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2016 Afreeca Starleague announced - June-Sept

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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-06 23:57:08
June 15 2016 06:51 GMT
#1
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(Wiki)2016 Afreeca Starleague
http://starleague.kr
http://afreecatv.com/afstar1



Finally announced after much anticipation!

Afreeca/Kongdoo co-production

League Schedule:
Jun 15-Sep 4, 2016

Preliminary Registration Period
Jun 6-23, 2016

Seoul qualifying: Jun 25, 2016
Busan qualifying: Jun 26, 2016

Steep decline in prize money :/

1st 15,000,000 (KRW)
2nd 3,000,000
3rd - 4th 1,000,000
5th - 8th 500,000
9th - 16th 250,000

Preliminary maps: Fighting Spirit, Circuit Breaker, Blue Storm

Also it looks like only 16 will advance from the prelims, expecting the qualifiers to be brutal

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Ro16 group stage: dual tournament round robin
Ro8-Finals: Bo5

Participants:



On June 27 2016 11:47 Probemicro wrote:
theres a calendar schedule of the ASL now available on starleague.kr
(date only for now, no time)

27 June
Photo shoot

10 July
(sunday)
Group selection ceremony

17, 19, 24, 26, 31 July
2 August
(every sunday and tuesday)
Round of 16

7 August
(sunday)
Tiebreaker day


14, 16, 21, 23 Aug
(every sunday and tuesday)
Round of 8

28, 30 Aug
(sunday and tuesday)
Round of 4

4 Sept
(sunday)
Finals

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-15 07:02:52
June 15 2016 06:56 GMT
#2
Its finally here!

wow halved the prize pool

and only 16 players? I'm a little underwhelmed, really hope they gain some massive support for this season so they can do a proper season next.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
June 15 2016 07:03 GMT
#3
^^Guess the lowered prize money reflects the fewer number of players?

Maybe a Korean speaker can corroborate, some Ygosu folks are wondering about it too

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/300457
http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/300453
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-15 09:44:30
June 15 2016 07:18 GMT
#4
Finally!!!

VANT had 38,000,000 prize pool while this 24,000,000. At least this one is not top heavy and everyone in the RO16 will get some cash. Sounds cool.

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 15 2016 10:07 GMT
#5
On June 15 2016 16:18 Wrath wrote:
Finally!!!

VANT had 38,000,000 prize pool while this 24,000,000. At least this one is not top heavy and everyone in the RO16 will get some cash. Sounds cool.


First place getting five times as much as second place not too top heavy? Huh?
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 15 2016 10:11 GMT
#6
On June 15 2016 19:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 16:18 Wrath wrote:
Finally!!!

VANT had 38,000,000 prize pool while this 24,000,000. At least this one is not top heavy and everyone in the RO16 will get some cash. Sounds cool.


First place getting five times as much as second place not too top heavy? Huh?


I meant not top heavy as the VANT league. That one the first place took 6 times as much and non below 4th place took anything. Here everyone does take something.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51398 Posts
June 15 2016 11:03 GMT
#7
remember that this is afreeca and kongdoo ponying up the prize pool instead of a sponsor so it's pretty generous if you ask me
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 15 2016 11:08 GMT
#8
On June 15 2016 20:03 GTR wrote:
remember that this is afreeca and kongdoo ponying up the prize pool instead of a sponsor so it's pretty generous if you ask me


Agreed. Hopefully this one will be a blast and attract more sponsors for the next season.
petro1987
Profile Joined May 2009
Brazil374 Posts
June 15 2016 11:44 GMT
#9
I'm just glad we still have big tournaments for BW!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
June 15 2016 11:48 GMT
#10
On June 15 2016 20:08 Wrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 20:03 GTR wrote:
remember that this is afreeca and kongdoo ponying up the prize pool instead of a sponsor so it's pretty generous if you ask me


Agreed. Hopefully this one will be a blast and attract more sponsors for the next season.


hmm, might attract a good amount of foreign audience if tastosis are casting but korean numbers have to be good for sponsors.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
June 15 2016 11:49 GMT
#11
I'm sooo hyped :D
FlashDave.999 aka Star
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-15 11:51:31
June 15 2016 11:51 GMT
#12
Everyone keep your eyes opened and see if Jaedong signs. I have a feeling he will!
remag
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany354 Posts
June 15 2016 11:54 GMT
#13
Bisu, Effort, Sharp, Zero get a seed into R16?
Flash also would have to go through the qualifier?
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 15 2016 11:56 GMT
#14
On June 15 2016 20:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 20:08 Wrath wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:03 GTR wrote:
remember that this is afreeca and kongdoo ponying up the prize pool instead of a sponsor so it's pretty generous if you ask me


Agreed. Hopefully this one will be a blast and attract more sponsors for the next season.


hmm, might attract a good amount of foreign audience if tastosis are casting but korean numbers have to be good for sponsors.


Do you have any doubt they will not be?
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
June 15 2016 12:01 GMT
#15
Yes

Finally
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
June 15 2016 13:01 GMT
#16
On June 15 2016 20:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 20:08 Wrath wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:03 GTR wrote:
remember that this is afreeca and kongdoo ponying up the prize pool instead of a sponsor so it's pretty generous if you ask me


Agreed. Hopefully this one will be a blast and attract more sponsors for the next season.


hmm, might attract a good amount of foreign audience if tastosis are casting but korean numbers have to be good for sponsors.


well just when we had the chance to mb get professional foreign casters back into Broodwar, there's a sharp decline. Less players advance from the prelims, less prize money and no sponsor. The last part is worrysome to me; if the annual big korean Starleague can't find a proper sponsor, it's sad times.

Happy to see this tho and best of luck to (T)Scan who is training hard fot it. Competition is gonna be very tough.
Broodwar for life!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?36960 Posts
June 15 2016 13:11 GMT
#17
Oh snap. BW with the awesomeness again Oo;;
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 15 2016 13:19 GMT
#18
neat
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
June 15 2016 13:33 GMT
#19
Do we know if any of the less active players like Jangbi and Killer will be playing?
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3344 Posts
June 15 2016 13:38 GMT
#20
I m super hyped about this!
Horang2 fan
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
June 15 2016 13:53 GMT
#21
On June 15 2016 22:33 iamho wrote:
Do we know if any of the less active players like Jangbi and Killer will be playing?


no, because both are doing their military service at the moment.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
June 15 2016 14:27 GMT
#22
Sweet, hope I can catch some of this at least!
"HSC casting is essentially an LR thread read aloud." -ThomasjServo
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10666 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-15 14:45:12
June 15 2016 14:43 GMT
#23
Woohoo Go Afreeca~!

EDIT : I'd love to cast if a caster is needed, casting BW is a dream come true
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10666 Posts
June 15 2016 14:59 GMT
#24
On June 15 2016 20:03 GTR wrote:
remember that this is afreeca and kongdoo ponying up the prize pool instead of a sponsor so it's pretty generous if you ask me


GTR, are you casting this event i'm guessing, and if so with who sir?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66153 Posts
June 15 2016 15:44 GMT
#25
HELL ITS ABOUT TIME

shame about the lower prize pool though, but hopefully once starleague stabilizes, it will attract more investors
POGGERS
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19211 Posts
June 15 2016 16:35 GMT
#26
Hell yes! This is great news. Lots of Brood War this summer.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
June 15 2016 17:14 GMT
#27
Yay, I'll start watching BW again when this gets started!
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
June 15 2016 17:29 GMT
#28
awesome!
i love you
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-15 18:34:38
June 15 2016 17:48 GMT
#29
On June 15 2016 22:01 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 20:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:08 Wrath wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:03 GTR wrote:
remember that this is afreeca and kongdoo ponying up the prize pool instead of a sponsor so it's pretty generous if you ask me


Agreed. Hopefully this one will be a blast and attract more sponsors for the next season.


hmm, might attract a good amount of foreign audience if tastosis are casting but korean numbers have to be good for sponsors.


well just when we had the chance to mb get professional foreign casters back into Broodwar, there's a sharp decline. Less players advance from the prelims, less prize money and no sponsor. The last part is worrysome to me; if the annual big korean Starleague can't find a proper sponsor, it's sad times.

Happy to see this tho and best of luck to (T)Scan who is training hard fot it. Competition is gonna be very tough.


Thanks for cheering me. I really do not know if I will be able to participate.
My plane schedule is on 22nd which I will arrive in Korea night time on 23rd.
Currently, I am having a difficulty of registering the qualifiers so I sent an email to them.
I hope I can play..
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Basti1
Profile Joined June 2016
15 Posts
June 15 2016 18:00 GMT
#30
And I thought when I started to play Bw, last month that I'm totally to late for the party :D. Niiice I hope this game never dies
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-15 18:18:00
June 15 2016 18:17 GMT
#31
Please keep us updated if anyone notice Jaedong in the qualifiers.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
June 15 2016 18:18 GMT
#32
Hype ! Go Flash !
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-15 18:56:08
June 15 2016 18:55 GMT
#33
Nice to see this tournament finally.
16 players only is a bit dissapointing tho.
What i hope is for great games and new sponsors.
Luv ya BroodWar!
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
June 15 2016 19:09 GMT
#34
Hope all the top progamers participate. With the decreased prize money and all the time needed for prep/practice, that's less balloon-earning time...

Presumably Flash will play with his Afreeca relationship

Bisu and others already expressing some doubts

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/300469/
Liquipedia
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1919 Posts
June 15 2016 19:12 GMT
#35
Awesome!
Calendaraka Foxhan
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
June 15 2016 19:36 GMT
#36
So sick to see broodwar coming back! Afreeca has done a great job with GSL this season so I'm excited to relive my first experiences watching KR Broodwar all over again.
The faster caster. @RAPiDCasting
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
June 15 2016 20:03 GMT
#37
Hell it's about time!
ॐ
MifuneKinski
Profile Joined April 2011
United States42 Posts
June 15 2016 20:10 GMT
#38
Time to tweet the sponsors to see a Tastosis cast?
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 15 2016 21:22 GMT
#39
On June 16 2016 04:09 prech wrote:
Hope all the top progamers participate. With the decreased prize money and all the time needed for prep/practice, that's less balloon-earning time...

Presumably Flash will play with his Afreeca relationship

Bisu and others already expressing some doubts

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/300469/


Ah come on if they do not participate it will be huge hit to the whole tournament
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
June 15 2016 22:44 GMT
#40
On June 16 2016 02:48 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 22:01 Cele wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:08 Wrath wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:03 GTR wrote:
remember that this is afreeca and kongdoo ponying up the prize pool instead of a sponsor so it's pretty generous if you ask me


Agreed. Hopefully this one will be a blast and attract more sponsors for the next season.


hmm, might attract a good amount of foreign audience if tastosis are casting but korean numbers have to be good for sponsors.


well just when we had the chance to mb get professional foreign casters back into Broodwar, there's a sharp decline. Less players advance from the prelims, less prize money and no sponsor. The last part is worrysome to me; if the annual big korean Starleague can't find a proper sponsor, it's sad times.

Happy to see this tho and best of luck to (T)Scan who is training hard fot it. Competition is gonna be very tough.


Thanks for cheering me. I really do not know if I will be able to participate.
My plane schedule is on 22nd which I will arrive in Korea night time on 23rd.
Currently, I am having a difficulty of registering the qualifiers so I sent an email to them.
I hope I can play..


i hope so too!
Broodwar for life!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19211 Posts
June 15 2016 23:05 GMT
#41
On June 16 2016 06:22 Wrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 04:09 prech wrote:
Hope all the top progamers participate. With the decreased prize money and all the time needed for prep/practice, that's less balloon-earning time...

Presumably Flash will play with his Afreeca relationship

Bisu and others already expressing some doubts

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/300469/


Ah come on if they do not participate it will be huge hit to the whole tournament

Yeah, their attitude towards the KCM tournaments has been poor too. It's very upsetting.



On June 16 2016 05:10 MifuneKinski wrote:
Time to tweet the sponsors to see a Tastosis cast?

Tweet your resident casters too. Some of us *wink* *wink* have been casting consistently big tournament's for the past 4 years.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 15 2016 23:18 GMT
#42
On June 16 2016 08:05 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 06:22 Wrath wrote:
On June 16 2016 04:09 prech wrote:
Hope all the top progamers participate. With the decreased prize money and all the time needed for prep/practice, that's less balloon-earning time...

Presumably Flash will play with his Afreeca relationship

Bisu and others already expressing some doubts

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/300469/


Ah come on if they do not participate it will be huge hit to the whole tournament

Yeah, their attitude towards the KCM tournaments has been poor too. It's very upsetting.



Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 05:10 MifuneKinski wrote:
Time to tweet the sponsors to see a Tastosis cast?

Tweet your resident casters too. Some of us *wink* *wink* have been casting consistently big tournament's for the past 4 years.


i could always use more beer money :D
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
HerbMon
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States460 Posts
June 15 2016 23:34 GMT
#43
I was just thinking about this today to! :D

Steep decline in prize money :/
^ really? who the freak cares. ITS BROOODWAR !!!!
How we will win in the period ahead.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-16 01:12:26
June 16 2016 01:12 GMT
#44
On June 16 2016 08:05 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 06:22 Wrath wrote:
On June 16 2016 04:09 prech wrote:
Hope all the top progamers participate. With the decreased prize money and all the time needed for prep/practice, that's less balloon-earning time...

Presumably Flash will play with his Afreeca relationship

Bisu and others already expressing some doubts

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/300469/


Ah come on if they do not participate it will be huge hit to the whole tournament

Yeah, their attitude towards the KCM tournaments has been poor too. It's very upsetting.



Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 05:10 MifuneKinski wrote:
Time to tweet the sponsors to see a Tastosis cast?

Tweet your resident casters too. Some of us *wink* *wink* have been casting consistently big tournament's for the past 4 years.


Whos they? Only Bisu's name has come out so far.

Dodge harder bisu, he used SSL11 to dodge the army last year, now that he isn't even willing to compete in tournaments, how did he manage to avoid it this year?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19211 Posts
June 16 2016 01:24 GMT
#45
On June 16 2016 10:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 08:05 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 16 2016 06:22 Wrath wrote:
On June 16 2016 04:09 prech wrote:
Hope all the top progamers participate. With the decreased prize money and all the time needed for prep/practice, that's less balloon-earning time...

Presumably Flash will play with his Afreeca relationship

Bisu and others already expressing some doubts

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/300469/


Ah come on if they do not participate it will be huge hit to the whole tournament

Yeah, their attitude towards the KCM tournaments has been poor too. It's very upsetting.



On June 16 2016 05:10 MifuneKinski wrote:
Time to tweet the sponsors to see a Tastosis cast?

Tweet your resident casters too. Some of us *wink* *wink* have been casting consistently big tournament's for the past 4 years.


Whos they? Only Bisu's name has come out so far.

Dodge harder bisu, he used SSL11 to dodge the army last year, now that he isn't even willing to compete in tournaments, how did he manage to avoid it this year?


I have my sources.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
cha0
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada504 Posts
June 16 2016 02:24 GMT
#46
On June 16 2016 03:17 Wrath wrote:
Please keep us updated if anyone notice Jaedong in the qualifiers.


Why would Jaedong play in a tourney without any practice? Pretty sure he would be very quickly recognized on ladder if he was practicing. It would be a dream if he is playing but false hope just leads to more tears.
jjwhg
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States155 Posts
June 16 2016 05:10 GMT
#47
Does anyone know if we can watch the qualifiers? I'm actually going to be in Korea during them
♥ Bisu ♥
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 16 2016 05:36 GMT
#48
On June 16 2016 14:10 jjwhg wrote:
Does anyone know if we can watch the qualifiers? I'm actually going to be in Korea during them


Uh. U can probably come to the place to watch I think. Quite not sure.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
June 16 2016 06:54 GMT
#49
Yay, I was waiting for the next tourney.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 16 2016 07:18 GMT
#50
On June 16 2016 11:24 cha0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 03:17 Wrath wrote:
Please keep us updated if anyone notice Jaedong in the qualifiers.


Why would Jaedong play in a tourney without any practice? Pretty sure he would be very quickly recognized on ladder if he was practicing. It would be a dream if he is playing but false hope just leads to more tears.


Someone said that he is actually active on fish

Source
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-16 07:50:33
June 16 2016 07:50 GMT
#51
On June 15 2016 22:01 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 20:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:08 Wrath wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:03 GTR wrote:
remember that this is afreeca and kongdoo ponying up the prize pool instead of a sponsor so it's pretty generous if you ask me


Agreed. Hopefully this one will be a blast and attract more sponsors for the next season.


hmm, might attract a good amount of foreign audience if tastosis are casting but korean numbers have to be good for sponsors.


well just when we had the chance to mb get professional foreign casters back into Broodwar, there's a sharp decline. Less players advance from the prelims, less prize money and no sponsor. The last part is worrysome to me; if the annual big korean Starleague can't find a proper sponsor, it's sad times.

Looks like starleague.kr was updated today with VANT36.5 added under sponsor, so it's good to hear an outside sponsor is providing some financing.

Hopefully they're pleased with the exposure from the VNSL last year
Liquipedia
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-16 07:54:00
June 16 2016 07:53 GMT
#52
On June 16 2016 16:50 prech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 22:01 Cele wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:08 Wrath wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:03 GTR wrote:
remember that this is afreeca and kongdoo ponying up the prize pool instead of a sponsor so it's pretty generous if you ask me


Agreed. Hopefully this one will be a blast and attract more sponsors for the next season.


hmm, might attract a good amount of foreign audience if tastosis are casting but korean numbers have to be good for sponsors.


well just when we had the chance to mb get professional foreign casters back into Broodwar, there's a sharp decline. Less players advance from the prelims, less prize money and no sponsor. The last part is worrysome to me; if the annual big korean Starleague can't find a proper sponsor, it's sad times.

Looks like starleague.kr was updated today with VANT36.5 added under sponsor, so it's good to hear an outside sponsor is providing some financing.

Hopefully they're pleased with the exposure from the VNSL last year


Based VANT36.5 saving Brood War!

If we get either Jaedong vs Flash or vs Bisu in the finals could we see they delaying the finals one week to get an outer venue? Man can dream
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-16 08:00:44
June 16 2016 07:59 GMT
#53
On June 16 2016 16:50 prech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 22:01 Cele wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:08 Wrath wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:03 GTR wrote:
remember that this is afreeca and kongdoo ponying up the prize pool instead of a sponsor so it's pretty generous if you ask me


Agreed. Hopefully this one will be a blast and attract more sponsors for the next season.


hmm, might attract a good amount of foreign audience if tastosis are casting but korean numbers have to be good for sponsors.


well just when we had the chance to mb get professional foreign casters back into Broodwar, there's a sharp decline. Less players advance from the prelims, less prize money and no sponsor. The last part is worrysome to me; if the annual big korean Starleague can't find a proper sponsor, it's sad times.

Looks like starleague.kr was updated today with VANT36.5 added under sponsor, so it's good to hear an outside sponsor is providing some financing.

Hopefully they're pleased with the exposure from the VNSL last year


Poll: BisuDagger Samples VANT products facecam stream?

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Your vote: BisuDagger Samples VANT products facecam stream?

(Vote): Yes



Make it so this time, do it for TLCMAT votes if you have to.
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deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
June 16 2016 08:03 GMT
#54
Praise be to BW!
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1668 Posts
June 16 2016 08:35 GMT
#55
On June 16 2016 08:34 HerbMon wrote:
I was just thinking about this today to! :D

Steep decline in prize money :/
^ really? who the freak cares. ITS BROOODWAR !!!!

Totally with you man

Great to see some more live tournaments. Scan, do yourself proud!
EleGant[AoV]
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19211 Posts
June 16 2016 10:36 GMT
#56
On June 16 2016 16:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 16:50 prech wrote:
On June 15 2016 22:01 Cele wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:08 Wrath wrote:
On June 15 2016 20:03 GTR wrote:
remember that this is afreeca and kongdoo ponying up the prize pool instead of a sponsor so it's pretty generous if you ask me


Agreed. Hopefully this one will be a blast and attract more sponsors for the next season.


hmm, might attract a good amount of foreign audience if tastosis are casting but korean numbers have to be good for sponsors.


well just when we had the chance to mb get professional foreign casters back into Broodwar, there's a sharp decline. Less players advance from the prelims, less prize money and no sponsor. The last part is worrysome to me; if the annual big korean Starleague can't find a proper sponsor, it's sad times.

Looks like starleague.kr was updated today with VANT36.5 added under sponsor, so it's good to hear an outside sponsor is providing some financing.

Hopefully they're pleased with the exposure from the VNSL last year


Poll: BisuDagger Samples VANT products facecam stream?

Yes (18)
 
100%

18 total votes

Your vote: BisuDagger Samples VANT products facecam stream?

(Vote): Yes



Make it so this time, do it for TLCMAT votes if you have to.

I'm in. Time to add video to my streams anyway. I'm also flailing my arms around when I speak and no one can see lol.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
June 16 2016 11:31 GMT
#57
Good news!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
June 16 2016 12:32 GMT
#58
Yay ill be in korea for the finals
Have a nice day ;)
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
June 16 2016 13:01 GMT
#59
On June 16 2016 21:32 Dumbledore wrote:
Yay ill be in korea for the finals


take pictures, prepare cheerfuls, give shoutouts.

And most importantly have fun!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
June 16 2016 13:10 GMT
#60
good to see VANT sponsor it again! Has the prize money been raised yet?
Broodwar for life!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-16 13:33:53
June 16 2016 13:18 GMT
#61
On June 16 2016 22:10 Cele wrote:
good to see VANT sponsor it again! Has the prize money been raised yet?


nothing has been said yet, but if it has, they should also increase the player pool to atleast 24 and seed the top 4 from the VNSL in the Ro16, which happens to contain both Bisu and ZerO the two people who have expressed doubt about participating, pretty much guaranteeing their participation.

of course rescheduling is going to be hard at this point.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
June 16 2016 18:13 GMT
#62
Speaking of seeds, a news article/press release came out yesterday. It looks like EffOrt and Bisu are being provided byes into the Ro16 as seeds based on their (Wiki)VNSL performances.

Also some mention of Flash and Best, I think about being likely participants?

Maybe some Korean speakers can confirm.

http://www.etnews.com/20160616000234
http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/300777

Liquipedia
dbssaber
Profile Joined September 2013
United States193 Posts
June 16 2016 19:16 GMT
#63
I'm excited!
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) STYLE START SBENU ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5588 Posts
June 16 2016 19:49 GMT
#64
cooool
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
June 16 2016 21:46 GMT
#65
On June 16 2016 22:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 21:32 Dumbledore wrote:
Yay ill be in korea for the finals


take pictures, prepare cheerfuls, give shoutouts.

And most importantly have fun!


Yes yes yes!!!!!!! <3333333333333
Shoutouts to blind rawr <3333333333333
Have a nice day ;)
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
June 16 2016 23:44 GMT
#66
English casting?
StarCraft | www.psistorm.com | www.twitter.com/MistakesSC | www.twitch.tv/MistakesSC | Seattle
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19211 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-17 03:16:40
June 17 2016 01:33 GMT
#67
On June 17 2016 03:13 prech wrote:
Speaking of seeds, a news article/press release came out yesterday. It looks like EffOrt and Bisu are being provided byes into the Ro16 as seeds based on their (Wiki)VNSL performances.

Also some mention of Flash and Best, I think about being likely participants?

Maybe some Korean speakers can confirm.

http://www.etnews.com/20160616000234
http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/300777


I'm sure blind-rawr will say Bisu dodged the qualifier.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-17 04:10:42
June 17 2016 01:48 GMT
#68
On June 17 2016 10:33 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 03:13 prech wrote:
Speaking of seeds, a news article/press release came out yesterday. It looks like EffOrt and Bisu are being provided byes into the Ro16 as seeds based on their (Wiki)VNSL performances.

Also some mention of Flash and Best, I think about being likely participants?

Maybe some Korean speakers can confirm.

http://www.etnews.com/20160616000234
http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/300777


I'm sure blind-rawr will say Bisu dodged the round of 16.


No, because hes in the Ro16.

if you're going to edit my post don't do a shoddy job of it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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JensWalker
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada20 Posts
June 17 2016 03:04 GMT
#69
I would be more than happy with just a cast by BisuDagger and amazingxkcd, but wonder if the sound could be more consistent in volume (compressed?) if possible
herO
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 17 2016 08:49 GMT
#70
On June 17 2016 10:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 10:33 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 17 2016 03:13 prech wrote:
Speaking of seeds, a news article/press release came out yesterday. It looks like EffOrt and Bisu are being provided byes into the Ro16 as seeds based on their (Wiki)VNSL performances.

Also some mention of Flash and Best, I think about being likely participants?

Maybe some Korean speakers can confirm.

http://www.etnews.com/20160616000234
http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/300777


I'm sure blind-rawr will say Bisu dodged the round of 16.


No, because hes in the Ro16.

if you're going to edit my post don't do a shoddy job of it.


Well, before the seed thing you did call him a dodger.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
June 17 2016 10:10 GMT
#71
Flash ftw! Awesome news!
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11285 Posts
June 17 2016 16:22 GMT
#72
I haven't even read the OP yet but I'm so excited about this. Fuck yeah!!!
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-17 20:42:29
June 17 2016 20:38 GMT
#73
Bisu need someone to spank him and dont let him access to afreeca until the end of the tournament so he become manly again and achieve win.
Luv ya BroodWar!
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16836 Posts
June 17 2016 20:52 GMT
#74
i can watch this live if it's possible
The Bomber boy
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
June 17 2016 20:58 GMT
#75
wow 15 grand huh?
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51398 Posts
June 19 2016 08:43 GMT
#76
Might throw Shark an email to see if I can get official permission to go to the Seoul qualifiers and Periscope the event.
Commentator
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
June 19 2016 11:33 GMT
#77
Are the qualifiers going to be streamed?
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Connor5620
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia200 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-20 02:00:36
June 20 2016 01:44 GMT
#78
i really hope i don't get any copyright strikes again ;p i guess we'll find out
Afreeca can i get a partnership/sponsor please? haha?
My Starcraft Youtube > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeRrw3-ebs-9qAujQyBl4bg
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 20 2016 01:57 GMT
#79
On June 19 2016 20:33 sabas123 wrote:
Are the qualifiers going to be streamed?


if they are, im casting it for sure
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
June 20 2016 10:55 GMT
#80
Woo! I'm really glad this is finally announced. I hope BW can rebuild the momentum we had earlier this year. It was so awesome to see so many people watching BW on Twitch, Tasteless & Artosis, Brood War trending on Twitter them announcing TWO leagues for 2016 ....and then the drought of nothing.

Oh well, enough of the whining, I'm excited for the future! I hope the schedule is nice enough for Bisudagger & xkcd can cast a lot of it.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 22 2016 00:00 GMT
#81
Arriving on 24th. Participating next day right away for me. T
t
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19211 Posts
June 22 2016 00:15 GMT
#82
On June 22 2016 09:00 LaStScan wrote:
Arriving on 24th. Participating next day right away for me. T
t

Awesome. Glad it got worked out. Johnny is the man.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 22 2016 00:18 GMT
#83
On June 22 2016 09:15 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2016 09:00 LaStScan wrote:
Arriving on 24th. Participating next day right away for me. T
t

Awesome. Glad it got worked out. Johnny is the man.


I appreciate your help I also talked to kongdoo company on fb directly as well.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
June 22 2016 02:33 GMT
#84
Scan Fighting!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
June 22 2016 07:43 GMT
#85
[image loading]

The qualifiers are going to be brutal -- ~600 down to 16? wow
Liquipedia
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
June 22 2016 07:51 GMT
#86
prelims bo1?
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-22 09:22:18
June 22 2016 08:15 GMT
#87
On June 22 2016 16:43 prech wrote:
[image loading]

The qualifiers are going to be brutal -- ~600 down to 16? wow


And people say BW does not have new blood. They are just drowned with all those ex-pros.

Can you please keep an eye on Jaedong? I'm sure he will participate.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51398 Posts
June 22 2016 08:26 GMT
#88
wtf the seoul qualifiers are literally in the middle of nowhere
Commentator
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 22 2016 10:07 GMT
#89
On June 22 2016 17:26 GTR wrote:
wtf the seoul qualifiers are literally in the middle of nowhere


Are you there yet? Were you able to see any games?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
June 22 2016 10:22 GMT
#90
the qualifers are on saturday and sunday.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-22 10:25:51
June 22 2016 10:25 GMT
#91
having new blood is meaningless when its a fight for 16 spots, there should be at least ro32 for them to have chance. Also non ex-pro tours are needed to support that.
Luv ya BroodWar!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11285 Posts
June 22 2016 12:02 GMT
#92
Wow tough schedule for Scan. Hoping for the best for you.

Glad to see many participating even though I doubt any non-pros will make it to the sweet 16. Happy to be proven wrong though ^_^
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
todespolka
Profile Joined November 2012
221 Posts
June 22 2016 12:29 GMT
#93
Are you sure they are young people? As I know in korea every young guy plays lol. Dont forget korea sold 4mio bw copies, Its clear that bw has still a big community of old fans.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11285 Posts
June 22 2016 12:42 GMT
#94
Has there been news on the maps that will be used in the qualifiers?
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
remag
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany354 Posts
June 22 2016 12:45 GMT
#95
On June 22 2016 21:42 c3rberUs wrote:
Has there been news on the maps that will be used in the qualifiers?

Yes its one the first page, Preliminary maps: Fighting Spirit, Circuit Breaker, Blue Storm.
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 22 2016 12:51 GMT
#96
On June 22 2016 17:26 GTR wrote:
wtf the seoul qualifiers are literally in the middle of nowhere


gonna take me 2 hours to get there....
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 22 2016 13:15 GMT
#97
On June 22 2016 16:43 prech wrote:
[image loading]

The qualifiers are going to be brutal -- ~600 down to 16? wow

Uh. Dont forget -4 for seeded players. So only 12 ppl are going to survive. There are more than 12 expros and its gonna be crazy.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6505 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-22 14:36:00
June 22 2016 14:33 GMT
#98
holyshieet only 12 places then ? lol,,i dont see Sea qualifying :D
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
June 22 2016 16:11 GMT
#99
On June 19 2016 17:43 GTR wrote:
Might throw Shark an email to see if I can get official permission to go to the Seoul qualifiers and Periscope the event.


Do they usually allow spectators for the qualifiers? I would like to go if it's possible, or else I will just wait for the ro16 ;p
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 22 2016 18:54 GMT
#100
I feel like they gonna split to 32 ppl each session and pick 1st 2nd. For example, if there is 320 ppl coming for seoul qualifer, then split to 10 sessions. So there will be 20 qualified players and plus same thing for pusan qualifier. Whatever the number of players qualified play against each other for until 12 players remaining.

Idk my basic idea could be wrong. Idk how they are gonna pull out 12 players out of 600 players.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-22 20:17:09
June 22 2016 18:58 GMT
#101
On June 23 2016 01:11 Essbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2016 17:43 GTR wrote:
Might throw Shark an email to see if I can get official permission to go to the Seoul qualifiers and Periscope the event.


Do they usually allow spectators for the qualifiers? I would like to go if it's possible, or else I will just wait for the ro16 ;p


Idk if u can come or not. Kongdoo probably bought like a day rent for that pc bang, and they will ask you to show your id to come in. Am I wrong? I can ask kongdoo company on fb page about this if you are planning to visit to watch. Idk
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51398 Posts
June 22 2016 23:54 GMT
#102
On June 23 2016 03:58 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 01:11 Essbee wrote:
On June 19 2016 17:43 GTR wrote:
Might throw Shark an email to see if I can get official permission to go to the Seoul qualifiers and Periscope the event.


Do they usually allow spectators for the qualifiers? I would like to go if it's possible, or else I will just wait for the ro16 ;p


Idk if u can come or not. Kongdoo probably bought like a day rent for that pc bang, and they will ask you to show your id to come in. Am I wrong? I can ask kongdoo company on fb page about this if you are planning to visit to watch. Idk


I was going to email Shark (CEO) in my broken Korean but if the venue is THAT far from Seoul (probably an hour train ride for me) I don't think it would be worth going anymore.
Commentator
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 02:44:56
June 23 2016 02:37 GMT
#103
+ Show Spoiler +

flash
last
sea
larva
kwanro
hero
mong
free
piano
shuttle
ssak
best
movie
sky
jaehoon
rush
guemchi
mind
ample
kal
hogil
hiya
lazy
iris
miso
britney
terror
tyson
shinee
major
rock
(trolling)mini
hyvaa
pure
trot
zeus


and thats just the former pros
qualifiers gonna be a fun slaughterfest
#whynostream
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
June 23 2016 03:06 GMT
#104
no zero?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
June 23 2016 03:07 GMT
#105
On June 23 2016 12:06 duke91 wrote:
no zero?


seeded
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 04:14:01
June 23 2016 03:34 GMT
#106
On June 23 2016 12:07 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 12:06 duke91 wrote:
no zero?


seeded


(P)Bisu (Z)EffOrt (T)Sharp (Z)ZerO seeded

why does mini bother with qualifiers if he can't play in the main tournament.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 04:28:42
June 23 2016 04:25 GMT
#107
On (T)JuNe 23 2016 12:34 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On (T)JuNe 23 2016 12:07 Probemicro wrote:
On (T)JuNe 23 2016 12:06 duke91 wrote:
no (Z)ZerO?


seeded


(P)Bisu (Z)EffOrt (T)Sharp (Z)ZerO seeded

why does (P)Mini bother with qualifiers if he can't play in the main tournament.

Only Bisu and (Z)EffOrt are seeded.
and (P)Bisu announced that he is withdrawing from asl. =(
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
June 23 2016 04:31 GMT
#108
On June 23 2016 13:25 classicyellow83 wrote:
Only Bisu and (Z)EffOrt are seeded.
and (P)Bisu announced that he is withdrawing from asl. =(


On June 22 2016 22:15 LaStScan wrote:
Uh. Dont forget -4 for seeded players.


??
at least officially states whos seeded on the main starleague.kr page or something kongdoo.
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 23 2016 04:46 GMT
#109
7 players from each prelims will qualify.
but if you get eliminated in seoul on saturday, you can try again in busan.
Many of the ex-progamers are planning to do this because seoul prelim will be insane since almost all of them live or live near seoul.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 23 2016 04:47 GMT
#110
No Jaedong right? Not that i expected him to participate.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
MarineCA1
Profile Joined June 2015
93 Posts
June 23 2016 04:48 GMT
#111
Im really sad about bisu though... god damn it.
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 23 2016 05:15 GMT
#112
List of notable players that are participating in the prelims.
<Terrran>
1. Flash 2. Sea 3. Last 4. Mind
5. Sharp 6. Mong 7. sSak 8. HiyA
11. Piano 12. Rush 13. shiney 14. Icarus
15. Ample 16. Iris 17. Light

<Protoss>
1. Best 2. Shuttle 3. Kal 4. Movie
5. Free 6. Geumchi 7. sky 8. jaehoon
9. Tyson
*Free might not participate due to his wrist and his age(army).

<Zerg>
1. zero 2. hero 3. larva 4. Miso 5. Hoejja

expecting brutal prelims
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 05:43:21
June 23 2016 05:40 GMT
#113
why is sharp in the prelims? shouldn't the seed go to him now that bisu is out? or is it now 15 spots?
plz some official word and not just hearsay
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 23 2016 05:43 GMT
#114
I haven't heard anything about bisu's empty spot.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
June 23 2016 05:59 GMT
#115
by.sun/rain not playing?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 23 2016 06:04 GMT
#116
On June 23 2016 14:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
by.sun/rain not playing?

He's a commentator for SC2 now. so... no.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
MarineCA1
Profile Joined June 2015
93 Posts
June 23 2016 06:04 GMT
#117
why there is less zergs ??
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 23 2016 06:07 GMT
#118
On June 23 2016 15:04 MarineCA1 wrote:
why there is less zergs ??

not that many ex-pro gamer zergs are active these days. they are arare breed on afreeca these days.
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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
June 23 2016 06:12 GMT
#119
^^Hopefully Kwanro will compete in the qualifiers. He's been on Afreeca every other day of late
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Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
June 23 2016 06:14 GMT
#120
On June 23 2016 03:58 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 01:11 Essbee wrote:
On June 19 2016 17:43 GTR wrote:
Might throw Shark an email to see if I can get official permission to go to the Seoul qualifiers and Periscope the event.


Do they usually allow spectators for the qualifiers? I would like to go if it's possible, or else I will just wait for the ro16 ;p


Idk if u can come or not. Kongdoo probably bought like a day rent for that pc bang, and they will ask you to show your id to come in. Am I wrong? I can ask kongdoo company on fb page about this if you are planning to visit to watch. Idk


Sorry for the late answer, but yeah, I would like to come, I can be your personal foreign supporter hahaha. No but seriously, ID is not a problem for me, I have an f6 visa (married to a korean). But like I said, if it's not possible, I can just skip this and wait for the ro16.
MarineCA1
Profile Joined June 2015
93 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 18:14:45
June 23 2016 06:36 GMT
#121
HerO vs Flash finals would be epic

EDIT: I meant Effort vs Flash
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 23 2016 06:55 GMT
#122
On June 23 2016 14:15 classicyellow83 wrote:
List of notable players that are participating in the prelims.
<Terrran>
1. Flash 2. Sea 3. Last 4. Mind
5. Sharp 6. Mong 7. sSak 8. HiyA
11. Piano 12. Rush 13. shiney 14. Icarus
15. Ample 16. Iris 17. Light

<Protoss>
1. Best 2. Shuttle 3. Kal 4. Movie
5. Free 6. Geumchi 7. sky 8. jaehoon
9. Tyson
*Free might not participate due to his wrist and his age(army).

<Zerg>
1. zero 2. hero 3. larva 4. Miso 5. Hoejja

expecting brutal prelims

Where is my name in terran list :o
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Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
June 23 2016 06:59 GMT
#123
On June 23 2016 15:55 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 14:15 classicyellow83 wrote:
List of notable players that are participating in the prelims.
<Terrran>
1. Flash 2. Sea 3. Last 4. Mind
5. Sharp 6. Mong 7. sSak 8. HiyA
11. Piano 12. Rush 13. shiney 14. Icarus
15. Ample 16. Iris 17. Light

<Protoss>
1. Best 2. Shuttle 3. Kal 4. Movie
5. Free 6. Geumchi 7. sky 8. jaehoon
9. Tyson
*Free might not participate due to his wrist and his age(army).

<Zerg>
1. zero 2. hero 3. larva 4. Miso 5. Hoejja

expecting brutal prelims

Where is my name in terran list :o


Haha you should be at no.1 instead of flash.
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 07:50:18
June 23 2016 07:28 GMT
#124
On June 23 2016 15:36 MarineCA1 wrote:
HerO vs Flash finals would be epic

Flash is 11:4 against hero this month. He 4:1'ed hero yesterday.

Flash's stats this month so far[/b]
TvT 11:7(61.1%)
TvZ 39:8(83.0%)
TvP 30:22(57.7%)

Players Flash Played Against
TvZ - Effort 9:3, Hero 11:4, Larva 11:1, Zero 6:0, Hoejja 2:0
TvT - Sea 6:2, sSak 0:1, Mong 2:2, Rush:1:0, HiYa 2:1, Last 0:1
TvP - Best 8:14, Bisu 8:3, Movie 3:2, Sky 1:0, Free 2:0, Shuttle 1:2,Guemchi 2:0, Kal 2:0, Jaehoon 3:1

Hero's stats this month so far
ZvT: 33:63(34.3%)
ZvP: 52:30(63.4%)
ZvZ: 3:2(60%)

[b]Player Hero Played Against
ZvT - Mind 4:15, Mong 1: 9, Flash 4:11, Sea 1:5, Last 1:4, Sharp 4:6, Piano 3:4, sSak 6:6, HiyA 2:2, Ample 2:1, Shiney 2:0, Rush 3:0
ZvP - Bisu 4:11, Noble 2:1, Best 9:7, shuttle 6:4, sky 3:1,GuemChi 3:1,free 6:3, kal 4:1, Tyson 4:0, Jaehoon 11:1
ZvZ - Zero 2:1, effort 1:1

Flash's TvZ this month is 39:8 this month. Freaking 83% while Hero's zvt this month is only 33:63 (34.3%).
It won't be epic. it will be a slaughter. Only Best has notable win rate against Flash, beating flash 14:8. It was worse than this earlier this month but Flash is catching up to Best little by little.
No zerg is gonna beat Flash. His TvZ is getting better day by day. you can notice this if you watch his stream. it's freaking amazing. His weakest was TvP but hes getting back into form in TvP as well. I don't see anyone beating Flash in bo5 other than Best or Last(Last had the highest win rate in the month of March and April, well over 70% and has the second highest win rate this month behind bisu. Flash is 3rd). If it weren't for Best Flash would be first. It's funny how Last is strong against Best but weak against Bisu, but Flash is Strong against Bisu but weak against Best.
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 23 2016 07:29 GMT
#125
On June 23 2016 15:55 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 14:15 classicyellow83 wrote:
List of notable players that are participating in the prelims.
<Terrran>
1. Flash 2. Sea 3. Last 4. Mind
5. Sharp 6. Mong 7. sSak 8. HiyA
11. Piano 12. Rush 13. shiney 14. Icarus
15. Ample 16. Iris 17. Light

<Protoss>
1. Best 2. Shuttle 3. Kal 4. Movie
5. Free 6. Geumchi 7. sky 8. jaehoon
9. Tyson
*Free might not participate due to his wrist and his age(army).

<Zerg>
1. zero 2. hero 3. larva 4. Miso 5. Hoejja

expecting brutal prelims

Where is my name in terran list :o

Sorry.... =(
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 07:57:38
June 23 2016 07:57 GMT
#126
only BeSt and last have a winning record against flash, and with last its only 1 game so really its only BeSt, wow, just wow.

thanks for that statistics classicyellow
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 23 2016 08:03 GMT
#127
On June 23 2016 16:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
only BeSt and last have a winning record against flash, and with last its only 1 game so really its only BeSt, wow, just wow.

thanks for that statistics classicyellow

no problem. sorry for my horrible posting skills. ^^;;;;;;
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 23 2016 08:25 GMT
#128
Here are stats for Bisu and Last so far in June (for those of you who are interested)

Bisu
PvT : 24:13 (64.8%)
PvZ - 32:7 (82%)
PvP - 9:2 (81.8%)
Overal - 65:22 (74.7%)

Terran - Flash 3:8, sSak 2:1, HiYa 1:0, Last 4:2, Mong 2:0, Sharp 5:2, Sea 7:0

Zerg - Effort 7:2, Larva 6:0, Hero 11:4, Zero 8:1

Protss - Movie 1:2, Rock 1:0, Guemchi 1:0, Britney 1:0, Free 1:0, Shuttle 2:0, Best 2:0

Last
TvP - 46:17 (73%)
TvZ - 25:8 (75.7%)
TvT - 14:12 (53.8%)
Overall - 85:37(69.6%)

Protoss - Bisu 2:4, Guemchi 1:1, Kal 1:0, Jaehoon 3:1, Movie 3:0, Tyson 5:1, Free 5:0, Best 10:3, Shuttle 16:7

Zerg - Hero 4:1, Effort 8:4, Larva 6:2, Hero 7:1

Terran - Icarus 0:2, Mind 2:3, sSak 0:1, Sharp 2:2, Iris 3:2, FLash 1:0, HiYa 4:2, Shiney 2:0
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 08:53:16
June 23 2016 08:52 GMT
#129
Since the return of Flash, every single Terrans are copying flash's TvZ and all of the zerg's are getting destroyed by terrans.
Only Effort has winning record against Terrans with 37 win and 33 losses this month. It's seems like it's getting worse and worse everyday.

Protoss has a hard time as well. Every Zerg player is copying Hero and running over Protoss. Bisu is the only Protoss that beats zergs these days.

Terran on the other hand is doing just fine. 4 out of top 5 players this month are Terrans.

I hope it's not a TvT startleague.
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 23 2016 09:05 GMT
#130
I heard it from sharps stream just now. Sharp is getting the seed.
It's also mentioned on ygosu source
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_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
June 23 2016 11:19 GMT
#131
Well, if Flash destroys all, he will solidify his bw god status forever u guess.
I can understand bisu discouraged by last tournaments he lost, or the need to take some air off the pressure of tournaments, maybe hes getting tired.
The real problem is, that there is not enough leagues for all the players to compete, that discourages them to practice hard and by that the overal form of the players decreaces. We need at least 3 big tournaments with 32 players per year to support somewhat healthy scene.
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Connor5620
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia200 Posts
June 23 2016 12:54 GMT
#132
On June 23 2016 15:36 MarineCA1 wrote:
HerO vs Flash finals would be epic


i would rather have effort in place of hero - in turns of TvZ/ZvT skill effort is better -
where hero is better with ZvZ and ZvP (imo)
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
June 23 2016 14:11 GMT
#133
On June 23 2016 17:52 classicyellow83 wrote:
Since the return of Flash, every single Terrans are copying flash's TvZ and all of the zerg's are getting destroyed by terrans.
Only Effort has winning record against Terrans with 37 win and 33 losses this month. It's seems like it's getting worse and worse everyday.

Protoss has a hard time as well. Every Zerg player is copying Hero and running over Protoss. Bisu is the only Protoss that beats zergs these days.

Terran on the other hand is doing just fine. 4 out of top 5 players this month are Terrans.

I hope it's not a TvT startleague.


Is it because of FS or not?
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
June 23 2016 14:14 GMT
#134
On June 23 2016 20:19 _Animus_ wrote:
Well, if Flash destroys all, he will solidify his bw god status forever u guess.
I can understand bisu discouraged by last tournaments he lost, or the need to take some air off the pressure of tournaments, maybe hes getting tired.
The real problem is, that there is not enough leagues for all the players to compete, that discourages them to practice hard and by that the overal form of the players decreaces. We need at least 3 big tournaments with 32 players per year to support somewhat healthy scene.


proleague is where it is
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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 23 2016 14:25 GMT
#135
My flight starts in exactly 7 hours for me -_-.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 15:07:31
June 23 2016 14:51 GMT
#136
On June 23 2016 23:14 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 20:19 _Animus_ wrote:
Well, if Flash destroys all, he will solidify his bw god status forever u guess.
I can understand bisu discouraged by last tournaments he lost, or the need to take some air off the pressure of tournaments, maybe hes getting tired.
The real problem is, that there is not enough leagues for all the players to compete, that discourages them to practice hard and by that the overal form of the players decreaces. We need at least 3 big tournaments with 32 players per year to support somewhat healthy scene.


proleague is where it is


clan wars could be possible right now, well they do happen and sometimes theres a broadcast but unless theres some money and some high profile players(actually from what I understand high profiler players do play occasionally) I don't think its very likely, although its something to communicate with organizers.

but something on the level of proleague would be impossible.
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_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
June 23 2016 14:51 GMT
#137
On June 23 2016 23:14 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 20:19 _Animus_ wrote:
Well, if Flash destroys all, he will solidify his bw god status forever u guess.
I can understand bisu discouraged by last tournaments he lost, or the need to take some air off the pressure of tournaments, maybe hes getting tired.
The real problem is, that there is not enough leagues for all the players to compete, that discourages them to practice hard and by that the overal form of the players decreaces. We need at least 3 big tournaments with 32 players per year to support somewhat healthy scene.


proleague is where it is

proleague is best format, because new players also will get to playt, but i dont see it happening. it requires a big organisation which nobody wants to take care of.
Luv ya BroodWar!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10096 Posts
June 23 2016 17:59 GMT
#138
oh lord why is blue storm in this map pool. rip non-terrans.
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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 23 2016 18:27 GMT
#139
On June 24 2016 02:59 FlaShFTW wrote:
oh lord why is blue storm in this map pool. rip non-terrans.


Rip for protoss for sure. Z and T will fly.
I remember sea.kh? Beating hero on bluestorm. It was a nice dark archon play.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 23 2016 18:53 GMT
#140
I think bisu is not going to play.
Sharp and effort are seeded players.
Accepting 7 seoul qualified players and 7 from pusan.

Here's link that someone posted about it.
m.ygosu.com
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 02:13:11
June 24 2016 02:11 GMT
#141
Effort, Zero, Hero, and Larva are considered top 4 Zergs in Korea.

Here are their stats against Terran in June so far...

1) Effort 43W 37L(53.7%)

2) Zero 37W 46L(44.5%)

3) Hero 38W 69L(35.5%)

4) Larva 9W 32L(21.9%)

Source

God have mercy on these Zergs.....
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
June 24 2016 02:52 GMT
#142
maybe its time for the zergs to have a council meeting to defeat terrans.
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 03:17:09
June 24 2016 03:13 GMT
#143
schedule is out
starts at 10am KST for both days
7 groups per day (1 winner per group for 14 spots, as expected)

[image loading]
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-25 01:41:42
June 24 2016 03:24 GMT
#144
Seoul

Group A
(T)Scan
(Z)ZeLoT
(T)Mind
(T)Mong
(P)Shuttle
(Z)Bale
(P)Sky
(Z)yerim2
(Z)By.Spire
(P)Pianist
(P)Noble

Group B
(Z)hero
(T)sSak
(T)Light
(Z)beast

Group C
(T)Sea
(P)Jaehoon
(Z)MisO
(Z)Kwanro
(P)Luna

Group D
(P)GuemChi
(P)Best
(P)Olympus

Group E
(P)Movie
(P)free
(T)Last
(P)eNvy.Bisu
(P)Britney
(Z)HoeJJa
(T)donggle
(T)KangTaeWan
(T)Minam

Group F
(T)Icarus
(T)HiyA
(P)Kal
(Z)Larva
(T)Rush
(Z)ZerO
(T)PianO
(Z)Soma

Group G
(T)Flash
(T)Iris
(T)Ample
(P)Pure
(P)Changers
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 03:55:13
June 24 2016 03:30 GMT
#145
Predictions:

A:(T)Mind
B:(Z)hero
C:(P)Best
D:Fo Shizzle, but broejja pls.
E:(P)Movie
F:(P)Kal / (Z)Larva
G:(T)Flash
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 04:13:00
June 24 2016 03:30 GMT
#146
Guemchi is in Group D and Last is in Group G
Update: Last isn't in Group G. He's in Group E.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 03:32:20
June 24 2016 03:31 GMT
#147
On June 24 2016 12:30 classicyellow83 wrote:
Guemchi is in Group B and Last is in Group G


god damn it last, move to group D somehow.
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 24 2016 03:32 GMT
#148
On June 24 2016 12:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 12:30 classicyellow83 wrote:
Guemchi is in Group B and Last is in Group G


why is last in group G....move to group D pls

They put Top 2 Terran in same group. one of them is going to busan.
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
June 24 2016 03:33 GMT
#149
all the pros get to play in busan if they fail in seoul anyway
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 24 2016 03:35 GMT
#150
On June 24 2016 12:33 Probemicro wrote:
all the pros get to play in busan if they fail in seoul anyway

If they signed up for busan as well. HiYa didn't sign up for busan. I don't know about other players.
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
June 24 2016 03:36 GMT
#151
On June 24 2016 12:35 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 12:33 Probemicro wrote:
all the pros get to play in busan if they fail in seoul anyway

If they signed up for busan as well. HiYa didn't sign up for busan. I don't know about other players.


well i guess the vast majority did sign up for both
hiya is hiya lol
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 24 2016 03:37 GMT
#152
On June 24 2016 12:36 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 12:35 classicyellow83 wrote:
On June 24 2016 12:33 Probemicro wrote:
all the pros get to play in busan if they fail in seoul anyway

If they signed up for busan as well. HiYa didn't sign up for busan. I don't know about other players.


well i guess the vast majority did sign up for both
hiya is hiya lol

Im watching Tyson's Stream right now. After looking at his group, hes like "im not going". im not sure hes foreal
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 03:51:17
June 24 2016 03:40 GMT
#153
After finding out Zero isn't going to Seoul.
HiYa - "That is a wise decision"
LOL HiYa
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 24 2016 04:16 GMT
#154
On June 24 2016 12:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 12:30 classicyellow83 wrote:
Guemchi is in Group B and Last is in Group G


god damn it last, move to group D somehow.

Ygosu made a mistake Last is in Group E.
This guarantees Flash's advance.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
June 24 2016 04:22 GMT
#155
whos eNvy.Bisu?
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 24 2016 04:32 GMT
#156
Each match is bo3. This is gonna take ALL day unless they rented the entire pc bang.
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 04:38:43
June 24 2016 04:36 GMT
#157
On June 24 2016 13:32 classicyellow83 wrote:
Each match is bo3. This is gonna take ALL day unless they rented the entire pc bang.


so similar to vnsl last year, first day lasted till evening i recall. not terrible really
the only qualm is that no one wants to set up a stream to show a few featured matches or even a livecam there.
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
June 24 2016 05:00 GMT
#158
On June 24 2016 12:40 classicyellow83 wrote:
After finding out Zero isn't going to Seoul.
HiYa - "That is a wise decision"
LOL HiYa


Watching ZerO's streaming now, isn't he in group F?

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/306252
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 24 2016 05:03 GMT
#159
On June 24 2016 14:00 prech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 12:40 classicyellow83 wrote:
After finding out Zero isn't going to Seoul.
HiYa - "That is a wise decision"
LOL HiYa


Watching ZerO's streaming now, isn't he in group F?

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/306252

Yeah hes in group F. Ygosu just updated it.
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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 05:25:46
June 24 2016 05:25 GMT
#160
^^Great, thanks

I hope the qualifiers will be updated in real time like last season, like on Challonge or something

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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 05:36:38
June 24 2016 05:35 GMT
#161
Predictions :

Group A: Mong
Group B: herO
Group C: Jaehoon
Group D: Best
Group E: Last
Group F: HiyA
Group G: Flash
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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
June 24 2016 06:42 GMT
#162
Looks like the Ygosu investigators identified some more notable participants:

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/306357

PianO in group F, perhaps some more names
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 06:46:08
June 24 2016 06:45 GMT
#163
i saw (Z)beast in group B, im pretty sure his army service isn't over yet?
doing a Mini i suppose
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 24 2016 10:02 GMT
#164
Beast is having fun. I confirmed my group just now. Im in a group A.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
June 24 2016 10:26 GMT
#165
Don't lose to ZeLot
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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 24 2016 11:07 GMT
#166
On June 24 2016 19:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Don't lose to ZeLot

Overall score, I am better than him, but I cannot underestimate him as well. Thanks!
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
June 24 2016 11:38 GMT
#167
Holy brutal preliminaries, why it's so tight. Can't we start from ro32 or like SSL Challenge round then ro24. Flash got pretty noob group then. Too bad for Scan to get this king of challenge in his 1st (?) attempt for starleague. Just make wraiths and vessels against Zelot crazy zerg, he only knows and improvises same build as far as I see.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
June 24 2016 11:48 GMT
#168
On June 24 2016 20:38 outscar wrote:
Holy brutal preliminaries, why it's so tight. Can't we start from ro32 or like SSL Challenge round then ro24. Flash got pretty noob group then. Too bad for Scan to get this king of challenge in his 1st (?) attempt for starleague. Just make wraiths and vessels against Zelot crazy zerg, he only knows and improvises same build as far as I see.


zelot is not afraid of playing any pro. hes cheesy style is one dimensional but its very solid to often take games off pros who likes to play rigid macro style and hardly meet much cheesers at the top of the ladder.
though said watching his stream hes gonna lose terribly if he meets shuttle, shuttle knows exactly every build he can do. he always loses to shuttle lol. by now mind and mong should also know what his style is about as well.

zelot is the least of scan's worries really.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
June 24 2016 13:25 GMT
#169
GL scan, ver tough group.
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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 24 2016 13:26 GMT
#170
On June 24 2016 20:48 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 20:38 outscar wrote:
Holy brutal preliminaries, why it's so tight. Can't we start from ro32 or like SSL Challenge round then ro24. Flash got pretty noob group then. Too bad for Scan to get this king of challenge in his 1st (?) attempt for starleague. Just make wraiths and vessels against Zelot crazy zerg, he only knows and improvises same build as far as I see.


zelot is not afraid of playing any pro. hes cheesy style is one dimensional but its very solid to often take games off pros who likes to play rigid macro style and hardly meet much cheesers at the top of the ladder.
though said watching his stream hes gonna lose terribly if he meets shuttle, shuttle knows exactly every build he can do. he always loses to shuttle lol. by now mind and mong should also know what his style is about as well.

zelot is the least of scan's worries really.

What a good way to downgrade me -_-..
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
June 24 2016 13:27 GMT
#171
On June 24 2016 22:26 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 20:48 Probemicro wrote:
On June 24 2016 20:38 outscar wrote:
Holy brutal preliminaries, why it's so tight. Can't we start from ro32 or like SSL Challenge round then ro24. Flash got pretty noob group then. Too bad for Scan to get this king of challenge in his 1st (?) attempt for starleague. Just make wraiths and vessels against Zelot crazy zerg, he only knows and improvises same build as far as I see.


zelot is not afraid of playing any pro. hes cheesy style is one dimensional but its very solid to often take games off pros who likes to play rigid macro style and hardly meet much cheesers at the top of the ladder.
though said watching his stream hes gonna lose terribly if he meets shuttle, shuttle knows exactly every build he can do. he always loses to shuttle lol. by now mind and mong should also know what his style is about as well.

zelot is the least of scan's worries really.

What a good way to downgrade me -_-..


eh when i said "he" i meant zelot not you lol/
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6167 Posts
June 24 2016 13:44 GMT
#172
Predictions:

Group A
(T)Mind
Group B
(Z)hero
Group C
(T)Sea
Group D
(P)GuemChi
Group E
(T)Last
Group F
(Z)ZerO
Group G
(T)Flash
tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
354 Posts
June 24 2016 13:45 GMT
#173
it would be awesome to see scan go far in this tourney

gl hf scan!
Larva appears to have gone for a 3 hatch spire into lurker into hive before muta, into defiler guardian...off 2 base...
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
June 24 2016 14:36 GMT
#174
seoul brackets are out on challonge!
a to g
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 24 2016 22:10 GMT
#175
Sharp is going to stream. Check his stream out later.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6505 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 22:30:23
June 24 2016 22:29 GMT
#176
On June 25 2016 07:10 LaStScan wrote:
Sharp is going to stream. Check his stream out later.

Scan i think u didnt rest well for this ;;

but i wish u best of luck,that competition lvl is what u are made for ^^
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 24 2016 22:57 GMT
#177
On June 25 2016 07:29 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 07:10 LaStScan wrote:
Sharp is going to stream. Check his stream out later.

Scan i think u didnt rest well for this ;;

but i wish u best of luck,that competition lvl is what u are made for ^^


Uh. I sleep really short. Had a tough schedule in school. Always had to get up before 7:00am. My body is pretty much used to it.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 24 2016 22:58 GMT
#178
On June 25 2016 07:57 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 07:29 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:10 LaStScan wrote:
Sharp is going to stream. Check his stream out later.

Scan i think u didnt rest well for this ;;

but i wish u best of luck,that competition lvl is what u are made for ^^


Uh. I sleep really short. Had a tough schedule in school. Always had to get up before 7:00am. My body is pretty much used to it.


Good luck.
cha0
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada504 Posts
June 24 2016 23:40 GMT
#179
So is it still possible that Jaedong is there registered as one of the noname accounts?
Snow2
Profile Joined June 2016
9 Posts
June 25 2016 00:35 GMT
#180
On June 25 2016 08:40 cha0 wrote:
So is it still possible that Jaedong is there registered as one of the noname accounts?


I think it is very unlikely, we probably would know it by now. My inner fanboy was also thinking the same just a moment ago.

Also good luck Scan!
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
June 25 2016 05:59 GMT
#181
Seems like there is a livestream
https://www.twitch.tv/bgvrtc
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KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1757 Posts
June 25 2016 06:53 GMT
#182
how come effort isnt playing
asdasdasdasdasd123123123
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
June 25 2016 07:34 GMT
#183
On June 25 2016 15:53 ICanFlyLow wrote:
how come effort isnt playing

already seeded into Ro16
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 25 2016 07:47 GMT
#184
Bisu.... You asshole.... Why are you streaming the qualifiers and not playing at all T_T
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 25 2016 07:58 GMT
#185
that ragequit from larva was funny af
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 25 2016 08:06 GMT
#186
On June 25 2016 16:58 amazingxkcd wrote:
that ragequit from larva was funny af


What rage quit? Didn't he win?
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
June 25 2016 08:11 GMT
#187
On June 25 2016 17:01 classicyellow83 wrote:
piano advances 2:0

but.... here is what happened.... piano won the first game on fighting spirit. 2nd game was on circuit breaker. it went to late game and larva having 5 gas expansions to piano's 1 mineral expansion. the pc bang owner accidently turns off piano's computer. so they have to do the 2nd game again. Larva is pissed off throwing his headset. The regame starts. Piano does proxy 8rax cheese. piano wins. Larva turns off his stream......

I'd be fucking pissed as hell. This is so unfair....

People on Ygosu are going crazy.....

Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 25 2016 10:49 GMT
#188
...

That's unacceptable bullshit. It is clearly the fault of the PC Bang and the regame is not fair because making it from like 90% of winning chance to 50% for larva. If anything, it should have been re with larva 4 drones and piano 1 scv.

Anyway the real question now. Can BeSt hold the Protoss flag for the whole tournament and win vs flash in the finals?
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
June 25 2016 13:10 GMT
#189
Larva is one of the most hard training players and he gets this BS because of stupid owner of pc bang. I would kill him and only after then go to Busan...
sunbeams are never made like me...
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11285 Posts
June 25 2016 13:17 GMT
#190
On June 25 2016 17:11 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 17:01 classicyellow83 wrote:
piano advances 2:0

but.... here is what happened.... piano won the first game on fighting spirit. 2nd game was on circuit breaker. it went to late game and larva having 5 gas expansions to piano's 1 mineral expansion. the pc bang owner accidently turns off piano's computer. so they have to do the 2nd game again. Larva is pissed off throwing his headset. The regame starts. Piano does proxy 8rax cheese. piano wins. Larva turns off his stream......

I'd be fucking pissed as hell. This is so unfair....

People on Ygosu are going crazy.....


Are we supposed to accept this kind of thing? :S wtf
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51398 Posts
June 25 2016 23:41 GMT
#191
Why are people putting all of the blame on the PC bang owner? Some of it should go to the Kongdoo referee responsible for the decision.
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 26 2016 00:54 GMT
#192
So what happened to Larva now? Did he go to Busan or that's it he is screwed?
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-26 02:12:30
June 26 2016 00:57 GMT
#193
Busan Qualifiers

Notable Players
Group A
(T)Scan
(P)Kal
(Z)MisO
(T)sSak

Group B
(T)Shinee
(Z)ZeLoT
(T)Rush
(Z)ZerO
(T)Ample
(P)Pure

Group C
(Z)Spire
(P)Movie
(P)Lazy
(Z)HoeJJa
(T)Sea
(Z)Kwanro

Group D
(T)Last
(Z)Bale
(P)Olympus
(P)Mini

Group E
(P)Britney
(Z)Terror
(Z)Larva

Group F
(P)Shuttle
(P)GuemChi

Group G
(T)Mong
(P)Sky
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
June 26 2016 02:26 GMT
#194
(T)Scan has beaten (Z)MisO 2-1 in round 2!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
June 26 2016 02:37 GMT
#195
lol better than sea.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 26 2016 02:42 GMT
#196
Larva has an easy group. Lets go Scan and Shinee!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11285 Posts
June 26 2016 02:43 GMT
#197
Larva is currently hopping around the PC Bang in Busan. It looks like he set up Chulgu's web cam for him. I'm going to root so hard.

LOL I just realized Group E is Group (Afreeca) Entertainment
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
June 26 2016 02:58 GMT
#198
On June 26 2016 08:41 GTR wrote:
Why are people putting all of the blame on the PC bang owner? Some of it should go to the Kongdoo referee responsible for the decision.

Reminds me of the Nate MSL finals where the power went out during game 3. Instead of a remake they gave JD the win since he was ahead.

On June 24 2016 03:27 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 02:59 FlaShFTW wrote:
oh lord why is blue storm in this map pool. rip non-terrans.


Rip for protoss for sure. Z and T will fly.

This is a newbie question, but how come? Statisticly this map seems decently balanced :S
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11285 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-26 03:54:37
June 26 2016 03:36 GMT
#199
It's very easy to split map for T so PvT becomes reallly difficult for protoss.

I can't tell how PvZ is harder than usual though.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
June 26 2016 07:00 GMT
#200
On June 26 2016 12:36 c3rberUs wrote:
It's very easy to split map for T so PvT becomes reallly difficult for protoss.

I can't tell how PvZ is harder than usual though.

Oh ok thanks

On a sitenote: Larva just won 2-1 over Terror
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
June 26 2016 13:45 GMT
#201
Are there any english commentaries for these matches somewhere?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
June 26 2016 14:29 GMT
#202
On June 26 2016 22:45 RoomOfMush wrote:
Are there any english commentaries for these matches somewhere?


don't worry these were only the qualifiers, there was barely any stream.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
June 26 2016 15:40 GMT
#203
But will there be? Would be a shame if there was no english commentary for these games. I always find it more enjoyable with commentary I can understand.
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 26 2016 16:53 GMT
#204
On June 27 2016 00:40 RoomOfMush wrote:
But will there be? Would be a shame if there was no english commentary for these games. I always find it more enjoyable with commentary I can understand.

Me too!! wait... I'm fluent in Korean.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-27 02:53:29
June 27 2016 02:47 GMT
#205
theres a calendar schedule of the ASL now available on starleague.kr
(date only for now, no time)

27 June
Photo shoot

10 July
(sunday)
Group selection ceremony

17, 19, 24, 26, 31 July
2 August
(every sunday and tuesday)
Round of 16

7 August
(sunday)
Tiebreaker day


14, 16, 21, 23 Aug
(every sunday and tuesday)
Round of 8

28, 30 Aug
(sunday and tuesday)
Round of 4

4 Sept
(sunday)
Finals
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
June 27 2016 05:27 GMT
#206
Nice, looking forward to the group selection, ~two weeks

Looks like activity days are Sundays and Tuesdays
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
June 27 2016 05:30 GMT
#207
also 6 days for Ro16 means Round robin and not dual tournament (thank god).
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
June 27 2016 05:44 GMT
#208
On June 27 2016 14:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
also 6 days for Ro16 means Round robin and not dual tournament (thank god).

Good call, will update top post and LP
Liquipedia
MarineCA1
Profile Joined June 2015
93 Posts
June 27 2016 06:49 GMT
#209
On June 27 2016 11:47 Probemicro wrote:
theres a calendar schedule of the ASL now available on starleague.kr
(date only for now, no time)

27 June
Photo shoot

10 July
(sunday)
Group selection ceremony

17, 19, 24, 26, 31 July
2 August
(every sunday and tuesday)
Round of 16

7 August
(sunday)
Tiebreaker day


14, 16, 21, 23 Aug
(every sunday and tuesday)
Round of 8

28, 30 Aug
(sunday and tuesday)
Round of 4

4 Sept
(sunday)
Finals


will ro16 be streamed in english ???
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
June 27 2016 07:12 GMT
#210
nothing regarding english casting and streams has been announced yet.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
June 27 2016 09:30 GMT
#211
photo shoot now being streamed by Mong

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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 27 2016 09:45 GMT
#212
On June 27 2016 18:30 Probemicro wrote:
photo shoot now being streamed by Mong

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Thank yoU~
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 27 2016 13:51 GMT
#213
On June 27 2016 16:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
nothing regarding english casting and streams has been announced yet.


thats being worked on atm. more details to come shortly
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
June 28 2016 20:36 GMT
#214
Looks like all the photo session pictures have been shared to the Kongdoo Facebook:

[image loading]

https://www.facebook.com/kongdoo/photos_stream
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
June 28 2016 21:26 GMT
#215
Wow so badass photos. Especially Flash looks scary and Best standing like a boss.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
June 28 2016 22:59 GMT
#216
nice shots, they really put some effort into looking fierce
Broodwar for life!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11285 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-28 23:42:00
June 28 2016 23:40 GMT
#217
Instead of looking fierce, Jaehoon is posing for 'next kpop sensation'.

BeSt is quite simply badass in this.

Is this the photoshoot Bisu mentioned in the other thread? I hope it's another event :3

edit - EffOrt looks like he just killed someone. Damn
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-29 00:19:14
June 29 2016 00:15 GMT
#218
On June 29 2016 08:40 c3rberUs wrote:
Instead of looking fierce, Jaehoon is posing for 'next kpop sensation'.

BeSt is quite simply badass in this.

Is this the photoshoot Bisu mentioned in the other thread? I hope it's another event :3

edit - EffOrt looks like he just killed someone. Damn


Just wanted to post about Jaehoon but thought someone else will gonna do it. At least in posing he isn't falihooning that far. Sea with his "choker" stand, very funny. Mong looks like a pig. Mind looks like terminator.
Also by.hero's look says "You know I'm good at it, I'll show you".
sunbeams are never made like me...
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19211 Posts
July 04 2016 16:48 GMT
#219
Anyone know what the maps for this tournament will be besides the standard 3?
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
July 05 2016 02:45 GMT
#220
^^Pretty sure no new maps for the Ro16 groups. I watch streams every day and I haven't see any new maps being practiced. At the same time, lots of Blue Storm being played, so that should continue

Maybe a Korean speaker can confirm, but it sounds like PianO mentions the two new ones, Taekbaek Mountains and Overwatch, won't be added until the bracket/finals

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/314232/
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
July 05 2016 04:04 GMT
#221
On July 05 2016 11:45 prech wrote:
^^Pretty sure no new maps for the Ro16 groups. I watch streams every day and I haven't see any new maps being practiced. At the same time, lots of Blue Storm being played, so that should continue

Maybe a Korean speaker can confirm, but it sounds like PianO mentions the two new ones, Taekbaek Mountains and Overwatch, won't be added until the bracket/finals

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/314232/

He's saying one of the map from the qualifiers will be omitted to add the 2 new maps.
He also said during his stream that he'll start practicing the new maps as soon as the the finalized versions come out.
If I'm not wrong i think the current versions are .99.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
July 05 2016 04:05 GMT
#222
On July 05 2016 13:04 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 11:45 prech wrote:
^^Pretty sure no new maps for the Ro16 groups. I watch streams every day and I haven't see any new maps being practiced. At the same time, lots of Blue Storm being played, so that should continue

Maybe a Korean speaker can confirm, but it sounds like PianO mentions the two new ones, Taekbaek Mountains and Overwatch, won't be added until the bracket/finals

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/314232/

He's saying one of the map from the qualifiers will be omitted to add the 2 new maps.
He also said during his stream that he'll start practicing the new maps as soon as the the finalized versions come out.
If I'm not wrong i think the current versions are .99.
Hope this helps you.

Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
July 05 2016 05:41 GMT
#223
On July 05 2016 13:04 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 11:45 prech wrote:
^^Pretty sure no new maps for the Ro16 groups. I watch streams every day and I haven't see any new maps being practiced. At the same time, lots of Blue Storm being played, so that should continue

Maybe a Korean speaker can confirm, but it sounds like PianO mentions the two new ones, Taekbaek Mountains and Overwatch, won't be added until the bracket/finals

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/314232/

He's saying one of the map from the qualifiers will be omitted to add the 2 new maps.
He also said during his stream that he'll start practicing the new maps as soon as the the finalized versions come out.
If I'm not wrong i think the current versions are .99.
Hope this helps you.


Very helpful, thanks. To clarify, the two new maps are to be added later in the tournament, not for the initial group round? Or is PianO not explicit about the timing, just that at some point, they'll be added?
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-05 06:58:39
July 05 2016 06:15 GMT
#224
On July 05 2016 14:41 prech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 13:04 classicyellow83 wrote:
On July 05 2016 11:45 prech wrote:
^^Pretty sure no new maps for the Ro16 groups. I watch streams every day and I haven't see any new maps being practiced. At the same time, lots of Blue Storm being played, so that should continue

Maybe a Korean speaker can confirm, but it sounds like PianO mentions the two new ones, Taekbaek Mountains and Overwatch, won't be added until the bracket/finals

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/314232/

He's saying one of the map from the qualifiers will be omitted to add the 2 new maps.
He also said during his stream that he'll start practicing the new maps as soon as the the finalized versions come out.
If I'm not wrong i think the current versions are .99.
Hope this helps you.


Very helpful, thanks. To clarify, the two new maps are to be added later in the tournament, not for the initial group round? Or is PianO not explicit about the timing, just that at some point, they'll be added?

Remeber FS, CB, BS was used in the qualifiers? One of those maps will be omitted and 2 new maps will be added to the ro16. Piano thinks Blue Storm will get omitted since it's rare to see two two-player maps in one tournament.
The finalized versions of the maps are not out yet. That is why no one is practicing the new maps. They simply don't have the maps.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19211 Posts
July 05 2016 07:40 GMT
#225
On July 05 2016 15:15 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 14:41 prech wrote:
On July 05 2016 13:04 classicyellow83 wrote:
On July 05 2016 11:45 prech wrote:
^^Pretty sure no new maps for the Ro16 groups. I watch streams every day and I haven't see any new maps being practiced. At the same time, lots of Blue Storm being played, so that should continue

Maybe a Korean speaker can confirm, but it sounds like PianO mentions the two new ones, Taekbaek Mountains and Overwatch, won't be added until the bracket/finals

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/314232/

He's saying one of the map from the qualifiers will be omitted to add the 2 new maps.
He also said during his stream that he'll start practicing the new maps as soon as the the finalized versions come out.
If I'm not wrong i think the current versions are .99.
Hope this helps you.


Very helpful, thanks. To clarify, the two new maps are to be added later in the tournament, not for the initial group round? Or is PianO not explicit about the timing, just that at some point, they'll be added?

Remeber FS, CB, BS was used in the qualifiers? One of those maps will be omitted and 2 new maps will be added to the ro16. Piano thinks Blue Storm will get omitted since it's rare to see two two-player maps in one tournament.
The finalized versions of the maps are not out yet. That is why no one is practicing the new maps. They simply don't have the maps.

Awesome, thanks for the info! Does anyone have download links to the new maps? I'd love to test the most current versions so I'm ready to cast them. Also, if anyone has vods of pros playing the new maps please link them!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1526 Posts
July 05 2016 08:41 GMT
#226
Both new maps have their own respective threads here on TL, just look for them. The current versions are just gruesomely badly made... So I'd wait for "final versions" to come out. There is a chance they are better (they certainly have been provided with all the info they need to fix the issues). Hope die last, I guess...
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16836 Posts
July 05 2016 10:45 GMT
#227
these dates are tough. might be able to make it to one of them.
The Bomber boy
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19211 Posts
July 05 2016 12:09 GMT
#228
On July 05 2016 17:41 Freakling wrote:
Both new maps have their own respective threads here on TL, just look for them. The current versions are just gruesomely badly made... So I'd wait for "final versions" to come out. There is a chance they are better (they certainly have been provided with all the info they need to fix the issues). Hope die last, I guess...

Thanks. I wasn't sure if those threads have been updated/would have the latest versions. I understand waiting for the final version, but I want to be familiar at least with the basic feel of the map.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
July 06 2016 01:16 GMT
#229
On July 05 2016 15:15 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 14:41 prech wrote:
On July 05 2016 13:04 classicyellow83 wrote:
On July 05 2016 11:45 prech wrote:
^^Pretty sure no new maps for the Ro16 groups. I watch streams every day and I haven't see any new maps being practiced. At the same time, lots of Blue Storm being played, so that should continue

Maybe a Korean speaker can confirm, but it sounds like PianO mentions the two new ones, Taekbaek Mountains and Overwatch, won't be added until the bracket/finals

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/314232/

He's saying one of the map from the qualifiers will be omitted to add the 2 new maps.
He also said during his stream that he'll start practicing the new maps as soon as the the finalized versions come out.
If I'm not wrong i think the current versions are .99.
Hope this helps you.


Very helpful, thanks. To clarify, the two new maps are to be added later in the tournament, not for the initial group round? Or is PianO not explicit about the timing, just that at some point, they'll be added?

Remeber FS, CB, BS was used in the qualifiers? One of those maps will be omitted and 2 new maps will be added to the ro16. Piano thinks Blue Storm will get omitted since it's rare to see two two-player maps in one tournament.
The finalized versions of the maps are not out yet. That is why no one is practicing the new maps. They simply don't have the maps.

Great, thanks.

With two new maps in the Ro16, advancing could well be even tougher. Who knows what inherent imbalances will be present, and if a player is unlucky with the draw of opponents and maps, he could get eliminated really quickly in those Bo1 matches :/
Liquipedia
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51398 Posts
July 06 2016 09:43 GMT
#230
Tastosis just announced they will do ALL of the ASL from the Ro16 onward on the GSL stream just now.
Commentator
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
July 06 2016 11:39 GMT
#231
bw tournament but sc2 banner?
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
July 06 2016 16:21 GMT
#232
On July 06 2016 20:39 Dingodile wrote:
bw tournament but sc2 banner?

I think thats common, the old art isnt high quality anymore. I've seen so many WC3 tourneys use WoW art too.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 06 2016 17:24 GMT
#233
I think Tastosis casting this is great. Not that i don't appreciate all the work the 'tl catsers' did here, but at the end of the day tastosis are professional casters who are better at it (maybe not knowledge wise, not sure about that).
It's also good for the potential sc2 audience. Looking forward to it!
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-06 17:43:23
July 06 2016 17:43 GMT
#234
On July 06 2016 18:43 GTR wrote:
Tastosis just announced they will do ALL of the ASL from the Ro16 onward on the GSL stream just now.


all i wanted was a shoutout from them when they did the finals of NSL. i never got that :/
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1835 Posts
July 06 2016 22:19 GMT
#235
On July 06 2016 18:43 GTR wrote:
Tastosis just announced they will do ALL of the ASL from the Ro16 onward on the GSL stream just now.


Awesome to hear!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19211 Posts
July 07 2016 01:14 GMT
#236
On July 07 2016 02:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I think Tastosis casting this is great. Not that i don't appreciate all the work the 'tl catsers' did here, but at the end of the day tastosis are professional casters who are better at it (maybe not knowledge wise, not sure about that).
It's also good for the potential sc2 audience. Looking forward to it!

We are still paid casters for this. And I do like to consider myself a professional SC1 caster. I have been an official/paid/sponsor endorsed English caster for the past four major tournaments over the past two years.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 07 2016 01:17 GMT
#237
On July 07 2016 10:14 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 02:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I think Tastosis casting this is great. Not that i don't appreciate all the work the 'tl catsers' did here, but at the end of the day tastosis are professional casters who are better at it (maybe not knowledge wise, not sure about that).
It's also good for the potential sc2 audience. Looking forward to it!

We are still paid casters for this. And I do like to consider myself a professional SC1 caster. I have been an official/paid/sponsor endorsed English caster for the past four major tournaments over the past two years.

You know what i mean (hopefully). Tastosis literally have no other job than casting games, that's not the case for you. You have other stuff to do which means less time to actually work on casting, etc
Pls don't take this the wrong way, i am absolutely happy that you guys did what you did (and still do!), but i am also happy that tastosis are casting this on the gsl stream because i am sure that their involvement speaks to a broader audience for various reasons.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19211 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 13:56:42
July 07 2016 02:02 GMT
#238
edit:
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
July 07 2016 03:29 GMT
#239
late reaction from me - so why did bisu withdraw from this??? i was hoping to see flash vs bisu in the finals.

i thought he likes participating in kongdoo or terror's leagues. that's sad but will watch and cheer for flash.
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51398 Posts
July 07 2016 03:50 GMT
#240
because he's salty he lost the last two major leagues and doesn't want to lose to flash
Commentator
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-07 16:30:54
July 07 2016 11:06 GMT
#241
On July 07 2016 01:21 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 20:39 Dingodile wrote:
bw tournament but sc2 banner?

I think thats common, the old art isnt high quality anymore. I've seen so many WC3 tourneys use WoW art too.


That's really stupid. SC2 itself is not pulling anymore. Giving it BW title may attract people to it as seeing something on old on top again, like a click bait. SC2 can't fulfill that role.

. So here we are in a situation where terms are agreed upon between the sponsor and us. Suddenly, we are informed that Blizzard (yes, Blizzard) has demanded this Sunday's selection ceremony can only be streamed my tastless and artosis. We have been instructed by Blizzard, who has shown no interests in SC1 for half a decade, to not stream because they want their SC2 casters to perform the cast in a studio. Blizzard has barred us from casting the players we love this Sunday and xkcd and I from making additional money this Sunday. We are expected to sit back and watch the casting archon cast this event. So I'm just incredibly frustrated.


This is the like the ultimate form of assholness, dickness, bullshtting anyone can think of.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-07 21:30:24
July 07 2016 21:28 GMT
#242
On July 07 2016 11:02 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 10:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 07 2016 10:14 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 07 2016 02:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I think Tastosis casting this is great. Not that i don't appreciate all the work the 'tl catsers' did here, but at the end of the day tastosis are professional casters who are better at it (maybe not knowledge wise, not sure about that).
It's also good for the potential sc2 audience. Looking forward to it!

We are still paid casters for this. And I do like to consider myself a professional SC1 caster. I have been an official/paid/sponsor endorsed English caster for the past four major tournaments over the past two years.

You know what i mean (hopefully). Tastosis literally have no other job than casting games, that's not the case for you. You have other stuff to do which means less time to actually work on casting, etc
Pls don't take this the wrong way, i am absolutely happy that you guys did what you did (and still do!), but i am also happy that tastosis are casting this on the gsl stream because i am sure that their involvement speaks to a broader audience for various reasons.

Sure I get that and I am okay with what you are saying. Here is the perspective from our end in two parts.

The money:
This is a paid gig. And yes I am a professional simulations engineer so I do not need this money to put food on the table. But my co-caster xkcd is still in college. Every cast helps him a long way in extra cash. So for him, this potentially does help put food on the table. So here we are in a situation where terms are agreed upon between the sponsor and us. Suddenly, we are informed that Blizzard (yes, Blizzard) has demanded this Sunday's selection ceremony can only be streamed my tastless and artosis. We have been instructed by Blizzard, who has shown no interests in SC1 for half a decade, to not stream because they want their SC2 casters to perform the cast in a studio. Blizzard has barred us from casting the players we love this Sunday and xkcd and I from making additional money this Sunday. We are expected to sit back and watch the casting archon cast this event. So I'm just incredibly frustrated.

The passion:
It would at least feel better if we knew the casting Archon was doing this because they wanted to instead of doing it because Blizzard holds their wallet. They wouldn't be casting these tournaments except Blizzard demanded that they did. We actually had the support of the Afreeca sponsors as they argued for us to be the sole Vant SL casters because they appreciate our passion for casting. Blizzard told them they had have them on. This is 100% true too. And finally, during the VANT starleague finals the casting Archon didn't even acknowledge our existence while we spent part of stream cheering them on and sending people in their direction to check them out.


I don't quite understand why blizzard wouldn't allow you to cast the selection ceremony but the rest is ok? Makes little sense to me.
I disagree completely with your "passion" argument though. It's their job and while i actually think that they still like bw quite a lot (tasteless talks about it every other cast) at the end of the day it's a money thing.
Afreeca probably wanted you to be the sole casters because you are cheaper, at least that's what i would suspect. Tastosis probably didn't even know that there was a second stream going on.
I can understand your frustration, but at the same time i think some ideas here are a bit on the wishfull thinking side of things. Just keep doing it because you love it, other incentives are probably unrealistic though.

On July 07 2016 20:06 Wrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 01:21 lestye wrote:
On July 06 2016 20:39 Dingodile wrote:
bw tournament but sc2 banner?

I think thats common, the old art isnt high quality anymore. I've seen so many WC3 tourneys use WoW art too.


That's really stupid. SC2 itself is not pulling anymore. Giving it BW title may attract people to it as seeing something on old on top again, like a click bait. SC2 can't fulfill that role.



It is aesthetically more pleasing art, can we not be ridiculous?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 07 2016 21:44 GMT
#243
Flash hype
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
July 07 2016 22:21 GMT
#244
On July 07 2016 12:50 GTR wrote:
because he's salty he lost the last two major leagues and doesn't want to lose to flash

are you ygosuer??? =P
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 07 2016 22:42 GMT
#245
On July 06 2016 18:43 GTR wrote:
Tastosis just announced they will do ALL of the ASL from the Ro16 onward on the GSL stream just now.

Wasn't going to watch, but now I definitely will. That's awesome!
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
July 07 2016 22:49 GMT
#246
On July 07 2016 11:02 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 10:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 07 2016 10:14 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 07 2016 02:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I think Tastosis casting this is great. Not that i don't appreciate all the work the 'tl catsers' did here, but at the end of the day tastosis are professional casters who are better at it (maybe not knowledge wise, not sure about that).
It's also good for the potential sc2 audience. Looking forward to it!

We are still paid casters for this. And I do like to consider myself a professional SC1 caster. I have been an official/paid/sponsor endorsed English caster for the past four major tournaments over the past two years.

You know what i mean (hopefully). Tastosis literally have no other job than casting games, that's not the case for you. You have other stuff to do which means less time to actually work on casting, etc
Pls don't take this the wrong way, i am absolutely happy that you guys did what you did (and still do!), but i am also happy that tastosis are casting this on the gsl stream because i am sure that their involvement speaks to a broader audience for various reasons.

Sure I get that and I am okay with what you are saying. Here is the perspective from our end in two parts.

The money:
This is a paid gig. And yes I am a professional simulations engineer so I do not need this money to put food on the table. But my co-caster xkcd is still in college. Every cast helps him a long way in extra cash. So for him, this potentially does help put food on the table. So here we are in a situation where terms are agreed upon between the sponsor and us. Suddenly, we are informed that Blizzard (yes, Blizzard) has demanded this Sunday's selection ceremony can only be streamed my tastless and artosis. We have been instructed by Blizzard, who has shown no interests in SC1 for half a decade, to not stream because they want their SC2 casters to perform the cast in a studio. Blizzard has barred us from casting the players we love this Sunday and xkcd and I from making additional money this Sunday. We are expected to sit back and watch the casting archon cast this event. So I'm just incredibly frustrated.

The passion:
It would at least feel better if we knew the casting Archon was doing this because they wanted to instead of doing it because Blizzard holds their wallet. They wouldn't be casting these tournaments except Blizzard demanded that they did. We actually had the support of the Afreeca sponsors as they argued for us to be the sole Vant SL casters because they appreciate our passion for casting. Blizzard told them they had have them on. This is 100% true too. And finally, during the VANT starleague finals the casting Archon didn't even acknowledge our existence while we spent part of stream cheering them on and sending people in their direction to check them out.


I wouldn't blame tastosis for not giving a shoutout. Maybe Blizzard wanted them to not mention you too?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19211 Posts
July 08 2016 00:32 GMT
#247
On July 08 2016 07:49 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 11:02 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 07 2016 10:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 07 2016 10:14 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 07 2016 02:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I think Tastosis casting this is great. Not that i don't appreciate all the work the 'tl catsers' did here, but at the end of the day tastosis are professional casters who are better at it (maybe not knowledge wise, not sure about that).
It's also good for the potential sc2 audience. Looking forward to it!

We are still paid casters for this. And I do like to consider myself a professional SC1 caster. I have been an official/paid/sponsor endorsed English caster for the past four major tournaments over the past two years.

You know what i mean (hopefully). Tastosis literally have no other job than casting games, that's not the case for you. You have other stuff to do which means less time to actually work on casting, etc
Pls don't take this the wrong way, i am absolutely happy that you guys did what you did (and still do!), but i am also happy that tastosis are casting this on the gsl stream because i am sure that their involvement speaks to a broader audience for various reasons.

Sure I get that and I am okay with what you are saying. Here is the perspective from our end in two parts.

The money:
This is a paid gig. And yes I am a professional simulations engineer so I do not need this money to put food on the table. But my co-caster xkcd is still in college. Every cast helps him a long way in extra cash. So for him, this potentially does help put food on the table. So here we are in a situation where terms are agreed upon between the sponsor and us. Suddenly, we are informed that Blizzard (yes, Blizzard) has demanded this Sunday's selection ceremony can only be streamed my tastless and artosis. We have been instructed by Blizzard, who has shown no interests in SC1 for half a decade, to not stream because they want their SC2 casters to perform the cast in a studio. Blizzard has barred us from casting the players we love this Sunday and xkcd and I from making additional money this Sunday. We are expected to sit back and watch the casting archon cast this event. So I'm just incredibly frustrated.

The passion:
It would at least feel better if we knew the casting Archon was doing this because they wanted to instead of doing it because Blizzard holds their wallet. They wouldn't be casting these tournaments except Blizzard demanded that they did. We actually had the support of the Afreeca sponsors as they argued for us to be the sole Vant SL casters because they appreciate our passion for casting. Blizzard told them they had have them on. This is 100% true too. And finally, during the VANT starleague finals the casting Archon didn't even acknowledge our existence while we spent part of stream cheering them on and sending people in their direction to check them out.


I wouldn't blame tastosis for not giving a shoutout. Maybe Blizzard wanted them to not mention you too?

Lol, you just made my day. AmazingXKCD was really broken up about it. It's like casting with a sad puppy now.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 05:27:37
July 08 2016 05:23 GMT
#248
Lol at the day when BW needs a broader audience that is coming from SC2, SC2 doesnt exist in Korea (just being funded by Blizz to sustain the scene, and with small group of fans) and those SC2 foreigners fans who are declining fast too are not going to move to watch BW suddenly, btw the money that is going to be pay to Artosis and Tasteless should go to the prizepool because it is really small and let the community casters do the job.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 08 2016 05:43 GMT
#249
Blizzard doing some shitty moves? Doesn't surprise me at all to be honest.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10666 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 07:02:30
July 08 2016 07:02 GMT
#250
That Afreeca Logo though

EDIT : This is amazing
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 11:49:28
July 08 2016 11:33 GMT
#251
On July 08 2016 14:43 Lucumo wrote:
Blizzard doing some shitty moves? Doesn't surprise me at all to be honest.


yep, the fkers from blizzard killed BW intentionally to force people to like their new shit, but the shit died because... well because its shit. They killed such great pro scene and left nothing afterwards. Ruined progamers dreams and ambitions and betrayed all the fans. Progamers started to retire crushing fans hearts and people withdrew from sc2, just a few new people were interested. Bizzard morons probably thought ''OH we failed, koreans are not so stupid and can actually see how crappy is our new product is compared to the original. We couldve kept sc1 alive and get money from it in korea. Well then, lets mess with the remnants of bw and continue to plague fans with our shit."

having tastosis cast is super great, but restricting others to cast is bitch move. As if bd and xkcd will steal their viewers...
Luv ya BroodWar!
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 12:28:55
July 08 2016 12:27 GMT
#252
Who still expects anything different from blizzard? They're not the company they used to be. I haven't bought a blizzard product since WoW vanilla and Sc2 WoL and will continue to do so.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
SonnyC
Profile Joined May 2016
Netherlands17 Posts
July 08 2016 13:04 GMT
#253
On June 29 2016 05:36 prech wrote:
Looks like all the photo session pictures have been shared to the Kongdoo Facebook:

[image loading]

https://www.facebook.com/kongdoo/photos_stream

Can someone please tell me who is who? Thanks in advance
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
July 08 2016 13:48 GMT
#254
On July 07 2016 11:02 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 10:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 07 2016 10:14 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 07 2016 02:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I think Tastosis casting this is great. Not that i don't appreciate all the work the 'tl catsers' did here, but at the end of the day tastosis are professional casters who are better at it (maybe not knowledge wise, not sure about that).
It's also good for the potential sc2 audience. Looking forward to it!

We are still paid casters for this. And I do like to consider myself a professional SC1 caster. I have been an official/paid/sponsor endorsed English caster for the past four major tournaments over the past two years.

You know what i mean (hopefully). Tastosis literally have no other job than casting games, that's not the case for you. You have other stuff to do which means less time to actually work on casting, etc
Pls don't take this the wrong way, i am absolutely happy that you guys did what you did (and still do!), but i am also happy that tastosis are casting this on the gsl stream because i am sure that their involvement speaks to a broader audience for various reasons.

Sure I get that and I am okay with what you are saying. Here is the perspective from our end in two parts.

The money:
This is a paid gig. And yes I am a professional simulations engineer so I do not need this money to put food on the table. But my co-caster xkcd is still in college. Every cast helps him a long way in extra cash. So for him, this potentially does help put food on the table. So here we are in a situation where terms are agreed upon between the sponsor and us. Suddenly, we are informed that Blizzard (yes, Blizzard) has demanded this Sunday's selection ceremony can only be streamed my tastless and artosis. We have been instructed by Blizzard, who has shown no interests in SC1 for half a decade, to not stream because they want their SC2 casters to perform the cast in a studio. Blizzard has barred us from casting the players we love this Sunday and xkcd and I from making additional money this Sunday. We are expected to sit back and watch the casting archon cast this event. So I'm just incredibly frustrated.

The passion:
It would at least feel better if we knew the casting Archon was doing this because they wanted to instead of doing it because Blizzard holds their wallet. They wouldn't be casting these tournaments except Blizzard demanded that they did. We actually had the support of the Afreeca sponsors as they argued for us to be the sole Vant SL casters because they appreciate our passion for casting. Blizzard told them they had have them on. This is 100% true too. And finally, during the VANT starleague finals the casting Archon didn't even acknowledge our existence while we spent part of stream cheering them on and sending people in their direction to check them out.


.... and because of this i boycott the tastosis stream, hope you guys can still stream the games.....
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6505 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 14:07:49
July 08 2016 14:07 GMT
#255
but i dont understand something here .. Tastosis team is working for afreeca,so why in the first place afreeca is getting bisu/ama to stream anyway,and i dont understand at all blizzard informing them this,shouldnt be afreeca the one deciding who the hell is casting this?a bit of the same with the last season where in the last moment afreeca put tastosis to cast the final ;; and not like im complaining it was f*cking awesome to have them,they are good casters,they were good players.but it doesnt make much sense what afreeca is doing here -.- .
Basti1
Profile Joined June 2016
15 Posts
July 08 2016 14:24 GMT
#256
Im actually really surprised that Blizzard still interacts in Broodwar. I would really like to know how many of the former broodwar development team still work for Blizzard. I believe that the number is close to 0, so in theory the current company doesnt have any involvement in the product. But ok theory.. and reality... :D
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
July 08 2016 14:44 GMT
#257
On July 08 2016 22:48 Bakuryu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 11:02 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 07 2016 10:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 07 2016 10:14 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 07 2016 02:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I think Tastosis casting this is great. Not that i don't appreciate all the work the 'tl catsers' did here, but at the end of the day tastosis are professional casters who are better at it (maybe not knowledge wise, not sure about that).
It's also good for the potential sc2 audience. Looking forward to it!

We are still paid casters for this. And I do like to consider myself a professional SC1 caster. I have been an official/paid/sponsor endorsed English caster for the past four major tournaments over the past two years.

You know what i mean (hopefully). Tastosis literally have no other job than casting games, that's not the case for you. You have other stuff to do which means less time to actually work on casting, etc
Pls don't take this the wrong way, i am absolutely happy that you guys did what you did (and still do!), but i am also happy that tastosis are casting this on the gsl stream because i am sure that their involvement speaks to a broader audience for various reasons.

Sure I get that and I am okay with what you are saying. Here is the perspective from our end in two parts.

The money:
This is a paid gig. And yes I am a professional simulations engineer so I do not need this money to put food on the table. But my co-caster xkcd is still in college. Every cast helps him a long way in extra cash. So for him, this potentially does help put food on the table. So here we are in a situation where terms are agreed upon between the sponsor and us. Suddenly, we are informed that Blizzard (yes, Blizzard) has demanded this Sunday's selection ceremony can only be streamed my tastless and artosis. We have been instructed by Blizzard, who has shown no interests in SC1 for half a decade, to not stream because they want their SC2 casters to perform the cast in a studio. Blizzard has barred us from casting the players we love this Sunday and xkcd and I from making additional money this Sunday. We are expected to sit back and watch the casting archon cast this event. So I'm just incredibly frustrated.

The passion:
It would at least feel better if we knew the casting Archon was doing this because they wanted to instead of doing it because Blizzard holds their wallet. They wouldn't be casting these tournaments except Blizzard demanded that they did. We actually had the support of the Afreeca sponsors as they argued for us to be the sole Vant SL casters because they appreciate our passion for casting. Blizzard told them they had have them on. This is 100% true too. And finally, during the VANT starleague finals the casting Archon didn't even acknowledge our existence while we spent part of stream cheering them on and sending people in their direction to check them out.


.... and because of this i boycott the tastosis stream, hope you guys can still stream the games.....


they still get to stream the games.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 08 2016 17:44 GMT
#258
On July 08 2016 23:24 Basti1 wrote:
Im actually really surprised that Blizzard still interacts in Broodwar. I would really like to know how many of the former broodwar development team still work for Blizzard. I believe that the number is close to 0, so in theory the current company doesnt have any involvement in the product. But ok theory.. and reality... :D

They interact with tournaments which have a prizepool larger than 10k because at that point you need a license to host it.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
July 08 2016 18:09 GMT
#259
On July 08 2016 23:24 Basti1 wrote:
Im actually really surprised that Blizzard still interacts in Broodwar. I would really like to know how many of the former broodwar development team still work for Blizzard. I believe that the number is close to 0, so in theory the current company doesnt have any involvement in the product. But ok theory.. and reality... :D


gotta maximize your profit no matter what
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
July 08 2016 19:39 GMT
#260
On July 08 2016 22:04 SonnyC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2016 05:36 prech wrote:
Looks like all the photo session pictures have been shared to the Kongdoo Facebook:

[image loading]

https://www.facebook.com/kongdoo/photos_stream

Can someone please tell me who is who? Thanks in advance


Newbie here? Left to right:
1 - Last, Jaehoon, Effort, Best
2 - Mind, Sea, Free, Mong
3 - Flash, Larva, Sharp, Hero
4 - Ssak (who didn't fit)
sunbeams are never made like me...
SonnyC
Profile Joined May 2016
Netherlands17 Posts
July 08 2016 20:35 GMT
#261
On July 09 2016 04:39 outscar wrote:
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On July 08 2016 22:04 SonnyC wrote:
On June 29 2016 05:36 prech wrote:
Looks like all the photo session pictures have been shared to the Kongdoo Facebook:

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https://www.facebook.com/kongdoo/photos_stream

Can someone please tell me who is who? Thanks in advance


Newbie here? Left to right:
1 - Last, Jaehoon, Effort, Best
2 - Mind, Sea, Free, Mong
3 - Flash, Larva, Sharp, Hero
4 - Ssak (who didn't fit)


Thanks! Yeah kinda newbie haha. Played brood war in the past and I've recently started watching streams but never really followed the pro scene.. Until now but I still have much to learn
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19211 Posts
July 08 2016 20:48 GMT
#262
On July 09 2016 05:35 SonnyC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2016 04:39 outscar wrote:
On July 08 2016 22:04 SonnyC wrote:
On June 29 2016 05:36 prech wrote:
Looks like all the photo session pictures have been shared to the Kongdoo Facebook:

[image loading]

https://www.facebook.com/kongdoo/photos_stream

Can someone please tell me who is who? Thanks in advance


Newbie here? Left to right:
1 - Last, Jaehoon, Effort, Best
2 - Mind, Sea, Free, Mong
3 - Flash, Larva, Sharp, Hero
4 - Ssak (who didn't fit)


Thanks! Yeah kinda newbie haha. Played brood war in the past and I've recently started watching streams but never really followed the pro scene.. Until now but I still have much to learn

I'm sure you will have educational material to read on the front page of TL tomorrow. #hype
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 08 2016 21:32 GMT
#263
This will also be part of liquibets i guess? Probably the last tournament included this season?? :D
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
July 09 2016 01:09 GMT
#264
On July 09 2016 06:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:
This will also be part of liquibets i guess? Probably the last tournament included this season?? :D

You think we'd forget about LB?
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 09 2016 01:48 GMT
#265
On July 09 2016 10:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2016 06:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:
This will also be part of liquibets i guess? Probably the last tournament included this season?? :D

You think we'd forget about LB?

Well i wouldn't mind if the season was over now
Nah should be fun
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11285 Posts
July 09 2016 02:31 GMT
#266
On July 09 2016 10:48 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2016 10:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 09 2016 06:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:
This will also be part of liquibets i guess? Probably the last tournament included this season?? :D

You think we'd forget about LB?

Well i wouldn't mind if the season was over now
Nah should be fun

Of course you wouldn't. :D

On July 08 2016 23:24 Basti1 wrote:
Im actually really surprised that Blizzard still interacts in Broodwar. I would really like to know how many of the former broodwar development team still work for Blizzard. I believe that the number is close to 0, so in theory the current company doesnt have any involvement in the product. But ok theory.. and reality... :D

Even if the original team isn't on Blizz anymore, StarCraft is still Blizz IP. IIRC, Metzen and Didier are still in the company.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19211 Posts
July 09 2016 02:59 GMT
#267
On July 09 2016 06:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:
This will also be part of liquibets i guess? Probably the last tournament included this season?? :D

Last tournament before closing. Good luck!
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Basti1
Profile Joined June 2016
15 Posts
July 09 2016 06:47 GMT
#268
Even if the original team isn't on Blizz anymore, StarCraft is still Blizz IP. IIRC, Metzen and Didier are still in the company.


Thanks for that info.
afreecaTV.Char
Profile Joined December 2014
United States337 Posts
July 12 2016 01:45 GMT
#269
Sounds like Tastosis may be casting the Round of 16 now.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
July 12 2016 06:22 GMT
#270
On July 08 2016 23:24 Basti1 wrote:
Im actually really surprised that Blizzard still interacts in Broodwar. I would really like to know how many of the former broodwar development team still work for Blizzard. I believe that the number is close to 0, so in theory the current company doesnt have any involvement in the product. But ok theory.. and reality... :D

Where'd you get that idea?

http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/starcraft-brood-war/credits

Most of them are still there.
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JensWalker
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada20 Posts
July 12 2016 06:55 GMT
#271
nice!
herO
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
July 12 2016 15:37 GMT
#272
Fuck yes! Was getting real worried I wouldn't get to see live BW before I left Korea.
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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 02:19:53
August 08 2016 02:18 GMT
#273
Ro8 match-up map orders posted, updated at LP:

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Looks like the Kongdoo/Afreeca organizers placed the familiar CB and FS in the first and, most crucial, last positions, with the new maps in between.

Interestingly, they've used the name "New Taebaek Mountains" for the map, as opposed to just "Taebaek Mountains", perhaps to differentiate the updated v1.9 of the map with the significant changes
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
August 08 2016 02:33 GMT
#274
now to wait 6+ days for a TvT
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11285 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 05:00:13
August 08 2016 04:59 GMT
#275
The only matchup I'm not excited for is Sea vs Hero cause Hero vs T.

The scene's top 4 TvTers are all going to duke it out But man, FlaSh vs Last has to be played too soon >.< The winner of that probably takes the title.

Jaehoon vs Shuttle hype!!!
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
August 08 2016 05:06 GMT
#276
On August 08 2016 13:59 c3rberUs wrote:
The only matchup I'm not excited for is Sea vs Hero cause Hero vs offline choker


kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2031 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 07:29:19
August 08 2016 07:28 GMT
#277
Hero can play his ZvT really well offline, I wouldn't count him out!

@Prech: you've added a link to the match schedule instead of an updated map. Can you share?
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 07:40:32
August 08 2016 07:40 GMT
#278
On August 08 2016 16:28 kogeT wrote:
Hero can play his ZvT really well offline, I wouldn't count him out!

@Prech: you've added a link to the match schedule instead of an updated map. Can you share?

+ Show Spoiler [Map image] +
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+ Show Spoiler [Download] +
https://mega.nz/#!rEkUgZwS!jJ3qbSx90oCWY6TGg923dDLJmpBmSO9Snyk23gm0IVk
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
August 08 2016 10:25 GMT
#279
1.9 version link http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/733_Taebaek_Mountains from page http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Taebaek_Mountains not working.
sunbeams are never made like me...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49904 Posts
August 08 2016 10:33 GMT
#280
my post above links to the 1.9 download
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11285 Posts
August 08 2016 12:30 GMT
#281
I think it's going to be like an unstoppable force (sucks zvt and horrible meta) versus an immovable object (sucks offline and series)
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