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seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-05 17:06:32
September 16 2021 02:50 GMT
#1
The Project

The goal of this project is to get the most comprehensive ranking of foreign players based on their actual results starting with the launch of Starcraft Remastered on August 14, 2017. We are incorporating every foreign event that has taken place. As I write this post we have finished the year 2017 and have gone all the way up to Bombastic Starleague 3. This being the first major foreign event that includes players from all regions made it a good place to aim for before going public. And here are the results:
Leaderboard as 01-21-2018

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Leaderboard as 31-12-2018

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https://braacket.com/league/SCR17/dashboard

Attempts have been made to provide a foreigner ELO system before, but none have succeeded long term. We aim to fix the shortcomings of the previous systems.

Features:
- More detailed player profile
- Head to head table
- Exclusion of Koreans
- Exclusion of walkovers
- Inclusion of as many foreign events as possible
- Eventually up to date and updated frequently

How It Works

Glicko Rating System
-So long as a tournament is from Smash.gg or challonge, the import system does it automatically. Otherwise the results have to be input manually.
-Merging players when identifying a smurf/clan tag/other aka is easy fortunately.
-The date the event took place is what determines its results' effect on the ranking, not when it was added to the league.
-Matches from korean players are sometimes added but excluded. When a match or player is excluded it does not affect the rankings in any way.
-All Koreans are excluded except for Scan who is only 'Hidden'. His matches do affect the rankings, but he is not shown on the leaderboard, head-to-head table or anywhere else. Reason for this is because unlike other Koreans Scan has participated in enough events to have a meaningful impact.

Going Forward

How you can help: The goal from here is to continue updating until we are all caught up. Additionally we need help Identifying smurfs/other akas, adding flags, and adding events that are missing or aren't on liquipedia. Currently all that is missing from 2017 is week 8 of Pan American Team League and all of SK Teamleague. Teamleagues are the hardest to track down and BWCL/STPL will be included so access to those results will be helpful.

Thanks to DragOn, Shoop & RuDeGirL for helping make this possible.

ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
794 Posts
September 16 2021 03:18 GMT
#2
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masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
September 16 2021 06:18 GMT
#3
Good Job!
g0rynich
Profile Joined October 2016
Russian Federation139 Posts
September 16 2021 06:42 GMT
#4
i really really liked it.
Good Job!
ledvanas
Profile Joined September 2021
1 Post
September 16 2021 07:53 GMT
#5
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
September 16 2021 07:54 GMT
#6
ourplay = Gargoyle - he's from kazakhstan afaik
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
September 16 2021 07:54 GMT
#7
Bonyth #1 btw
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2037 Posts
September 16 2021 10:49 GMT
#8
Did you get all the data from https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/524995-foreigners-elo-ranking? There was so much..
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-16 13:26:28
September 16 2021 12:41 GMT
#9
Well not sure it helps but heres players and games in SQL and Opensheet format, players list might be useful for you, and if u sort by AKA, there is a few of them also. On first sight i c u have Maratonczyk (Mazur), and GlomySC2 (Avi-Love) .

Good luck and have fun.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15d--r94Po8TqISgcvtg6qs4HBNHO943l/view?usp=sharing, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IN4WiZb3cMuUQ666MiCfdWwE3edxHVha/view?usp=sharing, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cja-6-Nv7lLMgKrnyFUg7dqvEbzqwSc4/view?usp=sharing, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xvr33S8A9_QyCP8E5RgBaeJWSyZgiunx/view?usp=sharing

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hwEkui5kaA3UCIfBhq2o4eLNBmubWijJ/view?usp=sharing

@KogeT 18,806 games
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
CadenZie
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)545 Posts
September 16 2021 14:43 GMT
#10
but updated seriositys tier list when
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1433 Posts
September 16 2021 15:33 GMT
#11
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

I was going to say "and u can check number 1337 is LUCKY_NOOB"

Turns out tho:

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Result Score Date
Clash for Char #5 - Single Elim Tournament
Lose vs Nb.Drake 0-2 2017-09-23
Tournaments history (1)
Name Rank Date
Clash for Char #5 - Single Elim Tournament 33 / 40 2017-09-24
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
September 16 2021 15:44 GMT
#12
Very nice project
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
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seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
September 16 2021 16:52 GMT
#13
(Wiki)Leagues/Full Tournaments List

This is the link I used to find tours.
Also if there is a weird result like -1/-2 and its excluded it's because when adding a tour i forgot to uncheck the box for including a third place match. I then had to include a match that didnt take place to complete the tour (as opposed to starting all over). But these matches don't affect rankings or statistics.
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
September 16 2021 21:32 GMT
#14
On September 16 2021 11:50 seriosity wrote:
Teamleagues are the hardest to track down and BWCL/STPL will be included so access to those results will be helpful.


Does that mean you have no access to the results? For STPL I would just send Qikz a message. I think he has them all in some software and could possibly export it?

For BWCL I have a few of the old seasons saved in my favourites:
49: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Jl5Ig8EyW_AhnjkROGBjVEdjLIzxqBQNRJTIXoRD0EQ/edit#gid=1774490385
50: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OKQMKh1lhdMCPLaBrTuEB_JEuR2QFxZYtn3tH67s7kE/edit#gid=143186381
51: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19jzxf6v8XIDE9S0c2ol_30jZF4GsyeeojiQLSprkSKs/edit#gid=143186381
52: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1my04Georv6zD4by873MSWF7AhIW28VT-9WygrM-IYuE/edit#gid=143186381
53: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L3ZJvcez-O4ow2qryXZNGlArwu2p9sZXXUaIsvQEop0/edit#gid=0
54 (starting on Sunday): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L3ZJvcez-O4ow2qryXZNGlArwu2p9sZXXUaIsvQEop0/edit#gid=0

Note that Season 50's sheet is called "BWCL 51", season 51's sheet is called "BWCL 52" - if you click on "Liquipedia" on the "Standings"-Tab it shows you the correct season. There is just some naming error. Noticeable as the two sheets both named as "BWCL 52" have different data in there.
LML
Rovant1c
Profile Joined October 2014
China72 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-19 03:00:13
September 19 2021 02:59 GMT
#15
Hello Good Job! But do foreigners include Chinese?

Although I know that Chinese players rarely participate in foreign events.
seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
September 20 2021 19:29 GMT
#16
On September 19 2021 11:59 Rovant1c wrote:
Hello Good Job! But do foreigners include Chinese?

Although I know that Chinese players rarely participate in foreign events.


There are only a handful of events with Chinese players and other foreigners, so little point in including them
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 20 2021 21:53 GMT
#17
Russia rules baby!
sunbeams are never made like me...
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
September 21 2021 00:53 GMT
#18
Hey guys, we are almost done 2018.
If anyone knows akas or flags of these people, please let us know:
CjTerry (played in zotac SA qualifiers)
sjukungen (played in TL open)
Santi (played in quite a few TL opens, clash for chars and some others)
VegaNinja (played in zotac NA qualifiers)
aka DragOn[NaS]
seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
October 05 2021 17:10 GMT
#19
2018 is now complete ending with STPL round 3 playoffs and BSL5. Other major events that year were Pro series and BSL4.
select_clothes1444
Profile Joined July 2021
22 Posts
October 06 2021 14:09 GMT
#20
yay, great project! keep up the..."good" work
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3363 Posts
October 06 2021 14:20 GMT
#21
On September 17 2021 06:32 LML wrote:
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On September 16 2021 11:50 seriosity wrote:
Teamleagues are the hardest to track down and BWCL/STPL will be included so access to those results will be helpful.


Does that mean you have no access to the results? For STPL I would just send Qikz a message. I think he has them all in some software and could possibly export it?

For BWCL I have a few of the old seasons saved in my favourites:
49: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Jl5Ig8EyW_AhnjkROGBjVEdjLIzxqBQNRJTIXoRD0EQ/edit#gid=1774490385
50: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OKQMKh1lhdMCPLaBrTuEB_JEuR2QFxZYtn3tH67s7kE/edit#gid=143186381
51: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19jzxf6v8XIDE9S0c2ol_30jZF4GsyeeojiQLSprkSKs/edit#gid=143186381
52: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1my04Georv6zD4by873MSWF7AhIW28VT-9WygrM-IYuE/edit#gid=143186381
53: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L3ZJvcez-O4ow2qryXZNGlArwu2p9sZXXUaIsvQEop0/edit#gid=0
54 (starting on Sunday): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L3ZJvcez-O4ow2qryXZNGlArwu2p9sZXXUaIsvQEop0/edit#gid=0

Note that Season 50's sheet is called "BWCL 51", season 51's sheet is called "BWCL 52" - if you click on "Liquipedia" on the "Standings"-Tab it shows you the correct season. There is just some naming error. Noticeable as the two sheets both named as "BWCL 52" have different data in there.


S53 results maybe a bit messed up due to the way we set the drive for s54. We re looking into it.
Horang2 fan
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
October 06 2021 21:00 GMT
#22
On October 06 2021 23:20 WGT-Baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2021 06:32 LML wrote:
On September 16 2021 11:50 seriosity wrote:
Teamleagues are the hardest to track down and BWCL/STPL will be included so access to those results will be helpful.


Does that mean you have no access to the results? For STPL I would just send Qikz a message. I think he has them all in some software and could possibly export it?

For BWCL I have a few of the old seasons saved in my favourites:
49: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Jl5Ig8EyW_AhnjkROGBjVEdjLIzxqBQNRJTIXoRD0EQ/edit#gid=1774490385
50: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OKQMKh1lhdMCPLaBrTuEB_JEuR2QFxZYtn3tH67s7kE/edit#gid=143186381
51: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19jzxf6v8XIDE9S0c2ol_30jZF4GsyeeojiQLSprkSKs/edit#gid=143186381
52: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1my04Georv6zD4by873MSWF7AhIW28VT-9WygrM-IYuE/edit#gid=143186381
53: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L3ZJvcez-O4ow2qryXZNGlArwu2p9sZXXUaIsvQEop0/edit#gid=0
54 (starting on Sunday): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L3ZJvcez-O4ow2qryXZNGlArwu2p9sZXXUaIsvQEop0/edit#gid=0

Note that Season 50's sheet is called "BWCL 51", season 51's sheet is called "BWCL 52" - if you click on "Liquipedia" on the "Standings"-Tab it shows you the correct season. There is just some naming error. Noticeable as the two sheets both named as "BWCL 52" have different data in there.


S53 results maybe a bit messed up due to the way we set the drive for s54. We re looking into it.


yea, I saw that last week, too. I sent a message in the BWCL discord but I didn't get a reply whether anyone has saved the scores somewhere.
LML
seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
October 07 2021 06:08 GMT
#23
Incorporating BWCL 47 now...so still far away from that :D

I was able to do some of bwcl via iccup but 47 and on is a lot easier
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria484 Posts
October 07 2021 20:36 GMT
#24
Love this! OD forever <3
music is the best thing in the world
CadenZie
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)545 Posts
December 12 2021 20:09 GMT
#25
is this still getting updated?
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
December 13 2021 00:42 GMT
#26
yes, we are working on it continuously to get up to date. New tournaments are added every week.
aka DragOn[NaS]
engineNOVA
Profile Joined April 2021
United States67 Posts
December 16 2021 16:50 GMT
#27
Good stuff, guys. Keep it up!
With lings like these, who needs friends?
seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
February 01 2022 08:14 GMT
#28
Still steadily grinding away. About 98% complete with everything up till 2020. BWCL takes a while now with the 6 divisions but it's slowly being filled up as we do all the other events.

Starting 2021, which seems like the most active year. Goal is to be done with 2021 and all caught up soon.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
February 09 2022 07:00 GMT
#29
Hey. Do you still need any Pan American Team League info? I’ve been MIA for awhile but send me a PM and I’ll check my Google drive for anything you’re missing from when I ran it.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
namkraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2021
449 Posts
February 09 2022 07:05 GMT
#30
Just out of curiosity. If Bonyth is the No.1 foreign player, which Korean player is he comparable to?
Broodwar Forever
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1166 Posts
February 09 2022 07:26 GMT
#31
On February 09 2022 16:05 namkraft wrote:
Just out of curiosity. If Bonyth is the No.1 foreign player, which Korean player is he comparable to?


I guess the comparable Korean player's identity is not known to us - just because he is not so famous with such skill.
Koreans are another world, dude
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
February 09 2022 16:26 GMT
#32
On February 09 2022 16:00 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Hey. Do you still need any Pan American Team League info? I’ve been MIA for awhile but send me a PM and I’ll check my Google drive for anything you’re missing from when I ran it.


Sure. We have all of the weeks but some are missing matches.
seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
February 09 2022 16:30 GMT
#33
On February 09 2022 16:26 BlueStar wrote:
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On February 09 2022 16:05 namkraft wrote:
Just out of curiosity. If Bonyth is the No.1 foreign player, which Korean player is he comparable to?


I guess the comparable Korean player's identity is not known to us - just because he is not so famous with such skill.
Koreans are another world, dude


Matches vs koreans are excluded from the league with a few exceptions; Scan being one of them. He is higher than all foreigners
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
February 10 2022 04:13 GMT
#34
On February 10 2022 01:26 seriosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2022 16:00 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Hey. Do you still need any Pan American Team League info? I’ve been MIA for awhile but send me a PM and I’ll check my Google drive for anything you’re missing from when I ran it.


Sure. We have all of the weeks but some are missing matches.


What cha need specifically?
So wait? I'm bad? =(
seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
May 19 2022 00:35 GMT
#35
ALMOST Done.

BWCL 55 is the only major event missing. Anything that's happened in the past week is also being added usually within the same week. It's still chugging along and not forgotten.

Now including Chinese players (and their events).
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
May 19 2022 17:41 GMT
#36
that's a spicy meatball.

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