by play for the most part while you and Diggity provided the color commentary/insight.


Ok I was gonna make a list but there was gonna be like 100 things so I'm not gonna bother. My position on your commentaries is this, I commend you guys for taking the time and effort to make English commentaries and doing something for the community, however as commentators you guys do not provide much insight and are plain wrong most of the time. What I'm worried about is if someone tried to learn from watching you guys provide insight that person will probably learn some pretty damaging stuff to his fundamentals. But as long as the audience know to take what you guys say with a grain of salt it's okay.


abandonallhope
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Sweden563 Posts
January 21 2008 15:21 GMT
#64
How is that good defense when he had to use like 8 swarms to get the terran out of there?
noobienoob
Profile Joined July 2007
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-21 15:55:09
January 21 2008 15:42 GMT
#65
The fact that he did it with like one defiler? Okay that's an exaggeration but GGPlay barely had any units, yet managed to hold back and eventually eliminate that huge force, and with minimal casualties. The circumstances behind the game only make the play more admirable (it was done during the final round of an OSL final).

I feel bad at how much this thread has derailed just because of the title.. =/
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Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
January 21 2008 15:46 GMT
#66
awesome as always!!
thanks MDT !
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
January 21 2008 18:13 GMT
#67
I'm allways impressed how defiler usage evolved over the last years. I mean it's one thing to just pre-load a defiler and then move in but under pressure with a terran moving around on stim like a madman and vessels all over the place.

I remember a game where a zerg consumed his overlord with lurkers in it. Shit doesn't happen every day but at some point it's like marine micro, one mistake and you probably get ripped apart.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 21 2008 18:19 GMT
#68
terrific!
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25993 Posts
January 21 2008 18:34 GMT
#69
On January 22 2008 00:21 abandonallhope wrote:
How is that good defense when he had to use like 8 swarms to get the terran out of there?


He didn't lose much. Who cares how long it takes?
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davidgurt
Profile Joined September 2006
United States1355 Posts
January 21 2008 19:30 GMT
#70
On January 21 2008 15:26 Waxangel wrote:
the funny thing is, the announcer who is the most vocal for all of that is sooo wrong, he's saying how ggplay is in such a bad situation and not noticing at all that ggplay defended his expo perfectly -_-


Agreed. I absolutely can't stand any of the American shoutcasters. I think they do a piss poor job because you can obviously tell that they don't understand the game as well as the vets here on TL.
There's crashing?
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
January 21 2008 20:04 GMT
#71
On January 21 2008 23:58 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2008 17:02 f10esqftw wrote:
On January 21 2008 16:02 mjh wrote:
jeez guys, "terrible" is sarcastic...as some posters have already noted


that was pretty amazing


Lots of people in this post apparently don't get sarcasm.

Edit:

Rephrase: It's hard not to take that personally, Zulu. I don't know how you decided this was the thread to mention it, anyway. And I'd like to see you find someplace where I said I was trying to teach anyone.

TBH I suspect you're one of the tons of people that have seen like 5 seconds of one of my vids and decides to randomly flame for some random thing.


Moletrap, from posting on forums and watching your commentaries, I highly doubt you were being sarcastic. Right after I posted that, as people on IRC can attest to, I immediately dug up you + diggity + klazart's triple commentary on the bisu vs jaedong blue storm game. I wanted to pick a good example to see if I was wrong to flame you guys or not. I've watched two previous games where both of you commentate before the bisu/jaedong one, because I thought Baezzi and VioletTak were the same person and you guys took his account. Anyways, I know that this is only one game, but I've created a list of the things you guys said that I disagree with. Klazart talked the most of course but he was only doing play by play for the most part while you and Diggity provided the color commentary/insight.


Ok I was gonna make a list but there was gonna be like 100 things so I'm not gonna bother. My position on your commentaries is this, I commend you guys for taking the time and effort to make English commentaries and doing something for the community, however as commentators you guys do not provide much insight and are plain wrong most of the time. What I'm worried about is if someone tried to learn from watching you guys provide insight that person will probably learn some pretty damaging stuff to his fundamentals. But as long as the audience know to take what you guys say with a grain of salt it's okay.




Okay, again going back I already said that my thing about GGPlay not deserving the OSL title was because it was a twist on my actual feeling, which is that he won because Iris folded and stopped playing at his peak part way through the last game. And TBH I was just trying to come up with a way that the play could be interpreted as "terrible." I thought it was exciting and I probably would have commented on both players dodging around each other.

I honestly don't have time to type a full blown disagreement with you, but I'll just say I think you're wrong. I'm honestly right a lot of the time. If you're going back several months, yes, I was a noob, but I'm not sure what forum posts you might be thinking of these days. And you know what else? When I'm commentating and I'm not sure about something, I usually say so..

I think a lot of people have things stuck in their head too much about how things are. They have lost sight of the fact that in starcraft, anything can happen.

You still haven't told me where you got the idea I was trying to teach anyone anything.
aka Moletrap
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
January 21 2008 20:14 GMT
#72
I thought it was pretty good defense actually, with the plagues and all.
ray1234
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada679 Posts
January 21 2008 20:38 GMT
#73
whoa dudes... sc is about peace and love... stop all tis hatin
go OVERSKY MODE!
abandonallhope
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Sweden563 Posts
January 21 2008 21:43 GMT
#74
On January 22 2008 03:34 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2008 00:21 abandonallhope wrote:
How is that good defense when he had to use like 8 swarms to get the terran out of there?


He didn't lose much. Who cares how long it takes?


I don't know actually. But what I mean is that he could probably have kept that terran out of that expo with like 2-3 well placed swarms instead of like 6-7. But yeah, it worked out for him so I guess it was good.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25993 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-21 21:51:31
January 21 2008 21:51 GMT
#75
On January 22 2008 06:43 abandonallhope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2008 03:34 Chill wrote:
On January 22 2008 00:21 abandonallhope wrote:
How is that good defense when he had to use like 8 swarms to get the terran out of there?


He didn't lose much. Who cares how long it takes?


I don't know actually. But what I mean is that he could probably have kept that terran out of that expo with like 2-3 well placed swarms instead of like 6-7. But yeah, it worked out for him so I guess it was good.


Care to elaborate? Most of the swarms looked properly placed to me, it's just he had so few units there's no way to force Terran to stand and fight rathter than constantly running.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13299 Posts
January 21 2008 22:37 GMT
#76
GGplay defended that attack beautifully.

Anyone who thinks otherwise just doesn't understand how difficult it is to defend a situation like that...
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27159 Posts
January 22 2008 04:34 GMT
#77
I edited the title because I think it was just a simple mistake.

zulu vs diggity + moletrap may continue in blogs or via PM.

Thank you.
ModeratorGodfather
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-22 04:38:19
January 22 2008 04:38 GMT
#78
That was awesome; pure art. I went and rewatched the game. Thanks mdt.
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
January 22 2008 04:49 GMT
#79
this thread is pretty good cuz it seperates the people who actually know whats happening in a game, and the people who dont know wats happening at all and get easily misguided by a simple title.

terrible defence. indeed.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27159 Posts
January 22 2008 04:51 GMT
#80
Seriously. Hannibal the Terrible didn't suck at kicking ass.
ModeratorGodfather
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