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JonIrenicus
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Italy602 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 09:55:48
June 21 2013 09:54 GMT
#1
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jormal1ty
Profile Joined November 2011
Finland72 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 10:06:20
June 21 2013 10:06 GMT
#2
Its called Iccup. Liquipedia is good place to start
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Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
June 21 2013 10:14 GMT
#3
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/sc_start.html

1. Download Brood War from FTP (I would recommend using their download even if you own the game already).
2. Download Anti-Hack Launcher.
3. Register an account on the website (verify by email).

Then run iCCup Launcher to start Brood War and log in with the same info you used for the website.

Use Liquipedia for build orders (click 1on1 race strategy).

Also, if you use the search function you can find plenty of other threads similar to this, and probably some for other questions you may have.
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
June 21 2013 10:40 GMT
#4
There is a lot of information on this portal that Gecko wrote: (Wiki)Portal:Beginners
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 15:03:22
June 21 2013 15:02 GMT
#5
I'd recommend installing from the original discs since it comes with all the original maps. They aren't necessarily balanced from a pro standpoint.... but they are awesome. Then run it once connecting to a bnet server and it'll automatically patch to the newest version. I mean, this is simpler than dl'ing from ICCUP so don't know why you wouldn't. The patch update may took a while when you first connect depending on your internet speed.

As for getting started.... that's no small challenge since I don't think there are a ton of new player around these days. I'd recommend starting with the campaign to get a feel for things (though strategies to win the campaigns aren't really that transferable to 1v1 play.)

I *think* ICCUP would be the best place to get started, though you can check US EAST/WEST to see if there are any ums or BGH games still going on. I can't remember the TL clan that was mostly newer/lower level players but that would also be a good place to look for mentors/people to play with.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
June 21 2013 15:15 GMT
#6
Good luck to you OP. Never played BW and starting on ICCUP.

Understand you are going to lose A LOT of games (and i don't mean 10 or 20) but last time i got back to BW i lost 71games straight on ICCUP

But don't give up ! It's an awesome game !
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FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
June 21 2013 15:24 GMT
#7
Im curious how installing and patching "simply far easier" thrn downloading a 112 meg file thats pre patched and even comes with iccup launcher....
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pheer
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
5391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 15:50:10
June 21 2013 15:47 GMT
#8
On June 22 2013 00:24 FromShouri wrote:
Im curious how installing and patching "simply far easier" thrn downloading a 112 meg file thats pre patched and even comes with iccup launcher....

Installing from CDs is not easier or faster. Following Sero's post is the easiest and fastest way. Jonoman92's suggestion is only better if you want to make sure you get all the blizz maps (which nobody plays on anyway).
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Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
June 21 2013 16:15 GMT
#9
IIRC the ICCup version of bw won't let you play on any of the battle.net servers, which could be good for someone just starting out. Not a massive deal but could be good if you want less serious games (as your just starting out)
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6638 Posts
June 21 2013 16:18 GMT
#10
On June 22 2013 01:15 Pads wrote:
IIRC the ICCup version of bw won't let you play on any of the battle.net servers, which could be good for someone just starting out. Not a massive deal but could be good if you want less serious games (as your just starting out)

It does if you use a cdkey changer to put a legit cd key in.

I would advise avoiding Bnet servers altogether though, may as well get straight on iccup.
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 17:14:20
June 21 2013 17:14 GMT
#11
also, what race would you suggest me playing? XD


Have you played SC2? Most people stick with the same race. The best way though to picking a race is to play games with all 3 races and see which one is the most comfortable, like the one that you feel playing in a natural way. Nothing beats actually playing to determine that.

And in the end, is there a guide with builds, etc??


liquipedia is a good place to start learning races, strategies, and what not. TLPD here also has an amazing repertoire of pro game vods to let you see how the pros play. I would avoid most games that occured in the 2012 SPL leagues since that was a fuck up in general with SC2 taking over the KESPA scene. Snipealot has a stream running 24/7 with fpvod of ex pros playing on afreeca server alongside SOSPA tournaments, of which you can watch over at twitch tv or embedded here in the stream section.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19265 Posts
June 21 2013 17:39 GMT
#12
On June 22 2013 02:14 amazingxkcd wrote:
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also, what race would you suggest me playing? XD


Have you played SC2? Most people stick with the same race. The best way though to picking a race is to play games with all 3 races and see which one is the most comfortable, like the one that you feel playing in a natural way. Nothing beats actually playing to determine that.

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And in the end, is there a guide with builds, etc??


liquipedia is a good place to start learning races, strategies, and what not. TLPD here also has an amazing repertoire of pro game vods to let you see how the pros play. I would avoid most games that occured in the 2012 SPL leagues since that was a fuck up in general with SC2 taking over the KESPA scene. Snipealot has a stream running 24/7 with fpvod of ex pros playing on afreeca server alongside SOSPA tournaments, of which you can watch over at twitch tv or embedded here in the stream section.

My suggestion for what race he wants to play is to play the campaign. The campaign is awesome! and it may even lead to you loving a certain race based on the lore and such which is why I love protoss so much. So that's certainly one way to figure it out.
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codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
June 21 2013 23:33 GMT
#13
On June 22 2013 00:02 Jonoman92 wrote:
I'd recommend installing from the original discs since it comes with all the original maps. They aren't necessarily balanced from a pro standpoint.... but they are awesome. Then run it once connecting to a bnet server and it'll automatically patch to the newest version. I mean, this is simpler than dl'ing from ICCUP so don't know why you wouldn't. The patch update may took a while when you first connect depending on your internet speed.

As for getting started.... that's no small challenge since I don't think there are a ton of new player around these days. I'd recommend starting with the campaign to get a feel for things (though strategies to win the campaigns aren't really that transferable to 1v1 play.)

I *think* ICCUP would be the best place to get started, though you can check US EAST/WEST to see if there are any ums or BGH games still going on. I can't remember the TL clan that was mostly newer/lower level players but that would also be a good place to look for mentors/people to play with.

Yeah. Another thing that's difficult is that you can't select different AI difficulties; the AI is permanently on INSANE. You can choose to play against a Terran AI though, since it doesn't seem to have a clue what it's doing.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 23:35:53
June 21 2013 23:35 GMT
#14
On June 21 2013 18:54 JonIrenicus wrote:
Ok, so wonder, I never played Brood war. And I mean never. I've got the original discs, but I remember someday I read that there is no need for example, to install starcraft 1 if you gotta play CCUP (What's that???)

So, for a complete newbie like me, is there a guide that shows what must I do to play Sc1?
also, what race would you suggest me playing? XD

And in the end, is there a guide with builds, etc??


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JonIrenicus
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Italy602 Posts
June 23 2013 11:05 GMT
#15
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9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
June 23 2013 20:15 GMT
#16
When I just started I played on the US west and east servers, not worth it.
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iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
June 23 2013 21:10 GMT
#17
Just host some custom games or ask for D- games. I also suck and if you want to play me, it would be ok. Drache. on ccup.
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
June 24 2013 02:33 GMT
#18
I don't know how the activity level is, but the TL low level BW community I couldn't remember is sGs.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272674&currentpage=27
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11363 Posts
June 24 2013 07:26 GMT
#19
On June 24 2013 11:33 Jonoman92 wrote:
I don't know how the activity level is, but the TL low level BW community I couldn't remember is sGs.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272674&currentpage=27

The skype is still quite active, but it's a little more broad then just low level players... dRaW hangs out in there for instance. But also really low level players, so it's a mix.
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Deus ex machina
Profile Joined October 2009
22 Posts
June 24 2013 08:54 GMT
#20
There used to be a hamachi channel.Anyone know if it's still active?
Zuxo
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden395 Posts
June 24 2013 14:12 GMT
#21
Hey I also just started playing =). If you want to add me my nick is the same as the one I have here on TL.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19265 Posts
June 24 2013 14:48 GMT
#22
On June 24 2013 16:26 Falling wrote:
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On June 24 2013 11:33 Jonoman92 wrote:
I don't know how the activity level is, but the TL low level BW community I couldn't remember is sGs.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272674&currentpage=27

The skype is still quite active, but it's a little more broad then just low level players... dRaW hangs out in there for instance. But also really low level players, so it's a mix.

dRaW is as low level as it gets. Bam!
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11363 Posts
June 24 2013 14:57 GMT
#23
oh snap.
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KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
June 26 2013 14:31 GMT
#24
is the brood war community still big enough that its worth picking up ?
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11363 Posts
June 26 2013 14:40 GMT
#25
Well I think so. There is 385 people on iccup right now and as along as you can host, you're good. I have never had troubles finding a game.
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quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 17:13:15
June 26 2013 17:12 GMT
#26
Yea, it's relatively ok at low levels (D-, D, D+, C-) , but when you get to like C+ and above it's hard to find games, so you have to know people and ask them for games. That's not a problem you'll have though, since you won't reach that level in the near future. When you do reach it, chances are, you'll be a part of some team, teamleague, tournament or community and will be able to meet people that will want to practice with you and hang out. Or you could then go to play on the Fish server. (korean server with a LOT of players and a lot of GOOD players).

As people say, prepare to lose the first 40 games until you get the hang of it, but that one win you get after that will be priceless!

So yea, it's worth it.

Btw, there's a bunch of higher level people on playing on lower levels, since there's not many games on ~C ranks and above, so you might run into a pretty decent players from time to time, so just don't be discouraged when they dismantle you! xD
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 26 2013 18:15 GMT
#27
On June 27 2013 02:12 quirinus wrote:
Yea, it's relatively ok at low levels (D-, D, D+, C-) , but when you get to like C+ and above it's hard to find games, so you have to know people and ask them for games. That's not a problem you'll have though, since you won't reach that level in the near future. When you do reach it, chances are, you'll be a part of some team, teamleague, tournament or community and will be able to meet people that will want to practice with you and hang out. Or you could then go to play on the Fish server. (korean server with a LOT of players and a lot of GOOD players).

As people say, prepare to lose the first 40 games until you get the hang of it, but that one win you get after that will be priceless!

So yea, it's worth it.

Btw, there's a bunch of higher level people on playing on lower levels, since there's not many games on ~C ranks and above, so you might run into a pretty decent players from time to time, so just don't be discouraged when they dismantle you! xD


More like a 1000 games first...

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