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TheSlowHand
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)177 Posts
May 21 2003 17:38 GMT
#1
http://game.stoo.com/game.php?ta=read&no=8070&p=&t=7&c=

Brief contents:

"Although I need more advice, I think Terran is an attractive race" He is planning to play Terran after current OGN. He thinks zerg is not so strong, and ZvZ is boring, relative to other races. His manager wants to make him a random player, but Chojja refused, because Protoss is even worse than Zerg.

Less Filling! Great Taste !!!
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
May 21 2003 17:39 GMT
#2
Could be possible... Chojja does have the speed to play terran. It would be a great loss to zerg players though.
We decide our own destiny
Zzang
Profile Joined May 2003
1303 Posts
May 21 2003 17:40 GMT
#3
Is he playing some X-Box game on that pic ?
http://www.battlefieldheroes.com/en/heroes/272999807
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
May 21 2003 19:14 GMT
#4
the interesting thing about that is chojja was like the new pioneer of his style of zerg... then he's betraying us
8===D~~
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12238 Posts
May 21 2003 19:17 GMT
#5
Kind of like Boxer and his pioneering of the Protoss race, then switched to Terran? =)
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Hydrone
Profile Joined January 2003
Canada234 Posts
May 21 2003 19:22 GMT
#6
Hes sure going to own TvZ
Quote
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 21 2003 19:45 GMT
#7
as terran he would be a nada clone, but 3 years behind in experience
JAM THE FUCKER!
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
May 21 2003 19:51 GMT
#8
there is no such thing as a NaDa clone you can't mimic nada
Remember 11-12-04. 이윤열 ~. |||| ZerO, IriS, JangBi, Stork, BackHo! Mah Jae Yoon is no longer a feared entity.
IHaveNoSound
Profile Joined May 2003
Australia127 Posts
May 21 2003 19:57 GMT
#9
good luck
Amnesty
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2054 Posts
May 21 2003 19:59 GMT
#10
Random player would be thanks

To bad he dont like toss.
The sky just is, and goes on and on; and we play all our BW games beneath it.
RickJSanchez
Profile Joined March 2003
United States1585 Posts
May 21 2003 20:03 GMT
#11
hrm, someone said Nada's tvz wasnt good on a previous post, if thats true then i would think he would be more like a Boxer clone for tvz. unless i missed something-
pemos1:have u ever heard of me? RickJSanchez:just from wgtour pemos1:o thats it? lol.RickJSanchez:that about it pemosl:wow :[ pemosl:im pretty known on west
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
May 21 2003 20:18 GMT
#12
SANCHEZ WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
WHAT ARE YOU BASING YOUR COMMENTS ON?
NADA CLONE? BOXER CLONE? YOU ARE OPENLY ADMITTING THAT YOU ARE NOT EVEN AWARE OF THE GENERAL SKILL LEVEL OF NADA'S TERRAN VS ZERG. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING.
8===D~~
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 21 2003 20:18 GMT
#13
chojja is like 80% keyboard
nada is like 60/40 key mouse
boxer is easily 75% mouse

boxer plays entirely different from nada and chojja
JAM THE FUCKER!
IHaveNoSound
Profile Joined May 2003
Australia127 Posts
May 21 2003 20:20 GMT
#14
i was going to post something about the silliness of all this 'clone' talk, but i knew i'd look stupid. wow
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 21 2003 20:20 GMT
#15
On May 22 2003 04:51 Gryffindor_us wrote:
there is no such thing as a NaDa clone you can't mimic nada


nada is a mechanical man

boxer is inimmicable
JAM THE FUCKER!
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-21 20:22:56
May 21 2003 20:21 GMT
#16
the way chojja approaches the game with zerg is so drastically different from boxer and nada in such fundamental ways its impossible to predict how his preference will be with the race.

however it's a safe bet that anyone who starts to play Terran these days will look up to Nada above all others :O

it's quite curious chojja would talk about switching totally to Terran in the midst of one of the most dominant Zerg times in recent memory, though. ~
8===D~~
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 21 2003 20:26 GMT
#17
an another note, i believe that bw champion progamers would also be world-class racecar drivers or fighter pilots if given the opportunity.
JAM THE FUCKER!
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
May 21 2003 20:28 GMT
#18
... why
racecar driving would be dull compared to brood war. FPS players would make good race car drivers, as FPS's are instincts/reflexes... bw is constant creativity and strategical change ...
8===D~~
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 21 2003 21:03 GMT
#19
i concede that you understand bw at a higher conceptual level than i do
i also stand by my statement given top bw players' physical and mental abilities
JAM THE FUCKER!
ejai63
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2101 Posts
May 21 2003 21:16 GMT
#20
has anyone successfully changed races? Grr... and Chrh used to be random, but I dont cant really remember anyone as good as chojja switching
1-10-5
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 21 2003 21:20 GMT
#21
it would be comparable to grrrr's switch to protoss pre 1.04
only terran became the dominant race a long time ago
grrrr anticipated the change and pre-empted everyone else
JAM THE FUCKER!
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 21 2003 21:20 GMT
#22
and grrrr was all zerg, not random you infant
JAM THE FUCKER!
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
May 21 2003 21:22 GMT
#23
the biggest thing about BW is the people who excel at it are *always* interested and motivated most by the specific and unique challenges brood war (and similar games) put up against the player...

i was just pointing out that race car driving and the like, while easily within the realms of top brood war players from an objective physical/mental capability standpoint, i have a feeling most of the players would lack the motivation to excel in that specific activity. activities that are similar to brood war, in my opinion:

poker, backgammon, chess, go, tennis (and all other head to head non-team sports), golf.

golf is obviously the sore thumb here, but it's a pretty intense game. the process of learning and playing is basically entirely a struggle with oneself with absolutely no outside modifiers ;O

this doesn't count other videogames like tekken3 or whatever=]~
8===D~~
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 21 2003 21:24 GMT
#24
and people are stupid enough to bet against you
JAM THE FUCKER!
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
May 21 2003 21:29 GMT
#25
pardon?
8===D~~
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 21 2003 21:35 GMT
#26
alot of them see that kid with the zealot doll
big mistake
JAM THE FUCKER!
helz
Profile Joined March 2003
Canada50 Posts
May 21 2003 22:04 GMT
#27
On May 22 2003 04:17 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Kind of like Boxer and his pioneering of the Protoss race, then switched to Terran? =)


Boxer used to play P?
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
May 21 2003 22:06 GMT
#28
-.-

IMAGE PLAY!
8===D~~
N.sL)_CirCle
Profile Joined December 2002
New Zealand478 Posts
May 21 2003 22:11 GMT
#29
(waits for dudey to announce his change to terran)


hah just joking - I know its inaccurate. couldn't resist though
I'm home with the downies
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 21 2003 22:19 GMT
#30
someone give me fucking admin and ban power
JAM THE FUCKER!
N.sL)_CirCle
Profile Joined December 2002
New Zealand478 Posts
May 21 2003 22:26 GMT
#31
Nono what you meant to say was:

"someone give me a fucking sense of humour"
I'm home with the downies
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-21 22:30:04
May 21 2003 22:29 GMT
#32
if you have to explain to people that you are joking your jokes are not funny

just kidding
8===D~~
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 21 2003 22:32 GMT
#33
hahah
N.sL)_CirCle
Profile Joined December 2002
New Zealand478 Posts
May 21 2003 22:39 GMT
#34
haha

I cant be fucked explaining why I stated it was a joke, cause some lame is bound to pick that to peices as well.
I'm home with the downies
ejai63
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2101 Posts
May 21 2003 22:47 GMT
#35
casper is a bastard
1-10-5
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28712 Posts
May 21 2003 23:22 GMT
#36
what dudey said is true though.
if I read a really funny joke and then whoever made it says "just kidding" afterwards my laughter will change into a giggle at best.
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no1important
Profile Joined December 2002
557 Posts
May 21 2003 23:25 GMT
#37
since he hates ZvZ why not play:
ZvT
ZvP
and...
TvZ
no1important
Profile Joined December 2002
557 Posts
May 21 2003 23:26 GMT
#38
oh on another note...didnt [B_Blade]Yooi switch from toss to terran a while back?
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
May 21 2003 23:33 GMT
#39
almost all of the amature players in korea have switched to t/z
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
Mydnyte2
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada101 Posts
May 22 2003 00:41 GMT
#40
OMFG! When i 1st started playing 1:1, I was shown a ChOJJa[NC] replay, and from then on I have been using zerg forever.... I am a zerg player, and zerg lover. ChOJJa is my favorite pro, his change to Terran..
...
PLZ STAY ZERG!
I AM SO LOVE YOU CHOJJA!
T_T!
Sometimes... bnet @uswest id: IdeA)fOryOu
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 22 2003 01:03 GMT
#41
Casper you infant grrr was infact random (otherwise plz feel free to explain why I have vods from an ongamenet final grrr vs hot where he randoms, why I have read it everytime someone talks about grrr's gaming history etc)..

Regards FrozenArbiter
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
IHaveNoSound
Profile Joined May 2003
Australia127 Posts
May 22 2003 02:16 GMT
#42
back when blizzard held tournaments, Grrr was in fact zerg. that was pre 1.04. Grrr won one, if i recall correctly. shame they didn't keep those battle reports somewhere? have they? has anybody got them?
IHaveNoSound
Profile Joined May 2003
Australia127 Posts
May 22 2003 02:18 GMT
#43
and no, nobody was making Vods of games back then.
Dealer
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1368 Posts
May 22 2003 02:21 GMT
#44
Grrr wasn't really successful after his switch either, so he's not the best example =)

ChRh used to be one of the greatest (runner-up Game-Q wc etc) before he switched to terran-only.
h e l l o e
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
May 22 2003 09:20 GMT
#45
Wtf r u talking about?
The only blizzard tournament Grrrr was in and won it was World Blizzard Broodwar Tournament where Grrrr (P) defeated [b_blade]Leader (T).

Stop talkin about Grrrr if u don't know.
Pure fan
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 22 2003 09:35 GMT
#46
I seriously thought Grrrr... was random in his earlier years. Wasn't it during the Finals of one tourney against TheBoy that he went 0-2 as T and Z but once he switched to P, he stormed back to win the tourney 3-2. I believe he has stuck with P since that tourney.

Correct me if I am wrong. Thanks.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
May 22 2003 09:40 GMT
#47
I'm pretty sure that's what happened.

Also, Chojja could do...

Pvt
Zvp
Tvz
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
FrEaK[S.sIR]
Profile Joined October 2002
2373 Posts
May 22 2003 09:43 GMT
#48
Grrrr... was random for awhile in his early years in korea. Gamax used to have vods of it.
esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
May 22 2003 09:49 GMT
#49
yeah i think Yooi used to be P like a year ago or so
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 22 2003 09:57 GMT
#50
Yooi was Protoss a year ago. I have three replays of Boxer[T] v Yooi[P] on Jungle Story and a few others.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
tnt-ank
Profile Joined April 2003
Sweden358 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-22 10:10:09
May 22 2003 09:58 GMT
#51
First person vod of Chojja playing T is availible here.

http://fedorov.dyndns.org/fpvod/zerg.co.kr/#real_story/terran/12th_[gsp]chojja(t)-vs-protoss.asf

It's old.

I give up trying to make it a link...
Since you cant stream it you will have to go to the site and look it up and then dl it.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
May 22 2003 11:44 GMT
#52
Going ZvP, ZvT, and TvZ seems like the best thing to do if he just hates ZvZ.
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 22 2003 11:50 GMT
#53
uh, battle.net hosted "world championship" tournaments. Grrrr won one of them. Grrrr was zerg then.
NoNameLoser
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1508 Posts
May 22 2003 11:59 GMT
#54
BW.com used to have vods of grr and others. I remember even watching the 3 game series of Grrr v [b_blade]leader on my crappy 56k. Too bad the vods arent working now.
poland
Profile Joined February 2003
Poland956 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-22 12:07:07
May 22 2003 12:05 GMT
#55
On May 22 2003 05:18 ilnp wrote:
SANCHEZ WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
WHAT ARE YOU BASING YOUR COMMENTS ON?
NADA CLONE? BOXER CLONE? YOU ARE OPENLY ADMITTING THAT YOU ARE NOT EVEN AWARE OF THE GENERAL SKILL LEVEL OF NADA'S TERRAN VS ZERG. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING.

stfu ilnp..bm, he doesnt waist his life learning about broodwar/progamers. Not saying thats a bad thing ( i know some stuff about progamers) but no reason to flame.
edit: spam->flame
i dont believe in mimes... do u?
DReaMe
Profile Joined October 2002
United States337 Posts
May 22 2003 12:10 GMT
#56
playing matchups is just idiotic. At the level of the professional players, if grrr chose terran vs a zerg player, the zerg player could easily switch to protoss or terran himself. Pretty much every professional player can play each race at a top competetive level, its just flat out _stupid_.
wo chej ma go ren
Sky101
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States1758 Posts
May 22 2003 12:55 GMT
#57
On May 22 2003 21:10 DReaMe wrote:
Pretty much every professional player can play each race at a top competetive level, its just flat out _stupid_.

froz chose zerg in a fun game (at San Jose) prelims, and lost to some dude ZvT, when Froz raped that due so easily prior to that zvt game.
Peter, Dang, pm me!!!
RaGe_banned
Profile Joined March 2003
United States538 Posts
May 22 2003 12:57 GMT
#58
On May 22 2003 18:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
I seriously thought Grrrr... was random in his earlier years. Wasn't it during the Finals of one tourney against TheBoy that he went 0-2 as T and Z but once he switched to P, he stormed back to win the tourney 3-2. I believe he has stuck with P since that tourney.

Correct me if I am wrong. Thanks.


Grrrr was a Z user before P. When he was The~Ins@ne~FroG he was Z, and when he was X'Ds~Insane(:, he became a P user after he switched to the ID X'Ds~Grrrr...
Beyonder = The One Thousand Three Hundred and Thirty Seven King
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28712 Posts
May 22 2003 13:02 GMT
#59
I watched hot vs chojja play pvt (random vs random) on tv

but I cant remember who was terran and who was protoss.. either way the terran blew horribly.
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Z-SiNiStER-
Profile Joined March 2003
Canada372 Posts
May 22 2003 13:55 GMT
#60
the smart move would be just
TvZ
ZvP
ZvT

But iim for one of the best Zerg players coming over to the darkside we like to calle Terranville


Cheers
Hacking in BW is like the Special Olympics... Even if you win you still feel Retarded! :O
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
May 22 2003 13:59 GMT
#61
On May 22 2003 22:02 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I watched hot vs chojja play pvt (random vs random) on tv

but I cant remember who was terran and who was protoss.. either way the terran blew horribly.


chojja was T
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
May 22 2003 14:07 GMT
#62
lol, stick with zerg chojja.
4 cheers for Ryan307
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
May 22 2003 16:55 GMT
#63
Don't tell me what to do...
TheSlowHand
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)177 Posts
May 22 2003 17:32 GMT
#64
Other players who switched:

KIMWANCHUL used to be Z, now he's an unsuccessful T.

[B-Blade]anyppi used to be P, now he's ur..... Night Elf

Less Filling! Great Taste !!!
Born)Slippy
Profile Joined October 2002
Norway1904 Posts
May 22 2003 17:37 GMT
#65
"Just kidding" is the gayest stuff so-called contemporary netiquette has summoned up. JK is an abonimation. If you can't make fun out of people without ensuring that you are covered on all sides, you deserve to be made fun of yourself. Errr... did that make sense? It's 3 am here. Bedtime. Yes.
ocoini
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
648 Posts
May 22 2003 17:42 GMT
#66
Well...hmm..wasent Elky protoss?
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AK-Nemesis
Profile Joined December 2002
2005 Posts
May 22 2003 18:36 GMT
#67
elky was toss/terran before i think
switched cuz he thought his pvz sucks.
Nemesis has left the building~
CeltiC.MoOn
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany160 Posts
May 22 2003 19:06 GMT
#68
i want to see a pic of casper please, should be funny.
regarding to his behavior here he must be a 2 m giant with big big muscles and the brain of a nobel price bearer. omg i'm scared t.t
fw *
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)1201 Posts
May 22 2003 19:24 GMT
#69
chojja said he won't. he thinks he may switch after winning all major tourneys but not permanently.
NoNameLoser
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1508 Posts
May 22 2003 20:25 GMT
#70
"after winning all major tournaments" ??? thats like.... never.
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