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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 23:04:40
December 21 2012 23:02 GMT
#21
No I didn't mean literally 50 gates, just mean a lot. I remember it was definitely best vs a terran on a jungle tileset map and it was a PL game that I watched live, which means it is from 2009 and forward.

edit: live from a stream, not live as in being there (I wish I had done that at least once )
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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
December 21 2012 23:14 GMT
#22
Flash won Bacchus, not Stork.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 21 2012 23:21 GMT
#23
On December 22 2012 08:14 rift wrote:
Flash won Bacchus, not Stork.


the bullocks did i write
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ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
December 21 2012 23:54 GMT
#24
Best's style of PvT was ridiculous, and his PvZ at the start of the 11-12 PL season made the commentators all just shocked. It was hilarious seeing them be all like, "I never thought I would see the day when player Doh Jae Wook would make a living off of PvZ..."

But yeah I mean, he personified the best of the simple "macro Protoss" into zeal-goon-arb PvT stomp. You think Jangbi was good? You think Stork was good? Strip them of their 4-8 templars + shuttle and they would get completely rolled by most of the decent TvPers. Not Best. His zealot/goon engagements were so.....asdfjkl;
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
December 22 2012 00:00 GMT
#25
There's an old replay of BesT[White] vs some Terran on Luna that was my guide to playing the match-up, it was just the best replay to show a very conservative, traditional style of PvT. 1 gate, expand, 2 more gates, expand, 3 more gates, 3 more gates. Perfect spread of dragoons to slow the inevitable siege tank / vulture / mine push that would come and then just at the last moment, where you had no more good defending areas to retreat to, you push with flanks, drag mines with zealots, and drop zealots from a shuttle.

Obviously this style of play wasn't the best versus every Terran, and as time went on this type of play became way too safe, it was the ultimate learning replay and I still have fond memories of it.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
December 22 2012 01:26 GMT
#26
He had possibly the most masculine playstyle out of all progamers.
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 22 2012 01:31 GMT
#27
On December 22 2012 10:26 phosphorylation wrote:
He had possibly the most masculine playstyle out of all progamers.


He is not more manly than reach you crazy man :3
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
December 22 2012 02:13 GMT
#28
They really should have fielded fantasy in that PL final. But Best was a great player, handsome devil, and seemed very emotional during and after all of his games. He was worth watching fo sho
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
December 22 2012 03:20 GMT
#29
I never really cared for Best and I'm not sure why, since he was a great player who was underrated by the people who pretended to be SKT fans but were actually Bisu fans. Somehow I had an image of Best as a boring player even though I enjoyed most of his games, it's bizarre.
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 22 2012 03:26 GMT
#30
On December 22 2012 12:20 Elyvilon wrote:
I never really cared for Best and I'm not sure why, since he was a great player who was underrated by the people who pretended to be SKT fans but were actually Bisu fans. Somehow I had an image of Best as a boring player even though I enjoyed most of his games, it's bizarre.


Methodical macro play is seen as boring because it's predictable, same can be said for flash's play.
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
December 22 2012 03:34 GMT
#31
On December 22 2012 10:31 Caihead wrote:
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On December 22 2012 10:26 phosphorylation wrote:
He had possibly the most masculine playstyle out of all progamers.


He is not more manly than reach you crazy man :3


As far as game style goes, hell no.

Reach was cheesy as hell. BeSt was just a macro monster who 1a2a3a'd his way in to your base and in to the hearts of his fans.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 22 2012 04:31 GMT
#32
I think I've watched July vs Best game 2 like 7 times.
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
December 22 2012 05:27 GMT
#33
On December 22 2012 09:00 Salv wrote:
There's an old replay of BesT[White] vs some Terran on Luna that was my guide to playing the match-up, it was just the best replay to show a very conservative, traditional style of PvT. 1 gate, expand, 2 more gates, expand, 3 more gates, 3 more gates. Perfect spread of dragoons to slow the inevitable siege tank / vulture / mine push that would come and then just at the last moment, where you had no more good defending areas to retreat to, you push with flanks, drag mines with zealots, and drop zealots from a shuttle.

Obviously this style of play wasn't the best versus every Terran, and as time went on this type of play became way too safe, it was the ultimate learning replay and I still have fond memories of it.

Hey can we get an upload of this fabled replay?
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L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 20:50:49
December 22 2012 20:50 GMT
#34
This series is great for someone like me who only started watching in 09/10. Great writeup! 5/5
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Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 06:44:28
December 23 2012 06:36 GMT
#35
Best is tied with Bisu for being my favorite player. The man is a mechanical monster and should definitely have his name echoed in the history books. His greedy macro machine PvT is just beautiful. If he gets rolling late game PvT, there is little that can stop him. Not only would he flood gateway units, but he would get as much as he could out of all of his units, they would rarely die in vain. His PvP was elegant and clean, and definitely admirable since he skipped reavers a great deal of the time. His PvZ was definitely the bane of his career, but in 2011-2012 it was actually rather good. I felt that should BW Pro League last another couple seasons, he would be as well rounded as Stork, Bisu, or Jangbi. It is definitely sad that he never won a title, as he sure deserved one. The man is a legend, I hope we can see the Macro Toss ravage terrans again in the future.

EDIT:

On December 22 2012 03:39 Necosarius wrote:
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I always liked Best more than Bisu. Maybe because I like the PvT matchup more than the PvZ.


I swear every Best/Bisu/Stork thread someone has to make me really jealous... You lucky dog.
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don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
December 23 2012 06:51 GMT
#36
Best's 0-3 loss to July in Ever OSL final is obviously the most known event in his career, but I wished you wrote about Best's humiliating loss to Stork in Incuit OSL.
4 gate all in on Medusa, 17 kill reaver on Return of the King, in base 2 gate on Plasma...
Despite losing game 1, Stork completely fried Best's brain there.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44124 Posts
December 24 2012 00:29 GMT
#37
Moved to general.
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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
December 24 2012 00:49 GMT
#38
As someone who was around to watch all the early legends I remember liking Best the most out of all the then new-gen progamers because he played a style reminiscent of the old ways and a LOT like Reach. Straight up man mode protoss.

His macro was fkn insane, I definitely remember that. I didn't even know he played Sc2 at all, but yea definitely an under-appreciated player. I think July really broke him mentally in their finals meeting and it stayed with him since.
LTY
Profile Joined November 2012
United States223 Posts
December 24 2012 01:12 GMT
#39
best..my favorite bw player along with Bisu..TT
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PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
December 24 2012 02:10 GMT
#40
This is what i call a thread ;] gj
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