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CoralReefer
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada2069 Posts
October 10 2006 07:23 GMT
#21
On October 10 2006 15:53 Chill wrote:
Do you guys actually have chats about TL threads?


if we are bored and there is a mildly amusing thread, then yes.
And this hot potato has vanished into thin air.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 10 2006 07:28 GMT
#22
On October 10 2006 16:22 ml1710 wrote:
Incontrol:
sure there were a few simultaneous attacks, and he was under pressure, but you are exaggerating the extent of it.

note that i never said he was a bad player. he is an excellent player capable of being compared to any top foreign gamer. but there are a lot of players who can play better. for the same reason people think silent_control is shitty compared to midas. there is no reason to get so pissed just because we have admire different players.

but wait, you seem to get pissed off at everything don\'t you?



Irda:
no, he didn\'t need mass lings because he raped jang either way (and i don\'t like that he posted 4 games of pure rape). but would making a lot more lings have helped him rape jang faster? i think so.

lings are not useless (especially upgraded lings). they are hard to control but there were many, times where he could have used extra lings with his lurkers.

the rh game that was posted in the rep section here was well worth posting and was a very nice comeback on his part.

lings would have been relatively ineffective and just another thing to control (if you dont control them at all they are absolutely worthless). its much more effective to stick to mostly hydra lurk def. contrary to what many clueless people think it is not necessarily a bad thing to have lots of money. there is nothing wrong with building up spare money when it isnt useful anywhere else. why waste money on ineffective units when you could save it in case you need it later?
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 10 2006 07:29 GMT
#23
and, actually
On October 09 2006 21:10 ml1710 wrote:
he seems to have a lot of trouble controlling his minerals in mid/late game

it is better economic control to use your resources wisely than to blindly spend them in an effort to look good by keeping your money under 1k.
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
October 10 2006 07:36 GMT
#24
Its better to control and use your gas units as perfect as possible then to spend time doing more units. Would not even aid you since a little higher control makes up for those zerglings anyway.

CoralReefer
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada2069 Posts
October 10 2006 09:08 GMT
#25
On October 10 2006 16:28 IdrA wrote:
[removed quote within quote]
the rh game that was posted in the rep section here was well worth posting and was a very nice comeback on his part.

lings would have been relatively ineffective and just another thing to control (if you dont control them at all they are absolutely worthless). its much more effective to stick to mostly hydra lurk def. contrary to what many clueless people think it is not necessarily a bad thing to have lots of money. there is nothing wrong with building up spare money when it isnt useful anywhere else. why waste money on ineffective units when you could save it in case you need it later?


he couldn't control an additional 2 groups of lings with his lurkers? because there were many times he could have used more lings. there were also many times where jang's expos could have been overtaken with pure lings.

i only commented on this because of all the cozy games i've seen, including zvp he has a build up of minerals in late game.

i have no doubt that as cozy gets better he will also have better macro AND he will develop his ability to control all those lings.

you say that is perfectly ok. but at the higher levels it is not ok. i do not see many high level zergs with ~3k minerals in their pockets mid/late game, and i'm guessing there might be a reason for this.
And this hot potato has vanished into thin air.
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2686 Posts
October 10 2006 09:16 GMT
#26
he always has alot of minerals because his play is built upon having a massive economy
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
October 10 2006 10:12 GMT
#27
I was amazed at how well he was able to do multiple battles at once and still be able to own hard. I noticed the built up minerals too, but like Control says, it was because he was using more gas expensive units rather than minerals. In my opinion, I think he still could have done with 1 or 2 more hatches in his main though, it's not bad to produce12 more lings everytime he goes around his hatches. Of course in the end it would only make 300 minerals of a difference, so he'd still have lots of money.

What I noticed the most, however, is how Jang used the same strat all 4 games. I mean yes he pulls it off really well, but after it fails to kill him about 3 times I think he should have tried a different strategy. Game 3 ended quickly because cOzy knew what he was going to do.

But really nice games.
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
October 10 2006 10:27 GMT
#28
Well Live2Win I assume he practiced that specific strat
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
October 10 2006 11:43 GMT
#29
On October 10 2006 19:27 Patriot.dlk wrote:
Well Live2Win I assume he practiced that specific strat


or he was practicing that specific strat ;p
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-10 12:07:28
October 10 2006 12:07 GMT
#30
I guess that makes sence, they may have been practicing with that one specifically.
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Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-10 12:25:29
October 10 2006 12:21 GMT
#31
Lesson learnt, if you tell someone to shut the fuck up, odds are that the opposite will prevail.

So if you want someone to shup the fuck up, try asking him to reply again and write an indepth developped analysis of his initial post. I say the subject will be too lazy to write again, feel bad to let a fan down by not writting, and pretend he went off in vacation for several days. Only came back once the devoted fan has forgotten about his unfair request. Thus, shutting the fuck up.

I havent seen the games, and I dont feel like it. Zergs and Protoss are little monsters and they bore me. Its like Alien vs Predator, whoever wins, we lose!! O.O
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Profile Joined January 2006
Australia848 Posts
October 10 2006 12:43 GMT
#32
On October 10 2006 21:21 Leath wrote:
Lesson learnt, if you tell someone to shut the fuck up, odds are that the opposite will prevail.

So if you want someone to shup the fuck up, try asking him to reply again and write an indepth developped analysis of his initial post. I say the subject will be too lazy to write again, feel bad to let a fan down by not writting, and pretend he went off in vacation for several days. Only came back once the devoted fan has forgotten about his unfair request. Thus, shutting the fuck up.

I havent seen the games, and I dont feel like it. Zergs and Protoss are little monsters and they bore me. Its like Alien vs Predator, whoever wins, we lose!! O.O


shut the fuck up
Dametri
Profile Joined September 2005
United States726 Posts
October 10 2006 13:18 GMT
#33
On October 09 2006 21:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
[removed quote within quote]

Shut the fuck up.
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