• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:15
CEST 00:15
KST 07:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)76ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo32Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Mizenhauer's Douyu Cup Preview
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered? Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13172 users

by.cozy vs sea.jang 4 games - Page 2

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
CoralReefer
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada2069 Posts
October 10 2006 07:23 GMT
#21
On October 10 2006 15:53 Chill wrote:
Do you guys actually have chats about TL threads?


if we are bored and there is a mildly amusing thread, then yes.
And this hot potato has vanished into thin air.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 10 2006 07:28 GMT
#22
On October 10 2006 16:22 ml1710 wrote:
Incontrol:
sure there were a few simultaneous attacks, and he was under pressure, but you are exaggerating the extent of it.

note that i never said he was a bad player. he is an excellent player capable of being compared to any top foreign gamer. but there are a lot of players who can play better. for the same reason people think silent_control is shitty compared to midas. there is no reason to get so pissed just because we have admire different players.

but wait, you seem to get pissed off at everything don\'t you?



Irda:
no, he didn\'t need mass lings because he raped jang either way (and i don\'t like that he posted 4 games of pure rape). but would making a lot more lings have helped him rape jang faster? i think so.

lings are not useless (especially upgraded lings). they are hard to control but there were many, times where he could have used extra lings with his lurkers.

the rh game that was posted in the rep section here was well worth posting and was a very nice comeback on his part.

lings would have been relatively ineffective and just another thing to control (if you dont control them at all they are absolutely worthless). its much more effective to stick to mostly hydra lurk def. contrary to what many clueless people think it is not necessarily a bad thing to have lots of money. there is nothing wrong with building up spare money when it isnt useful anywhere else. why waste money on ineffective units when you could save it in case you need it later?
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 10 2006 07:29 GMT
#23
and, actually
On October 09 2006 21:10 ml1710 wrote:
he seems to have a lot of trouble controlling his minerals in mid/late game

it is better economic control to use your resources wisely than to blindly spend them in an effort to look good by keeping your money under 1k.
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
October 10 2006 07:36 GMT
#24
Its better to control and use your gas units as perfect as possible then to spend time doing more units. Would not even aid you since a little higher control makes up for those zerglings anyway.

CoralReefer
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada2069 Posts
October 10 2006 09:08 GMT
#25
On October 10 2006 16:28 IdrA wrote:
[removed quote within quote]
the rh game that was posted in the rep section here was well worth posting and was a very nice comeback on his part.

lings would have been relatively ineffective and just another thing to control (if you dont control them at all they are absolutely worthless). its much more effective to stick to mostly hydra lurk def. contrary to what many clueless people think it is not necessarily a bad thing to have lots of money. there is nothing wrong with building up spare money when it isnt useful anywhere else. why waste money on ineffective units when you could save it in case you need it later?


he couldn't control an additional 2 groups of lings with his lurkers? because there were many times he could have used more lings. there were also many times where jang's expos could have been overtaken with pure lings.

i only commented on this because of all the cozy games i've seen, including zvp he has a build up of minerals in late game.

i have no doubt that as cozy gets better he will also have better macro AND he will develop his ability to control all those lings.

you say that is perfectly ok. but at the higher levels it is not ok. i do not see many high level zergs with ~3k minerals in their pockets mid/late game, and i'm guessing there might be a reason for this.
And this hot potato has vanished into thin air.
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
October 10 2006 09:16 GMT
#26
he always has alot of minerals because his play is built upon having a massive economy
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
October 10 2006 10:12 GMT
#27
I was amazed at how well he was able to do multiple battles at once and still be able to own hard. I noticed the built up minerals too, but like Control says, it was because he was using more gas expensive units rather than minerals. In my opinion, I think he still could have done with 1 or 2 more hatches in his main though, it's not bad to produce12 more lings everytime he goes around his hatches. Of course in the end it would only make 300 minerals of a difference, so he'd still have lots of money.

What I noticed the most, however, is how Jang used the same strat all 4 games. I mean yes he pulls it off really well, but after it fails to kill him about 3 times I think he should have tried a different strategy. Game 3 ended quickly because cOzy knew what he was going to do.

But really nice games.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
October 10 2006 10:27 GMT
#28
Well Live2Win I assume he practiced that specific strat
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
October 10 2006 11:43 GMT
#29
On October 10 2006 19:27 Patriot.dlk wrote:
Well Live2Win I assume he practiced that specific strat


or he was practicing that specific strat ;p
The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-10 12:07:28
October 10 2006 12:07 GMT
#30
I guess that makes sence, they may have been practicing with that one specifically.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-10 12:25:29
October 10 2006 12:21 GMT
#31
Lesson learnt, if you tell someone to shut the fuck up, odds are that the opposite will prevail.

So if you want someone to shup the fuck up, try asking him to reply again and write an indepth developped analysis of his initial post. I say the subject will be too lazy to write again, feel bad to let a fan down by not writting, and pretend he went off in vacation for several days. Only came back once the devoted fan has forgotten about his unfair request. Thus, shutting the fuck up.

I havent seen the games, and I dont feel like it. Zergs and Protoss are little monsters and they bore me. Its like Alien vs Predator, whoever wins, we lose!! O.O
http://www.kongregate.com/?referrer=Sagess
siro)
Profile Joined January 2006
Australia848 Posts
October 10 2006 12:43 GMT
#32
On October 10 2006 21:21 Leath wrote:
Lesson learnt, if you tell someone to shut the fuck up, odds are that the opposite will prevail.

So if you want someone to shup the fuck up, try asking him to reply again and write an indepth developped analysis of his initial post. I say the subject will be too lazy to write again, feel bad to let a fan down by not writting, and pretend he went off in vacation for several days. Only came back once the devoted fan has forgotten about his unfair request. Thus, shutting the fuck up.

I havent seen the games, and I dont feel like it. Zergs and Protoss are little monsters and they bore me. Its like Alien vs Predator, whoever wins, we lose!! O.O


shut the fuck up
Dametri
Profile Joined September 2005
United States726 Posts
October 10 2006 13:18 GMT
#33
On October 09 2006 21:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
[removed quote within quote]

Shut the fuck up.
i once had sex with a dog,twice -z7-TranCe
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 45m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft724
elazer 135
ProTech133
Railgan 60
ViBE33
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm78
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Doublelift13534
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor267
Other Games
summit1g10239
Grubby3981
FrodaN3536
KnowMe222
UpATreeSC50
JuggernautJason32
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2701
BasetradeTV271
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 66
• HeavenSC 48
• musti20045 45
• Response 7
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix80
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2184
Other Games
• Shiphtur966
Upcoming Events
Douyu Cup 2020
7h 45m
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
15h 45m
Mihu vs TBD
Online Event
16h 45m
RSL Revival
1d 3h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 12h
RSL Revival
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Bombastic Starleague
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
OSC
4 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Bombastic Starleague
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
HomeStory Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.