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kurrrak
Poland133 Posts
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kAra
Germany1375 Posts
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rich-
United States134 Posts
We're moving in the wrong direction. The more tightly bound the games are in terms of MMR the better they play. Why not just add another bot for SA games? This would bring a lot of new players in as the level of play goes up. Playing 50+ games and SABC are just a completely different game than playing an SA only game. The games play out totally different and the strategies that are viable are also completely different. It's a lot less fun when you introduce a bunch of low players on either side. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28668 Posts
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kAra
Germany1375 Posts
i think most ppl at C or below just randomly join the bot and dont even know what is happening. why have a ranking system at all if you just lump em all together in the end in some SAB game. from my past experience playing other ladders, at some point you were at the top level and only had high level games. here it just even dont come close - even when the current SAB games fill in milliseonds for hours | ||
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rich-
United States134 Posts
On January 30 2025 06:07 Liquid`Drone wrote: tbh I like playing uneven games lol. And SAB is def fine, B players are good enough. I get that people don't enjoy playing with DEF (even though I do) but B players are fiine. You say that, but if you were playing a high level 2v2 game with each side having one noob, it just feels lopsided often times. And playing random races with lopsided teams isn't fun for most people. It's just rock paper scissors sometimes and can be very frustrating. I think there is a very large contingent of players that do not use the MMR service for this exact reason. There are a bunch of high level players on west, and a ton of high level Chinese players that don't bother with the MMR service. I think if you created SA level, you could potentially court both of these groups. This is why I was advocating for a SA, and 24/7 SABC/SAB schedule as these time zones do not overlap. Bringing these communities together in EU would be amazing imo. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28668 Posts
And I get not wanting to play with newbies (even if I myself enjoy that), but B players aren't newbies. I also don't think higher ranked people are more entitled to having the bot than worse players are. There's a coherent argument I agree with that we should have more SAB(C) than DEF because the SAB(C) fills up instantly while the DEF doesn't, but there needs to be an option for the DEF players, too, and while the DEF player base is much less active than the higher ranked ones, there are lots of active B players (I mean otherwise the argument that we should have SA only bot wouldn't really have any validity) and I don't want them to have fewer bot options than SA players do. | ||
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rich-
United States134 Posts
And I think that if you court the highest skill level players, the other players would follow, thereby expanding the community. Not only do they not show up to these games, but every game outside the bot game is a DEF game. They're not missing out on anything. I think by definition of being a DEF player, you're not as serious about it and don't have as much care in the world about whether there's a DEF bot or not. Bot games are 16 turn rate, which doesn't lag. There are already quite a few Chinese players in the mix and I have not noticed any lag from them. | ||
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rich-
United States134 Posts
I think the community itself would happily support this project if it was a money issue. I would be willing to donate the cloud hosting cost of an SA bot for the entire year if our dear leader indicated that he was interested in taking donations. My understanding is that he is not. | ||
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D3AD-R3TARD
Poland301 Posts
On January 28 2025 03:24 aleeee wrote: Hi, What happend to SAB bot? that bot is just hosting 50+ games There was a bug, it's fixed now. Thanks for report. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
I'm struggling to climb past 2200 despite having a W/L ratio > 50%, it's like Im winning 20pts but losing 40... On the leaderboards there are people with a similar number of games, a worst ratio, but they have 500 or even 600 more points than me it's crazy. What am I missing ? | ||
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IMJIRAIYA
59 Posts
"If you can't fly, then run; if you can't run, then walk; if you can't walk, then crawl; but whatever you do, you have to keep moving forward." -Martin Luther King Jr | ||
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D3AD-R3TARD
Poland301 Posts
On January 30 2025 08:58 Lylat wrote: Can someone explain to me the point system on this ladder ? I'm struggling to climb past 2200 despite having a W/L ratio > 50%, it's like Im winning 20pts but losing 40... On the leaderboards there are people with a similar number of games, a worst ratio, but they have 500 or even 600 more points than me it's crazy. What am I missing ? The system is a variation of the Elo rating system, commonly used in games like chess. Essentially, the points gained or lost depend on the MMR difference between the two opposing teams. Losing to a lower-rated opponent results in a greater point deduction. That being said, if your BGH nickname matches your forum nickname, you've gained over 250 MMR points in the last two months and are currently well above 2200, sitting at 2293. | ||
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kurrrak
Poland133 Posts
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wimpwimpwimp
169 Posts
On January 30 2025 04:00 kurrrak wrote: Or stop using GPT for making irrelevant overgrown posts. + Show Spoiler + Hark! Feather’d peers and warlike kin take heed, Ye falcons keen, ye owls of cunning art! For lo, in battle’s fiercest hour of need, A noble cause doth rise to stir the heart. Behold yon plains of Big Game Hunters vast, Where mighty flocks in triune valor meet, Where goslings grow to eagles fierce and fast, And battle’s song rings bold with wings’ fierce beat. Yet midst this storm, where stratagems take flight, Where hawks and ravens weave their deadly game, A cry resounds upon the winds of night— "Too oft we face the fledgling’s tamer aim!" Shall titans clash ‘gainst those who peck and stray? Shall vultures feast where phoenix ought to soar? Nay, let there rise a bot to sort the fray, To test the hawks, the talons red with war! For S and A, a proving ground we call, Where only eagles dare the tempest high, Where silver wingtips dance ‘midst cannon’s thrall, And only kings of air may grace the sky! Yet still, let BGH in glory reign, A roost where all may play their fated part, From sparrow’s chirp to falcon’s bold campaign, All bound by love of game and craft of heart. Thus hear me, lords! Make haste! Make steel resolve! Let merit rule, let skill our fates evolve! | ||
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kurrrak
Poland133 Posts
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
On January 24 2025 05:21 Kazim1 wrote: This dude definitely needs to be banned. He is not using klauncher in which you can see battle.net account names in lobbys but he is seeing the battle.net account names in lobbys. must be using some kind of alternative maphack launcher and like total weirdo creep writing down all akas or it is showing. he immediately knows who player x accounts are. also him admitting to stream sniping in this screenshot which is cheating he should be banned forever. Poll: Ban CentauriProxima and all his accounts Yes (26) No (5) 31 total votes You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ Yes I second this, he's maphacking, I didnt know but just played a game where he cliff dropp'd but with 2 valks, 0 reason to bring 2 valks except that there was my ally overlord who provided vision. And of course it never was scouted. He's bad mannered, lagging and maphacking... no reason not to ban him | ||
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intrepid1109
10 Posts
is that code you can share? Thanks | ||
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Alexander34
8 Posts
On February 02 2025 20:41 Lylat wrote: I second this, he's maphacking, I didnt know but just played a game where he cliff dropp'd but with 2 valks, 0 reason to bring 2 valks except that there was my ally overlord who provided vision. And of course it never was scouted. He's bad mannered, lagging and maphacking... no reason not to ban him How many ''YES'' are requred in order to be banned.. he needs temporary ban until he buy new internet connection Yellow ping shouldn't be allow to play in 3v3 . | ||
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kAra
Germany1375 Posts
On January 30 2025 06:49 Liquid`Drone wrote: I mean I'm honestly happy if only europeans play and I definitely don't want chinese or koreans. That's not because I'm opposed to people from different cultures or whatever but I'd much rather play with players that are worse than play with lag. Some NA players can play with europeans without lag but the more continents the more lag there will be. And I get not wanting to play with newbies (even if I myself enjoy that), but B players aren't newbies. I also don't think higher ranked people are more entitled to having the bot than worse players are. There's a coherent argument I agree with that we should have more SAB(C) than DEF because the SAB(C) fills up instantly while the DEF doesn't, but there needs to be an option for the DEF players, too, and while the DEF player base is much less active than the higher ranked ones, there are lots of active B players (I mean otherwise the argument that we should have SA only bot wouldn't really have any validity) and I don't want them to have fewer bot options than SA players do. easy fix would be to just open SA bot for 2-3 hours a day, or maybe even only a few hours at the weekend? no idea how much work it would be to change the current configuration. the higher skill players would automaticly adapt and gather at these hours it just feels wrong having a ladder, where you cant escape the crazy - since every active player is in the same game anyways (SAB & SABC = almost all active player base). i brought 4 or 5 accounts to S rank during a few weeks, but lost all my interest there, because the games are somehow not getting better but even worse on the top skillwise | ||
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