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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7222 Posts
September 10 2007 21:29 GMT
#21
This is a great feature and I hope that eventually we will have modified K value for winning more prestigious matches like OSL or MSL finals over simple qualification games.
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TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
September 10 2007 21:33 GMT
#22
On September 11 2007 06:19 GrandInquisitor wrote:
If I had known you guys were doing this I would have suggested Glicko-2, a modification of ELO ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glicko_rating_system ) instead; it's what's used on XBox Live and allows for Ratings Uncertainty and volatility and measures like that, making it in general far more accurate than plain vanilla ELO

Yeah, alot of other rated games now use Glicko instead of ELO nowadays.
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
September 10 2007 22:07 GMT
#23
W0w sweet...
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
LordofAscension
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States589 Posts
September 10 2007 22:22 GMT
#24
Very very awesome work. I'm impressed.

~LoA
~WelCoMe tO My rEaLm SC:L - sclegacy.com
OrderlyChaos
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1115 Posts
September 10 2007 22:26 GMT
#25
Very nice addition. I'm liking these new features :D
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
September 10 2007 22:29 GMT
#26
BoxeR and YellOw tied?

;P
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
September 10 2007 22:38 GMT
#27
For current rating that wouldn't be suprising at all
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
September 10 2007 23:19 GMT
#28
Glicko is not objectively better than ECO, they both have their up- and downsides.

Another great addition PoP, <3!
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
September 10 2007 23:21 GMT
#29
Heh, the top ~20 or so players are all also on the Kespa top 30.

Very nice feature for TLPD. ^.^
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
September 10 2007 23:23 GMT
#30
yellows peak was higher than boxers, thats quite surprising.
aka DTF-ZeRo
fuglyfrog
Profile Joined July 2007
United States521 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-10 23:49:44
September 10 2007 23:36 GMT
#31
Isn't there a problem with inflation when comparing the peak ELO of players from different eras?

edit: I've heard that the Chessmetric system is supposed to be the best at calculating the relative historical rating of players.

Also, there's a fomula for factoring in the overall strength of the tournament into the ratings.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
September 11 2007 00:00 GMT
#32
Glicko is pretty much universally considered better than ELO; it's basically admitting that ratings are wildly variable in certain cases.

It's a pain to describe, though, and it's kind of more complicated. Check http://math.bu.edu/people/mg/glicko/glicko.doc/glicko.html out (the original glicko webpage), and just think whether or not it's worth it. I think it is; others might not.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-11 00:25:50
September 11 2007 00:25 GMT
#33
Aaah thats a great thing to add. You guys rule.
I really like ELO and stats.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
Waves
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia185 Posts
September 11 2007 01:55 GMT
#34
Another great feature. I'm really impressed with all the work on this site.

I'll add my voice to those calling for Glicko2, if it's not too much trouble.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
September 11 2007 02:03 GMT
#35
You guys make progaming so much.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
September 11 2007 04:12 GMT
#36
(T)DarkElf is HOT
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
September 11 2007 04:26 GMT
#37
What does ELO stand for? Interesting though
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
September 11 2007 04:27 GMT
#38
Electronic Light Orchestra
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
September 11 2007 04:30 GMT
#39
On September 11 2007 13:27 A3iL3r0n wrote:
Electronic Light Orchestra


I thought it was Extreme Logistic Order
Waves
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia185 Posts
September 11 2007 06:24 GMT
#40
On September 11 2007 13:26 il0seonpurpose wrote:
What does ELO stand for? Interesting though


It doesn't actually stand for anything. As mentioned earlier in this thread, it's just the last name of the guy who invented this rating system.
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