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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5542 Posts
September 11 2007 06:49 GMT
#41
Stork is so high..
Switch him with July and take silent_control off the front page then I will be able to rest.

Really nice though, good work.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
September 11 2007 07:01 GMT
#42
the ranking is automated, there is no room for switching anything except the formula calculating it.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 11 2007 07:03 GMT
#43
woot go oov
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Silverflame
Profile Joined August 2006
United States428 Posts
September 11 2007 07:35 GMT
#44
Wow, Kosiro is on the front page. Not only does he have only 8 recorded matches, he's the same guy who messed up the Sandlot when he got Firefist to play for his own matches against Draco because he was drunk.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27178 Posts
September 11 2007 07:50 GMT
#45
kosiro can go to hell -_-
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-11 08:08:48
September 11 2007 08:08 GMT
#46
i dunno, elo works better for certain situations than others. you should try to see the predicative power of such a system as it si configured now. look at winning % in relation to elo difference between 2 players. might be a big project though
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
September 11 2007 08:18 GMT
#47
Rankings usually have numbers beside them indicating rank.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
September 11 2007 09:27 GMT
#48
On September 11 2007 17:18 MYM.Testie wrote:
Rankings usually have numbers beside them indicating rank.


Will be available shortly.
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gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2330 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-11 12:22:46
September 11 2007 12:18 GMT
#49
Nice to see this implemented. Like others have said, there's still room for tweaks/updates to the formulas, but I think the results are pretty reasonable as-is, and it's nice to finally have a less-subjective way of comparing players' strengths.
Furthermore, tournaments should use matchup-specific maps
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
September 23 2007 18:22 GMT
#50
The top ranks moved around a bit!
Hwasin first, Savior second, Stork dropping to third.
It'll be interesting to see how these ranks end up after the current season of leagues.
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
February 15 2008 02:05 GMT
#51
I was thinking about this. Starcraft is a lot different then other things because there are 3 races. Some players are very good at a certain MU and not as good on others. I think it would be more accurate to add in that factor. It would probably be better to have 3 different elo ratings per player (well, technically 9 in case someone off-races), and when they play another player, only that specific elo rating would be affected. The overall elo rating for the player would be the length of the vector (square root of the sum of the squares).

I'm not sure if you are still working on this, or if there are other rating systems that are specifically meant to deal with what I'm talking about.
Do you really want chat rooms?
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2330 Posts
February 15 2008 03:22 GMT
#52
Yes, I agree that having different ratings for each matchup (although the overall rating could stay as it is) would be very interesting. It would lead to higher peaks (and lower lows), since a player is rarely as good in all matchups as they are in their best (or as bad as they are in their worst), plus you could use it for things like seeing who's truly a one-matchup wonder, what a player's best MU actually is, making more accurate predictions of matches, etc.

I think they might have even implemented this in the background or something because I remember there was a post where a TL admin provided a graph of a player's rating over time in one particular matchup, or something like that.
Furthermore, tournaments should use matchup-specific maps
meemoe_uk
Profile Joined February 2008
United Kingdom29 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 17:29:53
January 26 2011 17:28 GMT
#53
Reason for bumping old thread : new idea

It strikes me there is a interest in the community for a measure of pro-players on the rise, and the power rank does not fully address this need.
For those who find the power rank to be too much dependant on speculation and opinion, it would be nice if the auto-analysis of the TL elo system were to be extended.
I'm talking; measuring derivatives and ranges of elo variation over time.

Can the relavent TL techys hear me on this frequency?


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