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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-14 19:46:51
June 14 2021 19:45 GMT
#1
Part 1:


Part 2:


Mini's final build explanation:
+ Show Spoiler +
mini: I was trying to decide from inbase 99gate/proxy center 99gate. Reason behind center 99gate was because

1. I first spawned on 7o'clock left side, which is spawn where you can't mine minerals optimized.

2. If im on the left spawn, its 2/3 chance that Larva will be on right spawn, and since right spawn can mine minerals optimized and really well, most zergs tend to do 12h. And after analyzing Larva games, he seemed to go for it most of time. Thats why I did center 99gate. I knew that he doesn't go for overpool because he tended to like going 12h and Soma, who was helping him practice liked 9pool a lot and he probably forced Larva to practice tons of 9pool ahead of time. So we have a player that will probably go 9pool or 12h. Who would go overpool when you prefer those 2?
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8514 Posts
June 14 2021 20:14 GMT
#2
Jinjin You are an absolute legend !!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-14 20:37:19
June 14 2021 20:34 GMT
#3
Thank you i love you jinjin
I'm reposting your comment on Reddit for people who might miss it:
This ASL really was just perfect combinations of storms to hit the 250k viewers.

There was a lot of league streamers switching to BW to give it boost in popularity, and Dopa (#1 league) personally appeared in Bisu x Sea stream right before Larva vs Mini finals to hype it up
On top of that, this ASL finals just had amazing storyline.

There's Mini, who was a mini-revolutionary and hope of protoss with incredible mindgames and his never-before-seen perfectly optimized no-scout gateway first speedlot timings, which had just destroyed the top ASL dominating Queen with his seemingly unstoppable build.

On other hand, there's Larva, who climbed out from nothing, being no-name dishwasher for SKT, defeating numerous health problems, rising back up after failures after failures, and growing into a top Zerg and "making it" with YouTube success and loving family and daughter.

Also helps that Larva does have near 1m subscriber YouTube channel and Mini rose in popularity recently with his blindfold starcraft content on top of surge in popularity with many korean league players playing BW. On top of that, it was a nailbiter full set, so it was able to hit ASL historic high, beating even FlaSh vs JaeDong ASL S2 with 250k viewers.

Korean daily peak increased from 20k previously to 35k now with all the new/returning players, and streamers like FBH went back to creating content aimed for new players sensing this.

Larva's channel released 2 part video, so 2nd part will be released later. Its a long 15 min video so...


Damn i had no idea larva was a dishwasher or he was so popular. I'm so happy for him and I've been rooting for him since i saw a few of his games Vs flash in the dual fpvod channel.

I didn't know mini did blindfold StarCraft either. Would someone please link me a video? I can't find it.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8514 Posts
June 14 2021 21:49 GMT
#4


Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1445 Posts
June 14 2021 22:43 GMT
#5
LOL @ Pusan and his zergling-impression (?), greedy ol bastard xD
Nematocyst
Profile Joined October 2017
United States164 Posts
June 15 2021 03:21 GMT
#6
Calm: Do I look like a sh*tter to you, Horang2?

I'm assuming they're friends and always bantering... rembering after Calm won Ro16 ASLS7, and when it was pointed out he may face Horang2 in Ro8... Calm innocently stated he'd be going to the semi-finals in that case.
Volka
Profile Joined December 2010
Argentina411 Posts
June 15 2021 05:00 GMT
#7
Nice! Thank you for this.
http://www.starsite.com.ar
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 15 2021 06:23 GMT
#8
On June 15 2021 06:49 prosatan wrote:
https://youtu.be/u3nj1NjyO9g


thanks!
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[Fin]Vittu
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada507 Posts
June 15 2021 16:04 GMT
#9
Can someone tell me what is going on here and what is he doing?
https://youtu.be/KshzNXOUnHM?t=592
The "Finnish Metal Terran"
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1471 Posts
June 15 2021 19:54 GMT
#10
On June 16 2021 01:04 [Fin]Vittu wrote:
Can someone tell me what is going on here and what is he doing?
https://youtu.be/KshzNXOUnHM?t=592


zergling attacking imitation
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3103 Posts
June 15 2021 22:52 GMT
#11
Love it. So much thanks to jinjin
RWLabs
Profile Joined March 2017
Korea (South)273 Posts
June 16 2021 01:51 GMT
#12
On June 15 2021 05:34 JieXian wrote:
Thank you i love you jinjin
I'm reposting your comment on Reddit for people who might miss it:
Show nested quote +
This ASL really was just perfect combinations of storms to hit the 250k viewers.

There was a lot of league streamers switching to BW to give it boost in popularity, and Dopa (#1 league) personally appeared in Bisu x Sea stream right before Larva vs Mini finals to hype it up
On top of that, this ASL finals just had amazing storyline.

There's Mini, who was a mini-revolutionary and hope of protoss with incredible mindgames and his never-before-seen perfectly optimized no-scout gateway first speedlot timings, which had just destroyed the top ASL dominating Queen with his seemingly unstoppable build.

On other hand, there's Larva, who climbed out from nothing, being no-name dishwasher for SKT, defeating numerous health problems, rising back up after failures after failures, and growing into a top Zerg and "making it" with YouTube success and loving family and daughter.

Also helps that Larva does have near 1m subscriber YouTube channel and Mini rose in popularity recently with his blindfold starcraft content on top of surge in popularity with many korean league players playing BW. On top of that, it was a nailbiter full set, so it was able to hit ASL historic high, beating even FlaSh vs JaeDong ASL S2 with 250k viewers.

Korean daily peak increased from 20k previously to 35k now with all the new/returning players, and streamers like FBH went back to creating content aimed for new players sensing this.

Larva's channel released 2 part video, so 2nd part will be released later. Its a long 15 min video so...


Damn i had no idea larva was a dishwasher or he was so popular. I'm so happy for him and I've been rooting for him since i saw a few of his games Vs flash in the dual fpvod channel.

I didn't know mini did blindfold StarCraft either. Would someone please link me a video? I can't find it.

Just an FYI in Korean culture the dishwashing duties are for the lowest in rank (or age) in any group. This is why Larva was teased as a dishwasher as he never got very far in SK T1. I doubt he was a literal paid dishwasher in his life.
Aldaris was the good guy of Brood War.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
June 16 2021 20:33 GMT
#13
Best thing to watch after work, especially when ASL is over and we need to wait months before next one. Jinjin you rock!
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