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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-22 00:21:30
February 21 2017 23:22 GMT
#281
On February 22 2017 05:08 MuNi wrote:
None of this matters. The better game will outlast the weaker game. Survival of the fittest. BW FOREVER.

True. Darwinism always wins out in the end.

Which is why SC2 is kinda starting to fade (even despite LotV being released only about a year ago), and BW is resurgent. SC2 caught a big wave upon launch thanks to the Starcraft name (which SC1/BW established), and because of Blizzard's huge and single-minded commitment to it (which included temporarily killing off the BW Pro scene, sadly and counterproductively).

But in the end, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. The best game designs and best games will endure, and the "Good try, but..." games will fade, no matter how heavily they're promoted.

It's like movies... a big-budget, super-heavily-marketed summer blockbuster that is nonetheless not that great at its core will have the big opening weekend, but then fade away after that. It doesn't have 'legs', to use industry-speak.

But BW has legs. In spades.

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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
February 22 2017 02:35 GMT
#282
On February 21 2017 19:26 bartus88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2017 07:45 Hildegard wrote:
I don't get the need to bash SC2 constantly. Both BW and SC2 have unreachable skill-caps. Considering that it doesn't really matter if one is more demanding than the other. I enjoy and watch both games since years.

However I think BW balance is often looked at with rose-tinted glasses. In my opinion SC2 is better balanced than BW.

SC2 is undeniably better balanced, the BW community had to do the balancing by making maps that counter-acted the imbalances.

But that is not something most people here would like to hear, they can only focus on the negatives of SC2. The few pages of this thread are pretty sad to read. Both are amazing games, but this community is way too blinded by bitterness to have a decent discussion.

There's a good reason I went from reading this subforum daily to reading it once every 3 months, around the time this thread was made.


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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
February 22 2017 06:29 GMT
#283
On February 21 2017 07:45 Hildegard wrote:
In my opinion SC2 is better balanced than BW.


Well, it's okay to be wrong.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Jae Zedong
Profile Joined September 2016
407 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-22 09:16:34
February 22 2017 09:15 GMT
#284
The last thread I read about balance in the SC2 section was about a matchup that now has a measured winrate of 29-71%, lol. Good balance there buddy.

That is a catastrophical discrepance from a statistical point of view, I don't think most people even realize how lopsided that really is.
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-22 09:40:19
February 22 2017 09:36 GMT
#285
On February 22 2017 18:15 Jae Zedong wrote:
The last thread I read about balance in the SC2 section was about a matchup that now has a measured winrate of 29-71%, lol. Good balance there buddy.

That is a catastrophic discrepancy from a statistical point of view, I don't think most people even realize how lopsided that really is.

Basically that's like vanilla Starcraft prior to the 1.04 patch. It was that lopsided... Zerg win rates were about like that vs the other two races, according to ladder stats.

But Bliz largely fixed that with 1.04, i.e. less than 8 months after SC came out. What's SC2's excuse?
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9503 Posts
February 22 2017 10:46 GMT
#286
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