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Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-07 20:58:57
March 27 2021 14:47 GMT
#1
Who do you guys predict will win ASL11?

I think Effort, Zero and Snow have the best chance to win the whole thing.

And who do you guys think will do better than they normally do? Will Mini finally play well offline? Will Best make a finals appearance? Will we see Shine’s bag of builds advance him again?

Poll: Who do you think will win ASL11?

Zero (15)
 
23%

Bisu (13)
 
20%

Soma (9)
 
14%

Rush (5)
 
8%

Best (3)
 
5%

Snow (3)
 
5%

Effort (2)
 
3%

Larva (2)
 
3%

JyJ (2)
 
3%

Light (2)
 
3%

Sorry (2)
 
3%

Sharp (1)
 
2%

ggaemo (1)
 
2%

Shuttle (1)
 
2%

Piano (1)
 
2%

Mini (1)
 
2%

hani (1)
 
2%

Hero (1)
 
2%

Mong (0)
 
0%

MisO (0)
 
0%

65 total votes

Your vote: Who do you think will win ASL11?

(Vote): Hero
(Vote): Effort
(Vote): Sorry
(Vote): Light
(Vote): JyJ
(Vote): Best
(Vote): Snow
(Vote): Shuttle
(Vote): Sharp
(Vote): ggaemo
(Vote): Bisu
(Vote): Piano
(Vote): Mini
(Vote): hani
(Vote): Mong
(Vote): MisO
(Vote): Zero
(Vote): Soma
(Vote): Rush
(Vote): Larva


[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6634 Posts
March 27 2021 15:25 GMT
#2
Soma
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2832 Posts
March 27 2021 15:30 GMT
#3
Zero hasn't been great lately on sponmatch, but he always turns up in big tournaments. Effort isn't what he was pre-military so no chance.

Snow is way overrated. Best is the best Protoss right now but he always chokes in offline tournaments. In fact, Protoss would feel proud if anyone of them can make the top 8.

It's between Zero, Soma, Light and Rush.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1189 Posts
March 27 2021 15:46 GMT
#4
Zero is still main favorite.

Other people that I think could win: Bisu, Soma, Rush, Light.

There is no other player that has a chance imo.

If someone is to win from the second group a bunch of things have to happen: Like Zero losing some ZvZs, Bisu getting a nice favorable draw, Soma getting a road paved with Protoss etc...

Although this ASL is Flash-less I don't think the road to a title is as wide open as it might seem.
bracala
Profile Joined August 2019
95 Posts
March 27 2021 16:30 GMT
#5
Soma,Zero or Rush. Rush look really strong,but i think Zerg is favorite to win ASL!
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 27 2021 16:33 GMT
#6
I wanna see my boy Rush to become ASL11ChampRush, guy is improving drastically each season.
I wanted so much BeSt to grab a trophy but lately I'm losing my hope , there's a chance he will choke again this time.

I don't belive Bisu will make it far after last seasons performance, I don't remember him going out at the easiest ro24 in a decade. In reality I think it goes to ZerO, Light or SoMa. Light and SoMa both deserve it so much.
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whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
March 27 2021 16:35 GMT
#7
On March 28 2021 00:46 oxKnu wrote:
Zero is still main favorite.

Other people that I think could win: Bisu, Soma, Rush, Light.

There is no other player that has a chance imo.

If someone is to win from the second group a bunch of things have to happen: Like Zero losing some ZvZs, Bisu getting a nice favorable draw, Soma getting a road paved with Protoss etc...

Although this ASL is Flash-less I don't think the road to a title is as wide open as it might seem.


I think Bisu has much less pressure this time around. Unlike in the past I think he is THE favorite. Zero and Soma also, even if Zero has slump as you said he seems to do always well offline. If Rush fixes his tvp then I think he can go far. Same for Light if he fixes his tvt.
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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1189 Posts
March 27 2021 16:46 GMT
#8
Zero is just fooling around guys. When the tournament is on, he will start humiliating people as we've seen before.
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1768 Posts
March 27 2021 18:10 GMT
#9
Nobody suggesting BeSt? Hasn't he been playing mad good lately?
LML
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1189 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-27 18:30:13
March 27 2021 18:29 GMT
#10
On March 28 2021 03:10 LML wrote:
Nobody suggesting BeSt? Hasn't he been playing mad good lately?


He just got smashed by Soma in a bo9 on these ASL maps.

Best is only favorite if the tournament is exclusively restricted to PvT with at least Bo7 in every round.
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
March 27 2021 18:30 GMT
#11
heart says ggaemo or bisu
head says soma or zero
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
March 27 2021 18:54 GMT
#12
Soma
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
March 27 2021 18:57 GMT
#13
Seeing people telling the choke artist always delivers in big tournaments just shows how terrible people's memory is.

Haven't check out the maps for this season. Are they as damaging as last season's?
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3683 Posts
March 27 2021 18:58 GMT
#14
Definitely a Zerg, they have real momentum lately. Especially with Flash not playing.
dsaqwe..
Profile Joined April 2020
34 Posts
March 27 2021 19:41 GMT
#15
sSinz
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10010 Posts
March 27 2021 20:14 GMT
#16
light
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oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
March 27 2021 20:28 GMT
#17
Hero is my darkhorse, but i guess it will be Zero or Rush (rooting for Best anyway, like each season, allthough its pretty painful, hehe)
diggurd
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Norway346 Posts
March 28 2021 00:38 GMT
#18
On March 28 2021 03:29 oxKnu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2021 03:10 LML wrote:
Nobody suggesting BeSt? Hasn't he been playing mad good lately?


He just got smashed by Soma in a bo9 on these ASL maps.

Best is only favorite if the tournament is exclusively restricted to PvT with at least Bo7 in every round.


is there a vod of this bo9? <3
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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1189 Posts
March 28 2021 00:46 GMT
#19
On March 28 2021 09:38 diggurd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2021 03:29 oxKnu wrote:
On March 28 2021 03:10 LML wrote:
Nobody suggesting BeSt? Hasn't he been playing mad good lately?


He just got smashed by Soma in a bo9 on these ASL maps.

Best is only favorite if the tournament is exclusively restricted to PvT with at least Bo7 in every round.


is there a vod of this bo9? <3


https://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/70421276
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10193 Posts
March 28 2021 01:37 GMT
#20
Scan
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4338 Posts
March 28 2021 03:12 GMT
#21
I am hoping Scan does well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
March 28 2021 04:21 GMT
#22
Best.... Really hope he finally wins his 1st championship.... With this tournament so terran heavy, seems possible though....
Oppa feeding style
SouL)Z(Silver
Profile Joined September 2019
Russian Federation347 Posts
March 28 2021 06:00 GMT
#23
Soma
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KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
March 28 2021 07:43 GMT
#24
Scan
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50389 Posts
March 28 2021 07:52 GMT
#25
someone
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R3ubarks
Profile Joined April 2020
13 Posts
March 28 2021 08:33 GMT
#26
Scan, Light, Rush
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States352 Posts
March 28 2021 08:44 GMT
#27
rush was a crank in the wildcard match, rooting for him.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
March 28 2021 08:46 GMT
#28
Rush
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att
Profile Joined March 2020
128 Posts
March 28 2021 08:56 GMT
#29
Scan, our local homeboy lets all root for him!! Scan lets go!!
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1460 Posts
March 28 2021 09:00 GMT
#30
Queen (he is only ZerO if he loses), EffOrt, Light (only because of TESAGI) and "The Monstrous Progeny of Capitalism" Sharp who's another person who's actually won an ASL. But this is a Zerg favoured tournament and I LOVE IT!
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 28 2021 10:45 GMT
#31
Brain says Zero but I'd really like BeSt/EffOrt/Scan take it 8)
Mine gas, build tanks.
Zaibakk
Profile Joined May 2017
101 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-28 12:01:14
March 28 2021 12:00 GMT
#32
On March 28 2021 00:30 TMNT wrote:
Zero hasn't been great lately on sponmatch, but he always turns up in big tournaments. Effort isn't what he was pre-military so no chance.

Snow is way overrated. Best is the best Protoss right now but he always chokes in offline tournaments. In fact, Protoss would feel proud if anyone of them can make the top 8.

It's between Zero, Soma, Light and Rush.


Yes, I also think between those 4.
There are no protoss right now able to beat Zero or Soma in a BO5+, it's not impossible but very unlikely.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
March 28 2021 12:03 GMT
#33
I think it's likely going to be ZerO again but I'd absolutely love for Best to win.
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
March 28 2021 14:38 GMT
#34
Light
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1189 Posts
March 28 2021 15:18 GMT
#35
On March 28 2021 21:00 Zaibakk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2021 00:30 TMNT wrote:
Zero hasn't been great lately on sponmatch, but he always turns up in big tournaments. Effort isn't what he was pre-military so no chance.

Snow is way overrated. Best is the best Protoss right now but he always chokes in offline tournaments. In fact, Protoss would feel proud if anyone of them can make the top 8.

It's between Zero, Soma, Light and Rush.


There are no protoss right now able to beat Zero or Soma in a BO5+, it's not impossible but very unlikely.


Bisu can comfortably do it.

TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2832 Posts
March 28 2021 22:06 GMT
#36
On March 29 2021 00:18 oxKnu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2021 21:00 Zaibakk wrote:
On March 28 2021 00:30 TMNT wrote:
Zero hasn't been great lately on sponmatch, but he always turns up in big tournaments. Effort isn't what he was pre-military so no chance.

Snow is way overrated. Best is the best Protoss right now but he always chokes in offline tournaments. In fact, Protoss would feel proud if anyone of them can make the top 8.

It's between Zero, Soma, Light and Rush.


There are no protoss right now able to beat Zero or Soma in a BO5+, it's not impossible but very unlikely.


Bisu can comfortably do it.


I wouldn't say comfortably but yes, he can definitely do it.

I mean, out of all the Zerg players, Soma has the best ZvP record against Bisu in 2021 and even he's at 42%. That's ridiculous. If Bisu's PvT is as good as his PvZ, he'll walk the league.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10010 Posts
March 28 2021 23:25 GMT
#37
bisu won't win on these maps until he learns how to carrier micro
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1189 Posts
March 29 2021 00:12 GMT
#38
On March 29 2021 08:25 TT1 wrote:
bisu won't win on these maps until he learns how to PvT


Fixed that for you.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
March 29 2021 00:57 GMT
#39
On March 29 2021 09:12 oxKnu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2021 08:25 TT1 wrote:
bisu won't win on these maps until he learns how to PvT


Fixed that for you.


Luckily there's no terrans anymore to stand in his way.
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DooMeR
Profile Joined July 2003
United States1519 Posts
March 29 2021 02:30 GMT
#40
I feel like its of course close between light/soma/zero. However i think Light pulls into as heavy of a favorite as could be expected outside a flash god level player. Light has no real weak matchup. He doesn't have to deal with as much coin flipping as pvp and zvz players would have to. He's one of the few still doing very well vs protoss given the meta which is the biggest question marks for terrans right now. He has a lot of things in his favor.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8290 Posts
March 29 2021 06:08 GMT
#41
Light has good chanches against zerg players and his TvP improved a lot. Not having Flash in this tournament gives him a bit of hope. Zero is amazing indeed and defintely can win it. Unfortunataly effort has problems with zvz and Best is not performing so good in offline games. I will go with Light / Zero
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SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain346 Posts
March 29 2021 09:48 GMT
#42
On March 28 2021 00:25 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Soma


+1
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1893 Posts
March 29 2021 09:54 GMT
#43
kr (Wiki)Flash
patyrykin.net
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
March 29 2021 12:47 GMT
#44
On March 29 2021 18:54 Rus_Brain wrote:
kr (Wiki)Flash

bold bet
Elevenst
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
March 29 2021 13:11 GMT
#45
I honestly can't believe you think effort will win asl 11.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
March 29 2021 14:01 GMT
#46
It will be Zero once again. Hes dang good.
-.-
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8549 Posts
March 29 2021 14:10 GMT
#47
Tbh, I haven't followed many matches since the last ASL so I' a bit out of the loop. However, some things will never change, such as:

On March 28 2021 03:29 oxKnu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2021 03:10 LML wrote:
Nobody suggesting BeSt? Hasn't he been playing mad good lately?


Best is only favorite if the tournament is exclusively restricted to PvT with at least Bo7 in every round.


So true, lmao.
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway702 Posts
March 29 2021 14:15 GMT
#48
Soma or EFFORT!!!
nyoken
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States100 Posts
March 29 2021 15:47 GMT
#49
ASLChamp11Rush
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
March 29 2021 16:07 GMT
#50
On March 30 2021 00:47 nyoken wrote:
ASLChamp11Rush


Frankly that would be sweet. He’s been playing great!

I remember that Flash video where he says that players need to really show special play when playing well to gain new fans (and buffet their income streams). Rush is living that advice right now!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50389 Posts
March 29 2021 16:23 GMT
#51
On March 30 2021 00:47 nyoken wrote:
ASLChamp11Rush


this joke never gets old.
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QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
March 29 2021 18:56 GMT
#52
On March 30 2021 01:23 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2021 00:47 nyoken wrote:
ASLChamp11Rush


this joke never gets old.

I genuinely admire Rush for sticking with it for like six seasons.
Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
March 31 2021 16:25 GMT
#53
Give props for Rush having a goal and sticking with it. I think he could make semi-finals. ASL always is spectacular. Maybe Bisu ends up winning a season? I also don’t count out Sharp after seeing him win a KSL. The man has potential and seems like the Mini of Terrans.
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-31 20:56:28
March 31 2021 16:45 GMT
#54
Bisu[shield] Ninja Toss The Revolutionist Bruce Lee Toss Bisu Kim Taek Yong Beesuit.
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2277 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-31 16:52:05
March 31 2021 16:50 GMT
#55
KIM TAEK YONG

StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
April 07 2021 20:59 GMT
#56
OP updated with new poll!
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2215 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-08 02:42:29
April 08 2021 02:36 GMT
#57
The reigning champion is the clear favorite, as he was last season. Zero may very well accumulate as many or more ASL trophies as Flash over the next few seasons.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1771 Posts
April 08 2021 03:22 GMT
#58
chosimzerg
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oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
April 08 2021 08:05 GMT
#59
voted for Hero, i think he is underrated atm
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
April 08 2021 08:06 GMT
#60
I've been out of the loop for months, can I get a quick update on why Flash is out? Also is Bisu good again? How is he so high in the polls when last I remember he's been posting poor results.
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ggByron
Profile Joined December 2017
24 Posts
April 08 2021 08:16 GMT
#61
can I get a quick update on why Flash is out? Also is Bisu good again? How is he so high in the polls when last I remember he's been posting poor results.

1. Injury.
2. Not quite.
3. Fishful thinking.
omahahowitzer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States98 Posts
April 08 2021 08:23 GMT
#62
On April 08 2021 17:16 ggByron wrote:
Show nested quote +
can I get a quick update on why Flash is out? Also is Bisu good again? How is he so high in the polls when last I remember he's been posting poor results.

1. Injury.
2. Not quite.
3. Fishful thinking.


Why would you say Bisu is not good? He is the 2nd highest player by ELO behind Flash in sites that track matches between pros. He has had 65%+ PvZ and 55%+ PvT in last few months consistently and takes games off all other top players like Soma, Queen, Light, etc. All aboard the Bisu hype train!
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-08 09:15:59
April 08 2021 09:15 GMT
#63
Watched the last several weeks of KCM Race Wars and honestly the protosses look like filling, being there just to add some flavor. Nor sure if any of them can even reach a semi. I'll be surprised.
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Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway702 Posts
April 08 2021 09:27 GMT
#64


Look at Bisu vs Soulkey at 1 hour. Bisu is so fucking good now at least vs zerg. His macro is slipping a bit at times so with some more practice he’s gonna be extremely good.
What a game!!! Hype hype hype!!
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1189 Posts
April 08 2021 09:35 GMT
#65
On April 08 2021 18:15 M2 wrote:
Watched the last several weeks of KCM Race Wars and honestly the protosses look like filling, being there just to add some flavor. Nor sure if any of them can even reach a semi. I'll be surprised.


It's been like this for the past 1 year, maybe even 2.

The only hope is Bisu.

I'm still not sold on him but he's been having some really good results lately.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-08 10:01:09
April 08 2021 09:58 GMT
#66
On April 08 2021 18:27 Timebon3s wrote:
https://youtu.be/Fr_jEPUPnm8

Look at Bisu vs Soulkey at 1 hour. Bisu is so fucking good now at least vs zerg. His macro is slipping a bit at times so with some more practice he’s gonna be extremely good.
What a game!!! Hype hype hype!!

yeah I watched it and actually wondered if I should mention that bisu shows some dignity from time to time, mostly vs zerg, but I also just watched kcm week 8 where larva mopped the floor with him. Protosses just dont look competitive anymore and I hope I am wrong about it
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omahahowitzer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States98 Posts
April 08 2021 10:31 GMT
#67
On April 08 2021 18:58 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2021 18:27 Timebon3s wrote:
https://youtu.be/Fr_jEPUPnm8

Look at Bisu vs Soulkey at 1 hour. Bisu is so fucking good now at least vs zerg. His macro is slipping a bit at times so with some more practice he’s gonna be extremely good.
What a game!!! Hype hype hype!!

yeah I watched it and actually wondered if I should mention that bisu shows some dignity from time to time, mostly vs zerg, but I also just watched kcm week 8 where larva mopped the floor with him. Protosses just dont look competitive anymore and I hope I am wrong about it


If you only watch racewars you will think Protoss is doomed for sure, for some reason Bisu doesn't do too well and other ones are lost. But Bisu is doing quite well in streamed matches
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2040 Posts
April 08 2021 12:17 GMT
#68
Light / Zero / Sorry / Soma -> in that order
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6179 Posts
April 08 2021 13:11 GMT
#69
Bisu is an excellent player. He is not levels above everyone else like in distant past. Still wouldn't be surprised if he reached finals.
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
April 08 2021 13:23 GMT
#70
So far Snow has been really impressive but his group was kind of weak
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8290 Posts
April 08 2021 13:45 GMT
#71
Voted for Light
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
April 10 2021 16:50 GMT
#72
There are a lot of dark horses I think could make it to ro4: Sharp, Mini, Best, Hero, and Shuttle. Shuttle always seems to do better than I think he will do. And the others, if they don’t choke like normal, have the talent to place 3-4th place.
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
April 10 2021 18:02 GMT
#73
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