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[Commentary] 2007 GOMTV MSL finals (Day & NonY)

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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 15:23:33
March 03 2007 13:14 GMT
#1
And heeeeeeeeeres NONY!

mod edit: YouTube vods and VioleTAK's (yes he's a real person!) comments:

On March 09 2007 06:00 VioleTAK wrote:
Hello.

I enjoyed NonY and Day[9]'s commentary on the MSL finals so much, immediately I knew this had to be made into a much more solid viewable media. What I mean by that is that many Starcraft fans sometimes do these kinds of commentary of their own, or subtitles for favorite VODs, but these things tend to disappear in a short time, and after a couple of months already forum posts start to pop up every once in a while asking 'where can I get that old commentary/subtitle...' and then you have to find and download the correct VOD to sync it with, anyway you know what I mean.
I thought very highly of their analysis of the game, Day[9] and rS.NonY said a lot of what I felt when watching the finals, and so much more. Their understanding of the game is far greater than my own, explanations of the deeper concepts and ideas behind what the players had in mind really enlightened me about what went on in the game beyond what seemed obvious.

So, myself lacking the required video editing skills, I got my friend who's an excellent anime encoder (and wishes to remain incognito) to help me out with this project, and he did an amazing job! to make a very long story short (because it was more complicated than what I'll explain here) basically we (ok.. he, but I was encouraging!) took the original wmvs of the finals, stripped them of the audio, then synced them with the commentary audio into one file (with the original sound lower on volume and the commentary way higher, we could also go for pure commentary and no background sound but after comparing we found that the background sounds are really crucial to keep the game atmosphere), the audio files are longer than the actual videos because Day and NonY continued talking about the games after they were over, which means you had to add more video or YouTube and other video hosting sites would reject the 'audio only' parts, so we added a TeamLiquid logo (with fade-in) until the audio was finished, which means we had to convert the wmvs into avi format, then re-introduce the synced sound files inside, and all sorts of tweaks in the middle to keep the video/audio from being damaged in quality (big success), and we're very happy with the results :-)

And here it is, forever immortalized :-)

Pre-Game Commentary: (awards ceremony)
+ Show Spoiler +


MSL Finals Game-1:
+ Show Spoiler +


MSL Finals Game-2:
+ Show Spoiler +


MSL Finals Game-3:
+ Show Spoiler +


Programs used: (XviD for codec. Also had to use 3 versions of vdub, just because mainline vdub sucks)

VirtualDubMPEG2 for ASF/WMV extraction & frameserving.
VirtualDub (normal) for encoding.
VirtualDubMod for muxing. (AviMuxGUI is excellent but the results don't always turn out compatible with all players, or YouTube)
Audacity for audio editing.
WM Encoder for making WMAs.
WM Stream Editor for remuxing WMAs into WMVs.
LAME for encoding MP3s.
And of course Avisynth for video editing.

For anyone interested, the general process went as following:

VdubMPEG2: Load WMV, demux audio, start frameserver.
Avisynth: Add logo to frameserved video.
VirtualDub: Encode with XviD to AVI.
Audacity: Mix audio + commentary.
Lame: Encode audio to mp3.
VirtualDubMod: Mux mp3 with video.

NonY and Day[9]'s original thread:
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50473

I'm a YouTube uploader, but if any of you wants to upload the games on other video hosting sites, the more the better, I'll upload the files onto RapidShare tommorow and post the link.


LR Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50427
ModeratorGodfather
rS.NonY
Profile Joined February 2007
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-03 13:20:44
March 03 2007 13:18 GMT
#2
Thank you Mani

Day[9] and I recorded some English commentary to listen to while you watch Bisu vs Savior. The content is very heavy on strategy and analysis of the gameplay so even if you've already watched the games, we feel you'll still benefit from watching the games again with the addition of our commentary.

Here's the link to a .rar with the 4 audio files (pregame commentary + the three games)
http://www.duke.edu/~tjw4/Savior vs Bisu English Commentary.rar

You'll hear me countdown "5 4 3 2 1 start" so that you can sync your video with the audio.

Soooo please listen and enjoy and feel free to discuss or respond to what we say.
Lycaeus
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1420 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-03 13:20:00
March 03 2007 13:18 GMT
#3
-_- neat
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-03 13:22:57
March 03 2007 13:18 GMT
#4
Mani why did you have to do that T_T... I was really looking forward to this.

EDIT: Oh haha, I posted in the same minute Nony did! xD
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-03 13:21:20
March 03 2007 13:20 GMT
#5
Nice, I just listened to the Bisu vs rA commentary.

I get a broken .rar file though =/
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rS.NonY
Profile Joined February 2007
United States286 Posts
March 03 2007 13:24 GMT
#6
the .rar should be fixed now
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
March 03 2007 13:29 GMT
#7
Indeed it is. Thanks guys, I'll listen to it tomorrow.
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Zeto
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2290 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-03 14:09:13
March 03 2007 13:33 GMT
#8
Would it be okay with you if I linked this on another board? I posted a live report thread yesterday there, I'm sure some people would be interested in listening to you both

Thanks btw! I've been waiting for you to post it.

edit: Nevermind I'm just gonna upload this to rapidshare. Don't want them leeching off your host. Thanks again guys! I will make sure to give you both credit.
hay hay mayé, todos los negros tomamos maté!
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
March 03 2007 14:10 GMT
#9
Nice stuff. I'm looking forward to hearing what you gentalmen have to say about the games.
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
March 03 2007 14:15 GMT
#10
you pimps! ive been thinking of trying to organize one of these over skype/vent for a while now but im really looking forward to what you guys have to say :D
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
March 03 2007 14:26 GMT
#11
holy cow, day[9]s voice is like... so enthusiastic and one of those voices you hear in kids games telling them what to do ^_^
Professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world’s first analrapist.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3344 Posts
March 03 2007 14:37 GMT
#12
On March 03 2007 22:20 SonuvBob wrote:
Nice, I just listened to the Bisu vs rA commentary.

I tried searching for this 'Bisu vs rA' commentary but I couldn't find it. Can someone plz give me the link to the thread. Thanks
김택용 Fighting!
WiSaGaN
Profile Joined July 2006
203 Posts
March 03 2007 14:39 GMT
#13
nice work.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
March 03 2007 14:48 GMT
#14
JFKLDAJFKDLAJFKLADJFKDALJFKALD!
:D
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-03 15:11:06
March 03 2007 14:56 GMT
#15
dfgm,sdbflakshipasr

holy shit guys that was awesome. its reassuring to know im thinking on very similar lines to "qualifed" commentators. i was thinking of trying to organize these over skype/vent etc but its nice to see that you guys are doing this for us

<3 <3 <3

edit: just finished game 3 commentary...you guys need to start working with tasteless. day probably has a few connections
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
March 03 2007 15:05 GMT
#16
NONY!! YAY
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
March 03 2007 15:06 GMT
#17
This is incredible. When I'm hearing that, I feel like I'm not even playing the same game as you guys.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
March 03 2007 15:20 GMT
#18
yaaaay <3 nony : ]
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
March 03 2007 15:41 GMT
#19
haha like protoss put pressure on the zerg
Day overwhelmed nony with his streams of words

XDDDD!
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
March 03 2007 16:29 GMT
#20
Is it possible to have a subtitle ? English or french whatever, would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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