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GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
September 27 2007 21:09 GMT
#21
I guess my prediction of Bisu + Hwasin in the semis fails

In that case I have to say gooooo Bisu (because Terran sucks).

New prediction - Oov, Savior, Bisu, and B1 (either Ra or Stork).

Is it just be or is the lower left side of the bracket looking really easy? Canata and Xellos are both competent but nothing special, and Forgg isn't super impressive. I think whoever wins the B group has a royal (read: easy) road to the semis.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
September 27 2007 22:06 GMT
#22
Group 1 winner Oov
Oov > mind
July > Gorush

Oov > July (in a close one)

Group 2 winner Bisu
hwasin < Bisu (unless he is very creative)
light < Kwanro

Bisu > Kwanro

Group 3 winner Stork
Xellos > Canata

Stork > forgg

Stork >Xellos

Group 4 Winner Savior
Free >>> lomo
Savior > Nal_ra

Savior >>> Free

Group 1 v 4 Oov v Savior

Savior > Oov

Group 2 v 3
Stork v Bisu
Stork > Bisu (barely in a classic matchup)

Final Savior v Stork

Savior takes it.

Savior is playing very well. I definitely expect him in the final 4. Kwanro might pull an upset. Oov could easily lose to July.
IaniAniaN
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada555 Posts
September 27 2007 22:51 GMT
#23
The only game of Bisu vs Savior that didn't look like bisu raping him (he still won though) I've seen was on peaks of baekadu. But, I think with the current MSL maps the games would be that good. Especially since Katrina is so good for bisu's style.
Q(-_-Q)
Profile Joined August 2007
United States348 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-27 23:28:35
September 27 2007 22:56 GMT
#24
I think a lot of you are underestimating HwaSin (again). I think he may actually beat Bisu this time around. (He got sooo close last time)

So my Final 4
HwaSin
iloveoov
savior
Stork
SC2 = Alpha = End Balance Speculations?
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
September 27 2007 23:06 GMT
#25
I like how everybody assumes Stork is going to win group B. I hope Ra does ;/
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-28 01:57:43
September 27 2007 23:07 GMT
#26
On September 28 2007 01:34 SonuvBob wrote:
Ok, I was bored.

Last season's looked like this:

A1 vs F2
H1 vs C2

D1 vs G2
E1 vs B2

B1 vs E2
G1 vs D2

C1 vs H2
F1 vs A2

(A plays F, H plays C, D plays G, E plays B)


If it's the same this season it's:

(T)iloveoov vs (T)Mind
H1 vs C2

(P)free vs (T)Lomo
(Z)sAviOr vs B2

B1 vs (T)fOrGG
(T)XellOs vs (T)Canata

C1 vs H2
(T)Hwasin vs (P)Bisu

If that's the case, one player from each of the above pairs of games will end up in the semifinals.


only four people can go to semifinal

one player from each pair goes to quarterfinal

edit: hold on are they using a different setup this time around?
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
September 27 2007 23:10 GMT
#27
Sighhh Ra is gonna play Savior at RO16 I can feel it.

So many terrans tho: [
Broom
Q(-_-Q)
Profile Joined August 2007
United States348 Posts
September 27 2007 23:30 GMT
#28
On September 28 2007 08:06 GeneralStan wrote:
I like how everybody assumes Stork is going to win group B. I hope Ra does ;/


rA > stork? lol no way

not right now. he has been playing average at best. ffs he lost to oversky in proleague o_O
stork has been playing some solid games in the last year. not much you can say about rA in the last year
SC2 = Alpha = End Balance Speculations?
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
September 27 2007 23:33 GMT
#29
hwasin for OSL + MSL title
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
September 28 2007 01:28 GMT
#30
Bisu Stork Savior Sea
returns upon momentous occasions.
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-28 02:01:11
September 28 2007 01:54 GMT
#31
On September 28 2007 10:28 HonestTea wrote:
(P)Bisu (P)Stork (Z)sAviOr (T)Sea

Except (T)Hwasin has a good chance at beating (P)Bisu so

(T)Sea vs (Z)sAviOr (great game!)

(T)Hwasin/(P)Bisu vs (P)Stork (either one would be a great game.)

Looks like it could potentially be an awesome MSL.

Other than those guys the other players I think stand the best chance of making the final four would probably be

1. (Z)July
2. (T)iloveoov
3. (T)Light
4. (Z)GoRush
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
September 28 2007 03:11 GMT
#32
Oov > Sea

and stranger things have happened than Ra beating Stork
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
September 28 2007 03:28 GMT
#33
On September 28 2007 08:07 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2007 01:34 SonuvBob wrote:
Ok, I was bored.

Last season's looked like this:

A1 vs F2
H1 vs C2

D1 vs G2
E1 vs B2

B1 vs E2
G1 vs D2

C1 vs H2
F1 vs A2

(A plays F, H plays C, D plays G, E plays B)


If it's the same this season it's:

(T)iloveoov vs (T)Mind
H1 vs C2

(P)free vs (T)Lomo
(Z)sAviOr vs B2

B1 vs (T)fOrGG
(T)XellOs vs (T)Canata

C1 vs H2
(T)Hwasin vs (P)Bisu

If that's the case, one player from each of the above pairs of games will end up in the semifinals.


only four people can go to semifinal

one player from each pair goes to quarterfinal

edit: hold on are they using a different setup this time around?

Reread what I said.

And fix your mic.
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Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-28 06:41:04
September 28 2007 06:27 GMT
#34
I think Diggity's breakdown is pretty astute..

I think (T)Hwasin has a chance of beating (P)Bisu, but even if he does, (P)Stork > (T)Hwasin instead of (P)Stork > (P)Bisu.

I reeeeeeally want to see (P)Stork v (P)Bisu though at some point, preferably in the final four, although that would entail (P)Stork beating (Z)sAviOr, which is a long shot.

(T)Oov and (Z)sAviOr both seem to be back in form, which is exciting, but the groups we have left are a bit of a wild card. (T)Sea or (Z)July or even (Z)OversKy might pull something out... although I think (Z)July is the only one with a chance against (T)Oov, because (T)Sea tends to crack under Starleague pressure.

Anyways..
aka Moletrap
skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
September 28 2007 06:29 GMT
#35
Chingiz_Khan
Its not only the rain that brings the thunder
i.play.ZERG
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada276 Posts
September 28 2007 07:27 GMT
#36
(Z)sAviOr
(P)Bisu
(T)Oov
(P)Stork

(Z)sAviOr > (P)Bisu 3-0 in an epic show of Zerg dominance
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 28 2007 07:28 GMT
#37
On September 28 2007 15:27 f10esqftw wrote:
I think Diggity's breakdown is pretty astute..

I think (T)Hwasin has a chance of beating (P)Bisu, but even if he does, (P)Stork > (T)Hwasin instead of (P)Stork > (P)Bisu.

I reeeeeeally want to see (P)Stork v (P)Bisu though at some point, preferably in the final four, although that would entail (P)Stork beating (Z)sAviOr, which is a long shot.

(T)Oov and (Z)sAviOr both seem to be back in form, which is exciting, but the groups we have left are a bit of a wild card. (T)Sea or (Z)July or even (Z)OversKy might pull something out... although I think (Z)July is the only one with a chance against (T)Oov, because (T)Sea tends to crack under Starleague pressure.

Anyways..


it's not a matter of cracking under pressure. Sea doesn't get unnerved, don't you remember the proleague final with absolutely everything on the line? He was sent out for ace and he dominated.

Sea has run into a lair-focused management zerg with stellar muta micro in every league he's competed in, that's what's held him back. He struggles against this style of zerg.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Dyllyn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Singapore670 Posts
September 28 2007 07:53 GMT
#38
On September 28 2007 12:11 GeneralStan wrote:
Oov > Sea

and stranger things have happened than Ra beating Stork


damn right, oov will eat sea for breakfast.

nevermind the top 4 hwasin will win!
scv rush ftw
beyondie
Profile Joined September 2007
Niger112 Posts
September 28 2007 09:19 GMT
#39
On September 28 2007 07:51 IaniAniaN wrote:
The only game of Bisu vs Savior that didn't look like bisu raping him (he still won though) I've seen was on peaks of baekadu. But, I think with the current MSL maps the games would be that good. Especially since Katrina is so good for bisu's style.

Savior won Bisu in long cool game at Hitchhiker at Blizzard invitational
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-28 09:41:21
September 28 2007 09:40 GMT
#40
Bisu vs Hwasin is going to be very interesting, I wouldn't be surprised if Bisu handles the pressure better to win, but Hwasin will push him to the limits (and it's by no means an upset should he win. That game's balanced on a knife edge). Savior's dominance still extends to his ZvP, although someone strong at TvZ could take him out should he get to the Ro4, probably not before then however. OOv has showed some excellent TvT of Late, so that mystifies things even more.

I wouldn't be surprised however, if we see a Sea/Savior/Bisu/Stork Ro4, assuming Stork comes first in his group.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
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