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[SRT] Round of 4 Preview - Mirror Mirror

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[SRT] Round of 4 Preview - Mirror Mirror

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September 3rd, 2013 17:39 GMT

16th SOSPA Ranking Tournament

Table of Contents



Round of 8 Recap
Asserting dominance

Round of 8 Recommended VODs
The best games of the Round of 8

Round of 4 Preview
Mirror Mirror

More on Liquipedia


Most people seems to not have noticed but the quarterfinals are actually over! Last week had some huge match-ups, most notably sSak vs. Killer and hero vs. Movie. Also the opposite of two worlds, Killer absolutely stomping sSak, again. hero and Movie duked it out in what could be one of the closest series in a very very long time. All the favourites advanced (hero vs. Movie is debatable) but Sea was much closer to the brink of death than he would have liked.

Finally the SOSPA coverage team had a small break between the quarterfinals and the semifinals, still people didn't notice that the quarterfinals were actually played. KristofferAG is here to fill you in and recaps the first stage of the elimination bracket. The recommended VOD section returns with the best games of the quarterfinals. At the end is an analytic piece on how the semifinalists has historically done against each other and how they will fair in this tournament's semifinals. Hopefully you're without withdrawals, the semifinals is on in .

Round of 8 Recap

by KristofferAG


(T)sSak vs. (Z)Killer


(T)sSak <New Heartbreak Ridge> (Z)Killer
(T)sSak <New Wind and Cloud> (Z)Killer
(T)sSak <Fighting Spirit> (Z)Killer
(T)sSak <Nostalgia> (Z)Killer
(T)sSak <Circuit Breaker> (Z)Killer


Day one of the quarterfinals started right as we finished the second group stage, with both the two top players in the SOSPA scene playing out their matches. Killer went up against sSak in a match no-one expected sSak to win, and Sea would face HiyA in a potentially amazing TvT, all depending on HiyA's current state of mind and play.

Killer and sSak were up first, with the Terran opening with a one rax expand build, and Killer going for mutalisk off of two bases. The initial harass did some damage, but Killer was forced to pull back and defend as sSak moved out with a marine/medic army. By the time the mutalisks were back in sSak's base, there were turrets everywhere. Though, turrets aren't really an issue when your mutalisk flock one-shots every turret. Killer secured a third while killing off sSak's workers, and the three barracks couldn't spit out enough marines to hold the next push, giving Killer the early lead.

We all know Killer wont hesitate in bringing out the cheese, and that's exactly what he did against sSak on New Wind and Cloud. While sSak went for an even greedier opener, cc first, Killer got himself an early spawning pool. Before it finished, he dispatched five drones to deny any bunker from going up, while his zerglings were morphing. There was little sSak could do against Killer's impressive drone micro, and he eventually got overwhelmed by lings.


Killer deals with mech - ultralisks at three and main army at six.


The third game was where both players got to show their skill, as sSak managed to defend Killer's initial mutalisk harass with turrets going up just in time. Both players spent some time teching up, but as sSak moved out, guardians appeared behind his natural, and it all looked rather grim for the Terran player, as he was unable to breach the third of Killer while his natural was being shelled. Yet somehow, the game stabilized, and soon enough both players found themselves on four mining bases. After defending his third and fourth, Killer got out ultralisks and went on the offensive, taking out the fourth of sSak while also pressuring the fourth and new fifth base, and dropping into the main. sSak defended valiantly, but the constant stream of Zerg units eventually became too much, and Killer secured the 3-0.

(T)Sea vs. (T)HiyA


(T)Sea <New Heartbreak Ridge> (T)HiyA
(T)Sea <New Wind and Cloud> (T)HiyA
(T)Sea <Fighting Spirit> (T)HiyA
(T)Sea <Nostalgia> (T)HiyA
(T)Sea <Circuit Breaker> (T)HiyA


With the first match taking a mere 45 minutes to finish up, it looked like we had a short day ahead of us. That is, till Sea and HiyA decided to take it to game five. In a TvT. That's two hours of joy right there! Sea's TvT is fairly solid, and the same can be said for HiyA, so it wasn't that big of a surprise seeing the players duke it out like they did.

Both players went for a wraith opening in game one, Sea proxying his starport and stopping production after a single wraith was built, before switching to factories and goliaths. HiyA saved himself from Sea's early push with cloaked wraiths, which Sea was unable to do anything about. As the wraith count grew, HiyA was free to snipe siege tanks, goliaths and workers at little cost, which meant that when HiyA's mech push finally came, he was able to slowly push his way through Sea's lines to siege up his natural and deny his third. With a valkyrie and a couple of wraiths, Sea was still able to clean up HiyA's forces and one of his bases, making the game seemingly even. Sea grabbed a lot of worker kills, but HiyA's superior army had too many goliaths for the wraiths to handle, giving HiyA game one.


HiyA firmly believes the counter to valkyries is more wraiths.


Sea proxied a barracks at the start of round two, but didn't use it offensively, building a factory in the back and getting a CC up. HiyA did the same with a CC on the low-ground, but followed it up with yet another wraith build. Sea still managed to get a fairly good contain up for large parts of the game, ensuring that his third was faster than HiyA's, and he even maintained a forward position after his contain was breached. Out of nowhere, Sea did it again, a mass switch into wraiths and a couple valkyries mixed in for good measure. HiyA overreacted and kept making a massive amount of Wraiths, which were denied any harass, and Sea was allowed to macro up a ground army that was far superior to anything HiyA could produce.

Sea was the one that went for the early wraith harass in game three, and he managed to grab well over a dozen worker kills with just two wraiths, while HiyA's mech attack failed to do any substantial damage, ending with a pretty even trade. When there was a move-out, it was from both players, completely avoiding each-others armies. Sea kept his wraiths home to defend, and as HiyA's defensive line got demolished in seconds, the gg was called quickly.

Along comes game four, and with that, our first set on Nostalgia, a map we haven't seen before in SOSPA leagues. Sadly, it wasn't the amazing game we'd been hoping for. HiyA got a fairly strong contain up on Sea early on, and though Sea did manage to get some nice harass in with vultures, he was contained on two bases for a while. When he finally got the third base, HiyA had gone for a surprise switch to wraiths, which let him annihilate Sea's army, bringing it all to the rubber match.

Sea's now closer to elimination than he's been so far this tournament, and neither player were prepared to drop out quite yet. Circuit Breaker was the final battlefield, and knowing that HiyA loves his wraith builds, Sea opened with a couple goliaths, which meant his natural was open to vulture harass. Though it was deflected, a couple SCVs did go down. Sea got wraiths out of his own, and managed to delay HiyA's third and pick up a few extra SCV kills with it. When HiyA suddenly showed off a couple of valkyries, Sea retreated and teched up, going for a larger air force of his own. As HiyA breached Sea's contain, he lost air superiority, while also losing a fourth. With his lead, Sea deo cided texpand along the left side of the map, which was punished by HiyA, with Sea losing two CCs. Once again HiyA lost his fourth, leaving him on a single mining base, while Sea was happily mining from two locations. Still, breaking HiyA's defenses seemed impossible, so Sea did what any smart Terran would do. Doom drop into the main of HiyA. The next couple of minutes saw a starved HiyA trying to make something work, without succeeding, and Sea eventually took the set and match victory.

(T)Mong vs. (T)Ample


(T)Mong <New Heartbreak Ridge> (T)Ample
(T)Mong <New Wind and Cloud> (T)Ample
(T)Mong <Fighting Spirit> (T)Ample
(T)Mong <Nostalgia> (T)Ample
(T)Mong <Circuit Breaker> (T)Ample


The second day of the quarterfinals was kicked off with a TvT between Mong and Ample. Most people probably didn't expect seeing Ample here, or able to take a game off of Mong, even with Mong's roller coaster style of consistency.

As game one proved, wraith is the name of the game for SOSPA Terrans. Mong opened with a proxy rax that was unable to do any substantial damage, but it was the following siege tank push that hurt Ample so much. Four siege tanks made their way across the map, accompanied by two wraiths, that completely ruined the fun for Ample. The natural went down, and even though Ample was able to get a decent amount of wraiths out of his own, Mong switched to goliaths and easily took out whatever forces Ample had left to secure the first win.

On New Wind and Cloud Ample was the one to go for a proxy rax, this one doing some more damage than Mong's attempt, by killing a couple SCVs before a bunker went up to defend. Ample set up a solid contain on Mong's base, and was able to expand to a third while doing so, though Mong's breakout and expansion wasn't far behind, and when Ample attempted to pressure it, Mong used his dropships to defend. The second push was enough to break it, but Mong's counter attack forced Ample to defend, while both players expanded further. Mong was soon on top of harass with his dropships, while Ample slowly moved his army around to deny the mining of his opponent. Soon Ample was set up outside all the bases of Mong, forcing him into the drop play he's most known for. This time, though, it just wasn't meant to be, and Ample managed to tie it up.

In the third game, neither player went for any proxied buildings, though Ample tried to apply pressure with marines to punish Mong's fast expansion. The bunker was already in place for the former CJ Terran, and Ample was forced back home, as Mong prepared his wraith opener. Already with the first push Ample found himself far behind, with a couple of wraiths to defend but no ground army to speak of, and the goliaths made short work of the air fleet.


Moment of brilliance: Mong's vulture micro to keep his tank alive.


Now, game four was another slow-start game, where both players ended up on three bases fairly fast, and Mong being the aggressor initially. Though his first army was destroyed, he employed some seriously stylish moves with a tank and a vulture, with the vulture scooting around destroying mines laid down by Ample as they were placed down while the siege tank was left alone. So cool. Other than that, the game was fairly bland, with Mong showing why he is superior to Ample, as he was able to macro up more efficiently, kill off Ample's army, deflect harass, and counter-attack, getting him the 3-1 victory.

(Z)hero vs. (P)Movie


(Z)hero <New Heartbreak Ridge> (P)Movie
(Z)hero <New Wind and Cloud> (P)Movie
(Z)hero <Fighting Spirit> (P)Movie
(Z)hero <Nostalgia> (P)Movie
(Z)hero <Circuit Breaker> (P)Movie


The final match of the quarterfinals was a PvZ between Movie and hero. If Movie were to lose, there would be no hope for the Protoss in the tournament, and the final would be a TvZ. Knowing hero and seeing his play earlier in the tournament, there was no telling who would come out on top.

What better way for hero to start the quarterfinals the same way he ended the round of 16? His three-hatch hydra bust on New Heartbreak Ridge was about as close to a success as possible, but Movie clearly knew better than to underestimate his opponent, putting up enough cannons to deflect. Movie was allowed to macro up and get out his templars and shuttles, though hero's map control was so good at this early point that the initial shuttle with its templars fell before doing any damage. The following mutalisk play from hero was unable to do any damage due to a nice sair and high templar count, but hero still made a fairly scary army preparing for the attack from Movie. Even with a scary amount of storms hitting nice targets, hero held, without dodging a single storm. As a result, the counter-attack wouldn't have worked, but Movie was still on two bases against the four of hero, and gg was soon called.

Movie opened up with two gateways to apply zealot pressure on hero, which ended up being fairly unsuccessful. However, the shuttle and reaver allowed him to still take his natural and deal some minor damage to hero's worker line. High templars were out in time for the mutalisks, but nice storm dodging allowed hero to snipe multiple templars, goons and probes before being forced out. When Movie eventually did attack, hero decided to avoid his army completely, going for the counter, which turned out to be a disastrous decision. Movie took out the natural and main of hero, while hero only managed to kill the natural and half the production facilities. Even with the defensive lurker line on hero's third base, he was unable to defend against what remained of Movie's army.

Fighting Spirit saw Movie being the initial aggressor, after getting up two bases and a decent amount of corsairs, with a small group of gateway units. It seemed like hero got caught completely by surprise, as he was barely able to get hydralisks out to defend in time, but was unable to counter-attack. Movie managed to lose all his corsairs to scourge in the middle of the map, which triggered a mutalisk tech switch for hero. Though he was able to do substantial damage to Movie's worker line, the Protoss player decided to box everything (multiple times) and a click the Zerg base (multiple times). With the archons, hero's mutas had a hard time sniping the shuttle and reavers, and the defenses were too weak to do anything.

The first major engagement on Nostalgia came well into the game, after both players had set up their third bases, as Movie moved out. The Zerg player had snuck around and managed to get a really good arc on the Protoss army, but with reavers out, hero was still forced back, but as Movie now had to defend his new third, his natural was completely open, and as hero just sniped the shuttle, the reavers were left alone on the third. Zerg forces streamed into the natural and third, and Movie was instantly forced to gg.


This happened. Over and over and over again.


Game five might have been the longest game this SRT, even considering some of the round of 16 games. The first fifteen minutes or so featured a lot of minor battles between the two, as they both expanded to four bases. Movie found himself contained by a large field of lurkers outside his base, so the Zerg went for another couple of bases while Movie attempted to make storm drops put him in the lead. Though he wasn't able to make them put him in the lead, he was able to at least equalize the worker count before hero started placing scourge around his bases to fend off any further drops. Even with the scourge, there were constant worker massacres in multiple locations, stressing hero's multitasking. When corsairs were made as well, the DT drops kept doing massive damage. Movie was about to learn that you can't win a game through harass. As the ultralisk den finished, hero sent a massive attack to take out Movie's fifth base, putting him back on only two mining bases. By the time it was rebuilt, hero was up to eight bases, and pushing the natural and main, taking out multiple tech and production buildings in the process. From this point on it was the slow and inevitable death of Movie, and in spite of many a storm, he was unable to defend forever.


Recommended VODs of the Round of 8

by Epoxide & KristofferAG



In this new section we list all the good games from the previous stage of the tournament for your viewing pleasure! The games are handpicked by me & KristofferAG, the games are in no particular order. Enjoy!


  • (Z)Killer vs. (T)sSak
    Ro8 Game 2 on New Wind and Cloud

    + Show Spoiler +

    14 CC by sSak, Killer shows what he learned from Jaedong on how to punish it.



  • (Z)Killer vs. (T)sSak
    Ro 8 Game 3 on Fighting Spirit

    + Show Spoiler +

    sSak tries to fight off Killer, fails, manages to stabilize with mech. Killer shows how to crush it.



  • (T)Sea vs. (T)HiyA
    Ro8 Game 1 on New Hearbreak Ridge

    + Show Spoiler +

    Proxies, micro battles, and mind games at the start. Action-packed end with lots of base trading and position with tank lines.



  • (T)Sea vs. (T)HiyA
    Ro8 Game 5 on Circuit Breaker

    + Show Spoiler +

    Back and forth TvT deciding who goes on to the semifinals.



  • (Z)hero vs. (P)Movie
    Ro8 Game 2 on New Wind and Cloud

    + Show Spoiler +

    Close PvZ up until the last seconds.



  • (Z)hero vs. (P)Movie
    Ro8 Game 3 on Fighting Spirit

    + Show Spoiler +

    Great awareness, map presence, and multitasking by both players in a long PvZ.




Round of 4 Preview

by Epoxide


(Z)hero vs. (Z)Killer
Wednesday, Sep 04 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)



Sonic's randomizer strikes again. What could have potentially been Mong vs. Killer and Sea vs. hero turned into two mirrors, at least we can be happy that we will see a Killer vs. Sea grand final (unless Avalon happens). Unfortunately the semifinals aren't too exciting, both hero and Mong have been tossed around by their opponents in mirrors for quite some time, however some hope can be found in recent results.

There is no mistaking when saying that Killer has been at the forefront of Zerg ever since he joined the scene. Much like Jaedong he excels the most in ZvZ, having a godlike record at over 78%. No other Zerg, except for maybe Cola, comes close to Killer's brilliant ZvZ. Killer has never lost a SOSPA ZvZ series. He has been pushed to the edge two times. The first time was by aforementioned ZvZ prodigy Cola, pushing him to the fifth and deciding game in a Super Match almost exactly one year ago. The second time was by hero, just as recent as the semifinals of SRT14. It was yet another 3-2 and Killer barely managed to keep his perfect best-of-series record.


You know I just ling all-inned in all those games, right?


Since then Killer has played two ZvZ's against Fengzi in SRT16, winning 2-0. hero has played three ZvZ's, winning against ZergFight, ZergMaN, and Terror, the first two in SRT15 and the latest one in SRT16. According to their results they are both still going strong. But lets be honest here. hero has just over 50% win rate and has losses against Larva, beast, and ZeLoT. I mean it's freaking ZeLoT, have you seen his muta micro? It's unacceptable, I want to say 3-0 but hero played well in their last encounter so I'll give him one win.

(Z)hero 1-3 (Z)Killer.

(T)Sea vs. (T)Mong
Wednesday, Sep 04 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)



Mong almost looks like his old self again. Making it to the semifinals from the tough round of 16 group he had is a testament to his current skill level. Unfortunately for us there isn't much we can analyze about his current TvT. He played one game against HiyA which he won quite handily, and in the quarterfinals he was paired against Ample who isn't exactly known to be the best Terran player. Nothing bad has come out of Mong this whole tournament but neither has it from Sea.

Sea and Mong have faced each other three times. Sea taking all the encounters, 3-1, 2-1, and 3-2 respectively. The latest series came in SRT14. Sea's form has just been improving lately and he is still riding high on his unstoppable tsunami wave. Even though the series against HiyA was really close it didn't feel like Sea was playing bad at all. In the first game Sea was far far behind and still kept doing amazing stuff almost pulling it through, and in the other game he lost featured yet another early setback by build-orders. In the games he won he looked ridiculously good and was no way near losing.


Time to reel in a fourth one.


The reason HiyA could win those games was much due to his incredible wraith micro and smart builds. Mong hasn't exactly been known for his two-ports nor his micro of the wraiths. I still got to give it to my second favourite Terran, he has been playing really well lately, but unfortunately it ends here for him. Sea is on a mission.

(T)Sea 3-1 (T)Mong.



This article about the 16th SOSPA Ranking Tournament was brought to you by - Epoxide & KristofferAG
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
September 03 2013 17:42 GMT
#2
Sea v Mong should be gooood. Also I like that we're guaranteed TvZ grand finals and third place match :3

GO SEA
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 03 2013 18:02 GMT
#3
I would've preferred a flip as in Mong vs Killer and Sea vs hero then we get 2 TvZs and almost guaranteed a TvZ final unless there's an upset with either match. Good writeup! Go Sea!
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9499 Posts
September 03 2013 18:05 GMT
#4
Sea and Killer looks to be Flash and Jaedong of the SOSPA scene. It will be interesting to see how some of the newest additions to SOSPA (JangBi, Mini) will fare against them.

hero and Mong are pretty good too, so if the predictions are correct, we should have an awesome 3rd place match as well!
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
September 03 2013 18:21 GMT
#5
Sea to take it all, and Mong for third place!
Gogo terrans, now you still can, with all future arriving protoss.

"As the ultralisk den finished, hero...."
Ultralisk den? :')
Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
735 Posts
September 03 2013 18:27 GMT
#6
Sea vs Mong will be good, but I think that it will be another Sea vs Killer finals again. Can't wait until JangBi and the likes join SOSPA. Competition should be stronger!
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
September 03 2013 18:33 GMT
#7
killer and mong had a match earlier today on snipealot, both off race each other's race. pretty funny. killer win btw
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
September 03 2013 19:02 GMT
#8
this is the best semis, it guarantees killer vs Sea final. If it was the other way we could have a mong vs sea final.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
September 03 2013 19:03 GMT
#9
On September 04 2013 04:02 dRaW wrote:
this is the best semis, it guarantees killer vs Sea final. If it was the other way we could have a mong vs sea final.

You really think Mong could beat Killer?
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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Last Edited: 2013-09-03 19:05:53
September 03 2013 19:05 GMT
#10
Sea vs Killer for the finals!
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
September 03 2013 19:06 GMT
#11
On September 04 2013 04:03 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 04:02 dRaW wrote:
this is the best semis, it guarantees killer vs Sea final. If it was the other way we could have a mong vs sea final.

You really think Mong could beat Killer?
mong may beat hero, i think that'd be a bit more realistic
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
September 03 2013 19:08 GMT
#12
On September 04 2013 04:06 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 04:03 Epoxide wrote:
On September 04 2013 04:02 dRaW wrote:
this is the best semis, it guarantees killer vs Sea final. If it was the other way we could have a mong vs sea final.

You really think Mong could beat Killer?
mong may beat hero, i think that'd be a bit more realistic

I agree but what does that have to do with anything?
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
September 03 2013 19:54 GMT
#13
On September 04 2013 03:21 Yorbon wrote:
Sea to take it all, and Mong for third place!
Gogo terrans, now you still can, with all future arriving protoss.

"As the ultralisk den finished, hero...."
Ultralisk den? :')

Hydralisk Cavern?

Ehehe
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
September 03 2013 19:59 GMT
#14
On September 04 2013 04:03 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 04:02 dRaW wrote:
this is the best semis, it guarantees killer vs Sea final. If it was the other way we could have a mong vs sea final.

You really think Mong could beat Killer?


I'll be laughing all the way to the liquibet bank if mong does beat killer
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
September 03 2013 20:00 GMT
#15
On September 04 2013 04:59 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 04:03 Epoxide wrote:
On September 04 2013 04:02 dRaW wrote:
this is the best semis, it guarantees killer vs Sea final. If it was the other way we could have a mong vs sea final.

You really think Mong could beat Killer?


I'll be laughing all the way to the liquibet bank if mong does beat killer

They aren't facing each other though xP
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 03 2013 20:02 GMT
#16
On September 04 2013 05:00 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 04:59 amazingxkcd wrote:
On September 04 2013 04:03 Epoxide wrote:
On September 04 2013 04:02 dRaW wrote:
this is the best semis, it guarantees killer vs Sea final. If it was the other way we could have a mong vs sea final.

You really think Mong could beat Killer?


I'll be laughing all the way to the liquibet bank if mong does beat killer

They aren't facing each other though xP

this lol. Maybe in a future SOSPA event they will but ya, doubt mong can beat killer then again, he's in beast mode lately.
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
September 03 2013 20:28 GMT
#17
I really wanna see Killer vs Sea.

Mong vs Sea will be awesome too.

Can't wait !! Hype for Sea !!!
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 03 2013 20:42 GMT
#18
mong vs hero finals would be a delicious twist of events :D
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
September 03 2013 20:53 GMT
#19
On September 04 2013 05:42 ArvickHero wrote:
mong vs hero finals would be a delicious twist of events :D

you monster
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 21:58:41
September 03 2013 21:56 GMT
#20
On September 04 2013 04:08 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 04:06 Yorbon wrote:
On September 04 2013 04:03 Epoxide wrote:
On September 04 2013 04:02 dRaW wrote:
this is the best semis, it guarantees killer vs Sea final. If it was the other way we could have a mong vs sea final.

You really think Mong could beat Killer?
mong may beat hero, i think that'd be a bit more realistic


I agree but what does that have to do with anything?
The road to a sea vs mong final?

As in, Mong vs killer isnt the only alternative scenario.
Birdie
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New Zealand4438 Posts
September 03 2013 22:33 GMT
#21
hero ez
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
September 03 2013 23:08 GMT
#22
On September 04 2013 06:56 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 04:08 Epoxide wrote:
On September 04 2013 04:06 Yorbon wrote:
On September 04 2013 04:03 Epoxide wrote:
On September 04 2013 04:02 dRaW wrote:
this is the best semis, it guarantees killer vs Sea final. If it was the other way we could have a mong vs sea final.

You really think Mong could beat Killer?
mong may beat hero, i think that'd be a bit more realistic


I agree but what does that have to do with anything?
The road to a sea vs mong final?

As in, Mong vs killer isnt the only alternative scenario.

But Sea plays vs Mong in the semifinals.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
September 03 2013 23:54 GMT
#23
Thanks for the writeup only think I did not understand is this references to Avalon.

Sonic's randomizer strikes again. What could have potentially been Mong vs. Killer and Sea vs. hero turned into two mirrors, at least we can be happy that we will see a Killer vs. Sea grand final (unless Avalon happens)
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
September 04 2013 03:26 GMT
#24
On September 04 2013 08:54 Sawamura wrote:
Thanks for the writeup only think I did not understand is this references to Avalon.

Show nested quote +
Sonic's randomizer strikes again. What could have potentially been Mong vs. Killer and Sea vs. hero turned into two mirrors, at least we can be happy that we will see a Killer vs. Sea grand final (unless Avalon happens)


uhhh I think it has to do with a potential Jaedong vs iris turning into a calm vs kwanro final, or in our case a sea vs killer turns into a hero vs mong.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
September 04 2013 04:25 GMT
#25
Keep up the good work guys. I always leave smiling after seeing a topic like this. If build innovation started happening again, it would just make my day.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
September 04 2013 04:29 GMT
#26
On September 04 2013 13:25 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Keep up the good work guys. I always leave smiling after seeing a topic like this. If build innovation started happening again, it would just make my day.

You need to see ZeLoT play ;D then you'll see some build innovation.
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
September 04 2013 11:09 GMT
#27
On September 04 2013 12:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 08:54 Sawamura wrote:
Thanks for the writeup only think I did not understand is this references to Avalon.

Sonic's randomizer strikes again. What could have potentially been Mong vs. Killer and Sea vs. hero turned into two mirrors, at least we can be happy that we will see a Killer vs. Sea grand final (unless Avalon happens)


uhhh I think it has to do with a potential Jaedong vs iris turning into a calm vs kwanro final, or in our case a sea vs killer turns into a hero vs mong.

Correct ^_^
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Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
September 04 2013 11:12 GMT
#28
gogo Sea
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
September 04 2013 17:09 GMT
#29
I was just saying I think under right circumstances Mong could beat Killer.

But: Killer can't lose to Hero and Mong can't beat Sea, therefore it is very likely this was the result. (Killer/Sea Advance easily)
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
September 04 2013 17:12 GMT
#30
On September 05 2013 02:09 dRaW wrote:
I was just saying I think under right circumstances Mong could beat Killer.

But: Killer can't lose to Hero and Mong can't beat Sea, therefore it is very likely this was the result. (Killer/Sea Advance easily)

I'm surprised by that, what makes you think that? I'm genuinely curious.
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