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Patch 1.22 Season 1 Map Pool

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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-25 03:28:01
July 25 2018 02:18 GMT
#1
Can veterans weigh in and give some advice on which maps to veto and which maps might be good for a certain race?

(2) Blue Storm 1.2

(2) Heartbreak Ridge 2.1

(3) Polaris Rhapsody 1.0

(4) Aztec 2.1

CB and FS are returning.

FORGOT TO ADD: ROADKILL! By Freakling.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50864 Posts
July 25 2018 02:37 GMT
#2
This is the full map pool
(2) Blue Storm 1.2
(2) Heartbreak Ridge 2.1
(2) Polaris Rhapsody 1.0
(3) Aztec 2.1
(4) Roadkill 1.13
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51586 Posts
July 25 2018 04:37 GMT
#3
i'm vetoing cb/fs for obvious reasons (overplayed to death and just not fun to play on).

my last veto is a toss up between hbr and blue storm - leaning towards hbr at the moment.
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-25 04:49:25
July 25 2018 04:48 GMT
#4
Man I just realized roadkill is a different map from shades of twilight lol...

vetoing cb because square safe money maps can go fuck themselves. might veto bs for my terran and possibly protoss at least until i can be assed to learn its FE.
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GlC.HeRBY
Profile Joined October 2009
Germany18 Posts
July 25 2018 05:12 GMT
#5
i like the mappool. besides fs and cb those are good and fun to play maps.
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-25 05:24:33
July 25 2018 05:23 GMT
#6
Blue Storm is supposed to be a good Z>T map.

Congrats Freakling for your map being chosen. I am happy for you. Your hard work paid off.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-25 13:13:20
July 25 2018 06:18 GMT
#7
I veto'd BS/Polaris/Roadkill (BS cus im too rusty atm so i'll just get tilted by the pathing, i dislike Polaris and i don't feel like learning how to play on Roadkill right now), i'll unveto BS when im a bit less rusty.

imo:

(2) Blue Storm: P > T (only if P goes Carriers, if Arb style T > P) // P > Z (if P plays passive/turtle split map style) // T > Z
(2) Heartbreak Ridge: P > T // Z > P // T > Z
(2) Polaris Rhapsody: P > T // Z > P (really comes down to denying P from taking the double gas exp) // T > Z (SK terran style)
(3) Neo Aztec: pretty balanced other than T > Z maybe
(4) Roadkill: new map so I dunno yet, looks T favored tho (especially TvZ)
(4) Circuit Breakers
(4) Fighting Spirit

in conclusion: zerg is gonna get shrekt by terran
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12032 Posts
July 25 2018 06:19 GMT
#8
On July 25 2018 13:37 GTR wrote:
i'm vetoing cb/fs for obvious reasons (overplayed to death and just not fun to play on).

my last veto is a toss up between hbr and blue storm - leaning towards hbr at the moment.


GTR I'm so happy there's someone else that feels like this. FS and CB are boring as hell and it's my one dissappointment that they're never going to go away :/

I think my final veto I won't use for now, but depending on how Roadkill plays on ladder (I've only ever played it in customs) then I might veto that.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13409 Posts
July 25 2018 06:43 GMT
#9
Polaris blows. The other maps are fine. Blue Storm is great. Bring RoV back too!
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
TheBrochette
Profile Joined July 2018
67 Posts
July 25 2018 09:23 GMT
#10
I agréé with tt1 about the maps. À trick for bs would be to rally your army Near the minéral base b3 .
Kingdom[NaS]
Profile Joined April 2018
74 Posts
July 25 2018 12:21 GMT
#11
On July 25 2018 15:18 TT1 wrote:
I veto'd BS/Polaris/Roadkill (BS cus im too rusty atm so i'll just get tilted by the pathing, i dislike Polaris and i don't feel like learning how to play on Roadkill right now), i'll unveto BS when im a bit less rusty.

imo:

(2) Blue Storm: P > T (only if P goes Carriers, if Arb style T > P) // P > Z (if P plays passive/turtle split map style) // T > Z
(2) Heartbreak Ridge: P > T // Z > P // T > Z
(2) Polaris Rhapsody: P > T // Z > P (really comes down to denying the double gas for P) // T > Z (SK terran style)
(3) Neo Aztec: pretty balanced other than T > Z maybe
(4) Roadkill: new map so I dunno yet, looks T favored tho (especially TvZ)
(4) Circuit Breakers
(4) Fighting Spirit

in conclusion: zerg is gonna get shrekt by terran


Historically Polaris was slightly protoss favored in in pvz. Then again pvz is a diff beast now
Kingdom[NaS]
Profile Joined April 2018
74 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-25 12:23:35
July 25 2018 12:22 GMT
#12
I don't like any of the maps. Nothing with unique play styles, nothing with any island expansions. Just cookie cutter maps that are really all the same with the same meta.
SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
July 25 2018 13:00 GMT
#13
I hate all the maps except CB and FS.

But I've vetoed BS/HBR/Polaris.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12032 Posts
July 25 2018 13:13 GMT
#14
On July 25 2018 15:18 TT1 wrote:
I veto'd BS/Polaris/Roadkill (BS cus im too rusty atm so i'll just get tilted by the pathing, i dislike Polaris and i don't feel like learning how to play on Roadkill right now), i'll unveto BS when im a bit less rusty.

imo:

(2) Blue Storm: P > T (only if P goes Carriers, if Arb style T > P) // P > Z (if P plays passive/turtle split map style) // T > Z
(2) Heartbreak Ridge: P > T // Z > P // T > Z
(2) Polaris Rhapsody: P > T // Z > P (really comes down to denying the P from taking the double gas exp) // T > Z (SK terran style)
(3) Neo Aztec: pretty balanced other than T > Z maybe
(4) Roadkill: new map so I dunno yet, looks T favored tho (especially TvZ)
(4) Circuit Breakers
(4) Fighting Spirit

in conclusion: zerg is gonna get shrekt by terran


Aztec I believe is still P > T because arbiters are insane on that map.
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Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1533 Posts
July 25 2018 13:35 GMT
#15
Bug analysis of new ladder maps.
FavoritBW
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden52 Posts
July 25 2018 14:12 GMT
#16
i like the new mappool. didnt veto any
Ake_Vader
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden58 Posts
July 25 2018 14:41 GMT
#17
Are the maps automatically downloaded if i want to try them out locally? I have a folder called "Frontierladder2018" or similar but seems to contain last season's maps... :S
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6868 Posts
July 25 2018 14:45 GMT
#18
vetoed HBR Road Kill Blue storm
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
July 25 2018 15:22 GMT
#19
Aztec is zerg map (and P>T), same with HBR. Terrans are going to have a hard time with this map pool
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
July 25 2018 15:23 GMT
#20
On July 25 2018 15:18 TT1 wrote:
I veto'd BS/Polaris/Roadkill (BS cus im too rusty atm so i'll just get tilted by the pathing, i dislike Polaris and i don't feel like learning how to play on Roadkill right now), i'll unveto BS when im a bit less rusty.

imo:

(2) Blue Storm: P > T (only if P goes Carriers, if Arb style T > P) // P > Z (if P plays passive/turtle split map style) // T > Z
(2) Heartbreak Ridge: P > T // Z > P // T > Z
(2) Polaris Rhapsody: P > T // Z > P (really comes down to denying P from taking the double gas exp) // T > Z (SK terran style)
(3) Neo Aztec: pretty balanced other than T > Z maybe
(4) Roadkill: new map so I dunno yet, looks T favored tho (especially TvZ)
(4) Circuit Breakers
(4) Fighting Spirit

in conclusion: zerg is gonna get shrekt by terran



Thank you TT1. This is incredibly helpful!
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1600 Posts
July 25 2018 15:58 GMT
#21
Vetoed HBR, BS and Aztec.
Gorgonoth
Profile Joined August 2017
United States468 Posts
July 25 2018 16:46 GMT
#22
FS CB 4 lyfe
Gorgonoth
Profile Joined August 2017
United States468 Posts
July 25 2018 16:54 GMT
#23
Apparently terrans really hated HBR www.teamliquid.net
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
July 28 2018 09:25 GMT
#24
i think i had all my most unfun maps in history of starcraft on HBR ... thats so gonna be vetoed i not like to get contained in pvz for 100 ages
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Incomplete..ReV
Profile Joined August 2017
Norway646 Posts
July 28 2018 10:11 GMT
#25
Love the maps! Polaris and HBR are two of my most favorite maps. FS, CB and Aztec are "safe" and nice, haven't really gotten a feel toward Roadkill yet, but really cool that it's Freakling's and all that.

Blue Storm pathing always does pose its challenges, but it's hard not to like the map nonetheless.

Persoanlly looking very much forward to playing ladder with these maps.! :-)
It's ok. I still love you <3
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
July 28 2018 11:40 GMT
#26
On July 26 2018 00:58 EndingLife wrote:
Vetoed HBR, BS and Aztec.

Are you Terran? Kappa.
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[nomyx]
Profile Joined September 2018
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-29 21:45:30
September 29 2018 21:45 GMT
#27
I vetoed fighting spirit / circuit breakers / polaris
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-30 11:13:24
September 30 2018 11:12 GMT
#28
Am I the only one who likes a balanced map like CB so that as a a zerg I don't have to to the following?

1) Fight extra hard for my third base
2) Fight extra hard to get the limited number of expansions that are available on smaller maps (eg 2 player maps).

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