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ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States729 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-27 20:30:08
August 27 2024 20:26 GMT
#21
I need to say something to TMNT, but doing so will spoil the result of Group B.

+ Show Spoiler +
Okay TMNT, we saw Mini make 60 probes. He won. He looked good at it, pulling off some clutch micro with shuttle reaver in the style innovated by Snow. Blindly mine rushing against Nexus first was a poor strategic call, the economic lead was huge, and ssak never threatened any expos.

Mini looked very solid in his unchallenged execution of expanding when forced to by extremely passive play from the T.

I hereby admit I was wrong. Mini is technically capable of building more than 60 probes in PvT. But in my defense, ssak was so far behind in the early game that it's hard to feel as confident in Mini's ability to macro like that as compared to, say, Bisu. Admittedly, his shuttle reaver control was very good in his match against ssak.
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3158 Posts
August 27 2024 21:06 GMT
#22
On August 28 2024 05:26 ThunderJunk wrote:
I need to say something to TMNT, but doing so will spoil the result of Group B.

+ Show Spoiler +
Okay TMNT, we saw Mini make 60 probes. He won. He looked good at it, pulling off some clutch micro with shuttle reaver in the style innovated by Snow. Blindly mine rushing against Nexus first was a poor strategic call, the economic lead was huge, and ssak never threatened any expos.

Mini looked very solid in his unchallenged execution of expanding when forced to by extremely passive play from the T.

I hereby admit I was wrong. Mini is technically capable of building more than 60 probes in PvT. But in my defense, ssak was so far behind in the early game that it's hard to feel as confident in Mini's ability to macro like that as compared to, say, Bisu. Admittedly, his shuttle reaver control was very good in his match against ssak.

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I thought the "build more than 40/50/60 probes" thing was just a figure of speech? Didn't think you meant it in a literal sense.

If that's the case, you probably got that impression from watching a selective collection of his games in the ASL. He's more than capable of playing super late game and has done so plenty of times. It's just he likes to deliver the killing blow (or self implode) quicker than other Protoss players, so you don't often find lengthy games from Mini as the others. Maybe I can find some examples for you.

FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10393 Posts
August 27 2024 21:46 GMT
#23
All aboard the Snow hype train.
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8074 Posts
August 29 2024 16:20 GMT
#24
Clearly Sea[Shield], who else.
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-29 17:35:40
August 29 2024 17:30 GMT
#25
On August 30 2024 01:20 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Clearly Sea[Shield], who else.

Sea will prove to all the haters and doubters wrong.

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about mini and his shorter game times. He is a high risk high reward player because he limit tests as often as is humanly possibly, as long as there is a plausible reason to limit test. Why wait for an opportunity later on in the game when there is one right now? Mini takes the risks when he believes he can. He can definitely play long games very very well. This style can make his late game look bad sometimes because this style can backfire at times.
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art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1206 Posts
August 29 2024 18:56 GMT
#26
I like how the bot needed to post in the BW Section in order to bring us to the main page
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1112 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-29 21:08:21
August 29 2024 21:08 GMT
#27
Thinking that Mini's head asplode as soon as he get 61 probes when he is the fastest protoss among the pros, multi-task just as well as Bisu and is one of the best at decision making is stupid beyond imagination, and im being polite.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States729 Posts
August 29 2024 23:02 GMT
#28
On August 30 2024 02:30 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2024 01:20 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Clearly Sea[Shield], who else.

Sea will prove to all the haters and doubters wrong.

+ Show Spoiler +

about mini and his shorter game times. He is a high risk high reward player because he limit tests as often as is humanly possibly, as long as there is a plausible reason to limit test. Why wait for an opportunity later on in the game when there is one right now? Mini takes the risks when he believes he can. He can definitely play long games very very well. This style can make his late game look bad sometimes because this style can backfire at times.


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My favorite Mini finals was against Larva. Larva was practicing a all-out full-on amount, even surpassing Bisu at ZvP in the very lategame. Mini still got 3 games off Larva but the game he lost was the game he didn't plan to lose, and it was a lapse of his limit-testing style so described. Double Robo 2 base all-in.
By the time he was at set 7, he was demoralized and hopeless - knowing he had no chance against Larva on FS.

It was a super close series until that specific game, though. I believe it was set 5.
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LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1541 Posts
August 30 2024 07:14 GMT
#29
My prediction is Zerg NEVER winning a SOOP. I hope I'm proven wrong.
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Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova278 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-30 07:54:20
August 30 2024 07:45 GMT
#30
I'm always in favor of rotating champions each new season. This goes for both players and races.

If you count the last 18 seasons (17 ASL seasons and there was 1 tournament that effOrt won against Bisu, before ASL 1).

So, Terran has been ranked 1st 8 times, Zerg 7 times, and Protoss only 3 times.

So I want someone from Protoss to win this season.

SnOw has been to the finals 2 times, but never won. Bisu - 1 time, Best, Stork have not been to the finals.

So I want someone from those 4 to win the current ASL.

The Protoss have not won the ASL in the last 5 seasons. The last win in ASL 12 went to Mini.
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1112 Posts
August 30 2024 09:43 GMT
#31
When was Bisu in the finals ?
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
August 30 2024 10:01 GMT
#32
On August 30 2024 18:43 TornadoSteve wrote:
When was Bisu in the finals ?


In the one tournament that he mentioned where EffOrt beat Bisu before ASL 1
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
August 30 2024 11:32 GMT
#33
SK is legit just on another level to everyone else. Dude looks jaw droppingly good atm.
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Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
September 02 2024 09:23 GMT
#34
JD looks like he's in really good form. I think he can do it.
spets1
Profile Joined November 2009
136 Posts
September 02 2024 09:54 GMT
#35
Is there English cast live? Used to be nyoken on afreeca
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44272 Posts
September 06 2024 12:50 GMT
#36
Soulkey might still be the strongest
this is a quote
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey781 Posts
September 06 2024 16:54 GMT
#37
On September 02 2024 18:54 spets1 wrote:
Is there English cast live? Used to be nyoken on afreeca

https://www.sooplive.com/sctvenglish
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1220 Posts
September 06 2024 18:58 GMT
#38
On September 06 2024 21:50 goody153 wrote:
Soulkey might still be the strongest

Does feel like it based on his online play.
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