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United States7639 Posts
On August 25 2012 04:25 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:Need more info. 1. Beating wife and acid thread - not proven 2. Animal abuse - how old and to what extent? it's quite normal for youngs boys. 3. Marrying to dodge army - so what if the wife knew about it and was ok with it? for a pacifist it is way worse to join an organization of sactioned killers 4. matchfixing - bad move and sucks, he got his punishment, no reason to hate forever 5. attemp to steal money from brothers bank account - pretty bad but seems to just be a rumour as well? Or maybe I just had enough bad news for this week 
Really? Do you know lots of pacifists who beat their wives? I mean, I could be wrong, but last time I checked, domestic violence is not exactly congruous with the pacifist ideals of non-violence.
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Animal abuse isn't normal for young boys. It's a tall tail sign of the person in question having a HUGE amount of personal issues.
Throw Luxary in jail for god sakes, this is unacceptable.
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On August 25 2012 04:32 Seraphic wrote:
Animal abuse isn't normal for young boys. It's a tall tail sign of the person in question having a HUGE amount of personal issues.
Throw Luxary in jail for god sakes, this is unacceptable.
I like how ironic this post is. Clearly throwing someone in jail is going to help them solve their personal issues. Maybe South Korean jail is somehow superior to other jails, but if I were a betting man I'd say it would make the issues worse.
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On August 25 2012 04:32 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:25 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:Need more info. 1. Beating wife and acid thread - not proven 2. Animal abuse - how old and to what extent? it's quite normal for youngs boys. 3. Marrying to dodge army - so what if the wife knew about it and was ok with it? for a pacifist it is way worse to join an organization of sactioned killers 4. matchfixing - bad move and sucks, he got his punishment, no reason to hate forever 5. attemp to steal money from brothers bank account - pretty bad but seems to just be a rumour as well? Or maybe I just had enough bad news for this week Really? Do you know lots of pacifists who beat their wives? I mean, I could be wrong, but last time I checked, domestic violence is not exactly congruous with the pacifist ideals of non-violence.
Well said Kiett!
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On August 25 2012 04:32 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:25 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:Need more info. 1. Beating wife and acid thread - not proven2. Animal abuse - how old and to what extent? it's quite normal for youngs boys. 3. Marrying to dodge army - so what if the wife knew about it and was ok with it? for a pacifist it is way worse to join an organization of sactioned killers 4. matchfixing - bad move and sucks, he got his punishment, no reason to hate forever 5. attemp to steal money from brothers bank account - pretty bad but seems to just be a rumour as well? Or maybe I just had enough bad news for this week Really? Do you know lots of pacifists who beat their wives? I mean, I could be wrong, but last time I checked, domestic violence is not exactly congruous with the pacifist ideals of non-violence. Bolded his argument. - beating wife not proven
So is it proven? I also wish to know what is his wife's condition, quote: "suffering a unique disorder", because it could be related to mental health too. Not to offend her or anything, it's just a detail that has to be investigated with such cases.
It's the easiest to jump on the most obvious conclusions.
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Germany1904 Posts
On August 25 2012 04:28 MCXD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:25 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
Animal abuse - how old and to what extent? it's quite normal for youngs boys. Whoa what, in which first world culture? And if it's to such an extent that it's particularly notable and criminal it's probably something a little more than making a dog run into a door for a laugh one afternoon.
Well maybe it is because I am village boy but here it is quite normal. Like plugging out a flys wings or burning ants with a magnifying glass. It is totally normal behaviour and learning process in a lot of young predatory animals or just plain curiousity imo. I know especially in america people seem to be afraid to talk honestly about this because some people think it is a sign of becomeing a psychopath or something.
On August 25 2012 04:32 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:25 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:Need more info. 1. Beating wife and acid thread - not proven 2. Animal abuse - how old and to what extent? it's quite normal for youngs boys. 3. Marrying to dodge army - so what if the wife knew about it and was ok with it? for a pacifist it is way worse to join an organization of sactioned killers 4. matchfixing - bad move and sucks, he got his punishment, no reason to hate forever 5. attemp to steal money from brothers bank account - pretty bad but seems to just be a rumour as well? Or maybe I just had enough bad news for this week Really? Do you know lots of pacifists who beat their wives? I mean, I could be wrong, but last time I checked, domestic violence is not exactly congruous with the pacifist ideals of non-violence.
It's not proven yet I thought that he beat her?
Relationship problems can be such a mess with lots of lies involved, especially if it started out as a marriage of convenience and then one part starts developing feelings.
I just hate these kind of news. Why do they publish these kinds of stories before the case is settled in court? There is a reason countries have a court system to find if someone really is guilty of the accusations against him.
All the people here judge him already, his image is forever ruined, his character destroyed, even thought he is not proven guilty yet.
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No idea if it's true, maybe it is. If it is, then that's a shame. If it's just some wife that's mad then that's just as bad. I guess we won't know the truth, but nowadays people are more likely to think it's possible given his bad past.
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United States23455 Posts
What a douchebag.
I always liked Yarnc of the two, anyway.
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MrHoon
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not wanting to get conscripted to the army has nothing to do with pacifism half the time in korea lol
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If the charges are true I don't mind all for throwing him under the bus. Right now though they're just charges, from a wife who has "unique" health problems, so we can't tell for sure how bad it really is. In any case Luxury might lawfully deserve jail, but it'll be the opposite of helping him get his life straightened out.
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Thanks to ShakAttaK. I updated the OP with the link to the wife's illness. I didn't know how to translate that to English lol.
The illness is not some mental disorder, it has to do with your muscle and inability to control your body the way you want to. We will have to wait until the investigation is finished.
On August 25 2012 04:31 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:10 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
Mr. Ma is Ma Jae Yoon or Maregi (Trash Ma) a.k.a. sAvior, the most dominant zerg in BW history.
He killed BW by being the center piece of matchfixing scandal, acted as a broker to many others.
I'm not comparing him to what Luxury has done, just that people shouldn't support any of the matchfixers. first of all u are not one to say whats the people need to support. everyone decided whats to do and whats support.
Ok, feel free to support a dick who completely ruined the game we love. If I were you, I wouldn't openly support these morons, which is basically what you are doing, but that's just my two cents.
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wow I didnt really expect
luxury to be this kind of a person ..
he seemed like a really nice guy...
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Thats fucked up. Hope she finds a better man for herself.
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Reading this makes me so angry. Some men are just sick.
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Germany1904 Posts
On August 25 2012 05:04 MrHoon wrote:
not wanting to get conscripted to the army has nothing to do with pacifism half the time in korea lol
I'm aware of that. What you are not aware of is which half he belongs to 
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On August 25 2012 05:11 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:Thanks to ShakAttaK. I updated the OP with the link to the wife's illness. I didn't know how to translate that to English lol. The illness is not some mental disorder, it has to do with your muscle and inability to control your body the way you want to. We will have to wait until the investigation is finished. Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:31 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On August 25 2012 04:10 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
Mr. Ma is Ma Jae Yoon or Maregi (Trash Ma) a.k.a. sAvior, the most dominant zerg in BW history.
He killed BW by being the center piece of matchfixing scandal, acted as a broker to many others.
I'm not comparing him to what Luxury has done, just that people shouldn't support any of the matchfixers. first of all u are not one to say whats the people need to support. everyone decided whats to do and whats support. Ok, feel free to support a dick who completely ruined the game we love. If I were you, I wouldn't openly support these morons, which is basically what you are doing, but that's just my two cents.
Please do not further derail this thread with sAviOr hatred, you have made your stance on the issue clear already. Thank you. Calling sAviOr a moron? What have you accomplished in Brood War? How many Starleagues and MSLs have you won, and when the maps were really bad for your race, to boot? Shit like this just makes my blood boil. >_<
I understand this is frustrating to you and you have every right to be upset but respect other people's opinions too ffs.
That said Luxury is a horrible person. He should see a therapist asap.
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The match-fixing has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he threats his wife like shit. Just because you have committed fraud and later on raped someone means that either has anything to do with each other.
On August 25 2012 04:32 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 04:25 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:Need more info. 1. Beating wife and acid thread - not proven 2. Animal abuse - how old and to what extent? it's quite normal for youngs boys. 3. Marrying to dodge army - so what if the wife knew about it and was ok with it? for a pacifist it is way worse to join an organization of sactioned killers 4. matchfixing - bad move and sucks, he got his punishment, no reason to hate forever 5. attemp to steal money from brothers bank account - pretty bad but seems to just be a rumour as well? Or maybe I just had enough bad news for this week Really? Do you know lots of pacifists who beat their wives? I mean, I could be wrong, but last time I checked, domestic violence is not exactly congruous with the pacifist ideals of non-violence.
If you had actually read the entire thing you would know that it is not proven that he beat his wife. But by all means continue the blind hate.
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What's so blind about hating a criminal who hasn't been found guilty yet of a subsequent crime? People don't get infinite chances in life. The guy's already on thin ice with the matchmaking scandal. He doesn't deserve another chance.
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On August 24 2012 22:57 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
I know lots of BW fans on TL still like sAvior and them. Please, ignoring them is the best of interest for the entire BW scene.
I don't even understand this thread and post, the op says to just ignore savior and all the matchfixers, in a thread he made already talking about them >.> then its just a bunch of people already calling somebody guilty before he even has the chance to defend himself based off prior actions.
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