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WARNING:
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Do not spoil games in this thread
Do not comment on games in this thread
Do not argue - about anything - in this thread

This thread is holy ground. Any post that is not a VOD link post or a Thank You will be 1984'd .

Seriously get ready to get banned.

- Kennigit, circa April 2009 - THIS STILL APPLIES
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51058 Posts
November 06 2010 02:17 GMT
#7141
Thank you marcoso.......Full length+Korean+HQ VODS=FUCK YEAH!!!!

although moritaka needs a star too...only if marcoso gets a double star.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51058 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 09:53:07
November 06 2010 08:10 GMT
#7142
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MSL Survival Tournament Wildcard

04 November 2010

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+ Show Spoiler [Round 1] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(P)Kal < Circuit Breaker > (Z)hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(Z)Hyuk < Triathlon > (P)Stats

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(T)Midas < Aztec > (Z)RorO

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
(P)Violet < Circuit Breaker > (P)Bisu


+ Show Spoiler [Round 2] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(P)Kal< Aztec> (Z)Hyuk

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(Z)RorO < Triathlon > (P)Bisu


+ Show Spoiler [Final] +
(P)Kal vs (P)Bisu

+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Circuit Breaker] +

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Triathlon] +

+ Show Spoiler [Set 3 Aztec] +



LR thread by TheNessman

Source:Teamliquid's official VOD database


Format was shamelessly stolen from moktira :p .
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
November 06 2010 09:47 GMT
#7143
moktira... not moritaka

User was warned for this post
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 11:04:50
November 06 2010 11:04 GMT
#7144
fantasy vs jangbi got WMG'd :/

other than that, thanks both moktira and marcoso! enjoying all :D
POGGERS
marcoso *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil818 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 13:12:21
November 06 2010 11:19 GMT
#7145
phew... nevake is up to date. Thanks a lot, aers!

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2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 1 Week 3

Monday 1st
▶ Hite Entus vs Air Force ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Set 1: Icarus
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)Hydra vs (T)firebathero
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Set 2: Central Plains
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(P)Snow vs (Z)YellOw
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Set 3: Benzene
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)Horang2 vs (Z)ggaemo
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Set 4: Circuit Breaker
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)sKyHigh vs (P)Much[gm]
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Set 5: Empire of the Sun
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)Leta vs (T)RuBy
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Set 6: Fortress
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)HoGiL vs (P)M18M
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Set 7: Grand Line SE
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
unnecessary
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unnecessary

LR thread by mustaju

Monday 1st
▶ KT Rolster vs Samsung KHAN
+ Show Spoiler +
Set 1: Fortress
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(T)fOrGG vs (T)Reality
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Set 2: Benzene
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)Flash vs (P)Stork
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Set 3: Grand Line SE
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)Action vs (Z)Chavi
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Set 4: Empire of the Sun
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)HoeJJa vs (T)TurN
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Set 5: Aztec
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(P)Stats vs (P)Brave
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Set 6: Icarus
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(P)Violet vs (Z)great
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Set 7: Circuit Breaker
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
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LR thread

Tuesday 2nd
▶ Hwaseung OZ vs WeMade FOX
+ Show Spoiler +
Set 1: Aztec
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)PerfectMan vs (Z)Shine
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Set 2: Circuit Breaker
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)Sky[kaL] vs (T)BaBy
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Set 3: Icarus
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)Jaedong vs (Z)RorO
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Set 4: Fortress
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)HiyA vs (T)Midas
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Set 5: Central Plains
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)BackHo vs (P)Sea.Pure
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Set 6: Empire of the Sun
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)Killer vs (T)InteR.Mind
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Set 7: Benzene
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
unnecessary
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unnecessary

LR thread by Microlisk

Tuesday 2nd
▶ MBCGame HERO vs STX SouL
+ Show Spoiler +
Set 1: Benzene
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)HyuN vs (T)Bogus
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Set 2: Empire of the Sun
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)Light vs (P)Kal
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Set 3: Central Plains
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)Jaehoon vs (P)Shuttle
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Set 4: Grand Line SE
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)Sea vs (T)Last[fOu]
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Set 5: Icarus
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(Z)Saint vs (T)FrOzen
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Set 6: Circuit Breaker
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(P)Tyson vs (T)Classic
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Set 7: Aztec
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
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LR thread by mustaju

Wednesday 3rd
▶ Hite Entus vs Woongjin Stars
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Set 1: Circuit Breaker
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)Hydra vs (P)free[gm]
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Set 2: Icarus
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)Leta vs (Z)ZerO
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Set 3: Aztec
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)Snow vs (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey
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Set 4: Benzene
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)Movie vs (Z)Crazy-Hydra
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Set 5: Grand Line SE
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)BByong vs (T)Really
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Set 6: Central Plains
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)Horang2 vs (P)Flying
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Set 7: Fortress
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)Hydra vs (P)free[gm]
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LR thread by mustaju

Wednesday 3rd
▶ SK Telecom T1 vs Samsung KHAN
+ Show Spoiler +
Set 1: Benzene
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)Fantasy vs (P)JangBi
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Set 2: Empire of the Sun
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)Kwanro vs (T)TurN
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Set 3: Central Plains
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)BeSt[WHITE] vs (P)Stork
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Set 4: Grand Line SE
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)n.Die_soO vs (Z)Juni
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Set 5: Icarus
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)Bisu vs (Z)great
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Set 6: Circuit Breaker
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
unnecessary
[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +
unnecessary

Set 7: Aztec
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
unnecessary
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unnecessary

LR thread by disciple

Saturday 6th
▶▶▶▶▶ Samsung KHAN vs Hwaseung OZ
+ Show Spoiler +
Set 1: Empire of the Sun
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)great vs (P)PerfectMan
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Set 2: Grand Line SE
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)Brave vs (Z)Killer
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Set 3: Circuit Breaker
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)Stork vs (P)BackHo
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Set 4: Aztec
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)JangBi vs (Z)Jaedong
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Set 5: Fortress
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)TurN vs (T)HiyA
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Set 6: Benzene
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(Z)Chavi vs (Z)Alone
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Set 7: Central Plains
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On November 06 2010 12:59 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 15:45 alffla wrote:
hoyl shit
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LR thread by flamewheel

Saturday 6th
▶▶▶▶▶ STX SouL vs Hite Entus
+ Show Spoiler +
Set 1: Central Plains
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)Shuttle vs (P)Horang2
[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +

Set 2: Aztec
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)Classic vs (Z)HoGiL
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Set 3: Fortress
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)Kal vs (P)Movie
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Set 4: Icarus
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(T)Bogus vs (P)Snow
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Set 5: Benzene
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)Calm vs (Z)Hydra
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Set 6: Grand Line SE
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(Z)Modesty vs (T)Leta
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Set 7: Empire of the Sun
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
unnecessary
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unnecessary

LR thread by mustaju


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PD POP MSL Survivor Tournament Wildcard Match

+ Show Spoiler [Round of 8] +
(P)Kal < Circuit Breaker > (Z)hero
[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IPMKBjSakw

(Z)Hyuk < Triathlon > (P)Stats
[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7SMDm3QUNg

(T)Midas < Aztec > (Z)RorO
[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNyNTJRZHGQ

(P)Violet < Circuit Breaker > (P)Bisu
[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZLZeqJ5lHc

+ Show Spoiler [Round of 4] +
(P)Kal < Aztec> (Z)Hyuk
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDitW81Rvjs

(Z)RorO < Triathlon > (P)Bisu
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvdl0e8yzIM

+ Show Spoiler [Final] +
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
(P)Kal vs (P)Bisu

Set 1: Circuit Breaker
[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFUewjdEl1c

Set 2: Triathlon
[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qagWd00eADs

Set 3: Aztec
[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO8be3_glq0

      LR thread by TheNessman

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banner by prototype.

2010 Bacchus OnGameNet StarLeague Ro36: Groups A, B, & C

+ Show Spoiler [Day 1] +
Map Set
Set 1: Pathfinder
Set 2: Gladiator
Set 3: Aztec

Group A: (P)Violet[Name] vs (Z)Ever)Z(Killer
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[image loading]+ Show Spoiler [SET 2] +

[image loading]+ Show Spoiler [SET 3] +

Group B: (Z)by.hero vs (T)InteR.Mind
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[image loading]+ Show Spoiler [SET 2] +

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unnecessary

Group C: (T)fOrGG vs (P)By.Tyson
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LR thread by konadora

+ Show Spoiler [Day 2] +
Map Set
Set 1: Pathfinder
Set 2: Gladiator
Set 3: Aztec

Group A : Sea[Shield] vs Group A Day 1 Winner
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Group B: NsP_Action vs Group B Day 1 Winner
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Group C: Calm vs Group C Day 1 Winner
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LR thread by mustaju

      VODs courtesy of aers @ official teamliquid starcraft database
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1548 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 22:09:14
November 06 2010 13:31 GMT
#7146
Woah! Thanks marcoso, respect to aers for fixing the syncing issues on some of those VODs, I hope people appreciate the effort he puts in.

Hid my lower quality version, was going delete it but didn't have the heart....
+ Show Spoiler +
Thanks for the kind words yesterday guys!

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From 06 November 2010

Samsung KHAN vs Hwaseung OZ

+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(Z)great < Empire of the Sun > (P)PerfectMan
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(P)Brave < Grand Line SE > (Z)Killer
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(P)Stork < Circuit Breaker > (P)BackHo
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
(P)JangBi < Aztec > (Z)Jaedong
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
(T)TurN < Fortress > (T)HiyA
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
(Z)Chavi < Benzene > (Z)Princess
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Ace] +
(P)Stork < Central Plains > (Z)Jaedong
+ Show Spoiler +


LR thread by flamewheel

Source: Originally PLU (Chinese commentary), uploaded to YouTube by moktira
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
November 06 2010 23:53 GMT
#7147
thanks to you both, the survivor tournament finals were amazing.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
November 06 2010 23:58 GMT
#7148
marcoso,you sexy beast, still doing your magic <3
mad respect to moktira as well
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
November 07 2010 00:08 GMT
#7149
This thread is seriously the holy ground.

I can't stop expressing my thanks to all of you!
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
November 07 2010 03:52 GMT
#7150
I just want to say thanks to every contributors in this thread.
This is seriously the most useful thread on TL.

Thanks!!!!
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
TL+ Member
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1548 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 21:52:01
November 07 2010 18:12 GMT
#7151
Thanks to aers
[image loading]

From 07 November 2010

SK Telecom T1 vs WeMade FOX

+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(T)Ssak <Circuit Breaker> (Z)RorO
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(T)Fantasy <Icarus> (P)Pure
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(P)Bisu <Aztec> (Z)Shine
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
(Z)s2 <Benzene> (T)BaBy
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
(Z)n.Die_soO <Grand Line SE> (T)Mind
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
(P)BeSt <Central Plains> (P)LuCifer
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Ace] +
Not Needed


LR thread by Lightwip

Source: nevake

+ Show Spoiler [Low Quality version] +
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From 07 November 2010

SK Telecom T1 vs WeMade FOX

+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(T)Ssak <Circuit Breaker> (Z)RorO
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0JJu3sMTGs


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(T)Fantasy <Icarus> (P)Pure
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpULYmqE8zY


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(P)Bisu <Aztec> (Z)Shine
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wcifGboJrw


+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
(Z)s2 <Benzene> (T)BaBy
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhpaUwToTUQ


+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
(Z)n.Die_soO <Grand Line SE> (T)Mind
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bD3D4DY6OA


+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
(P)BeSt <Central Plains> (P)LuCifer
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Ace] +
Not Needed


LR thread by Lightwip

Source: Originally PLU (Chinese commentary), uploaded to YouTube by moktira

If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
November 07 2010 20:00 GMT
#7152
Wow thats fast.. Thank man stream was too choppy for me to watch anything during game 2, luckily VoDs are up
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
November 07 2010 22:13 GMT
#7153
thanks for the post!!
~ The Ultimate Weapon
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1548 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 14:25:12
November 08 2010 15:32 GMT
#7154
Thanks to aers
[image loading]

From 08 November 2010

KT Rolster vs STX SouL

+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(T)Flash < Aztec > (Z)Modesty
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(Z)Action < Circuit Breaker > (Z)Calm
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(P)Violet < Icarus > (T)Bogus
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
(T)fOrGG < Fortress > (T)FrOzen
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
(P)Anyppi < Central Plains > (P)Shuttle
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Not Needed

+ Show Spoiler [Ace] +
Not Needed

Source: nevake
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 08 2010 15:39 GMT
#7155
^ No need to apologise, thanks very much for uploading to youtube!
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
DracoVolantus
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland236 Posts
November 08 2010 17:19 GMT
#7156
Thank You!
EX CATHEDRA!
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1548 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 17:41:00
November 08 2010 17:24 GMT
#7157
Thanks to aers
[image loading]

From 07 November 2010

MBCGame HERO vs. Woongjin Stars

+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(T)Light < Grand Line SE > (P)free
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(Z)HyuN < Fortress > (T)Really
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(Z)Saint < Empire of the Sun > (Z)ZerO
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
(P)Tyson < Central Plains > (P)Flying
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
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CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
November 08 2010 21:11 GMT
#7158
hah, thanks alot Moktira!! I bought a couple cans of "Liquid from Heaven" as Stylish calls Red Bulls, can't wait to watch these.

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Australia7535 Posts
November 08 2010 23:48 GMT
#7159
Game 1 of MBC vs Woongjin was WMG'd =[

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Ireland1548 Posts
November 09 2010 00:26 GMT
#7160
On November 09 2010 08:48 ShadeR wrote:
Game 1 of MBC vs Woongjin was WMG'd =[

Okay thanks, aers often re-uploads them if that happens. I have that with the original audio myself too but lower video quality, I'll upload it in the morning and link it.
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