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On July 12 2012 06:01 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 19:58 ppshchik wrote:On July 11 2012 01:08 disciple wrote: damn, if jangbi wins the final he.... I dont know man, Bisu is still without a doubt the greatest and most accomplished protoss player ever but jangbi would have a solid claim for being #2... lol Bisu is so overrated, yes he's good looking, yes he's done some cool stuff, but he's no where near Stork's accomplishments in the long run. If Jangbi wins his 2nd OSL it would be Jangbi > Stork > Bisu Remind me how many more titles does Stork have over Bisu? How many more proleagues has Stork won? Is it Stork or Bisu who has the record for most wins in a proleague season? Remind me who has been a top contender since 2005 Remind me who used to have a win record vs the rest of taekbangleessang Remind me who has actually made a semi final 3 OSL's ago?
I favor stork but arguments can be made for both and I dont think we're fit to decide it, but no matter if Jangbi wins or looses he's gonna be up there with the greatest tosses
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On July 12 2012 06:35 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 06:01 setzer wrote:On July 11 2012 19:58 ppshchik wrote:On July 11 2012 01:08 disciple wrote: damn, if jangbi wins the final he.... I dont know man, Bisu is still without a doubt the greatest and most accomplished protoss player ever but jangbi would have a solid claim for being #2... lol Bisu is so overrated, yes he's good looking, yes he's done some cool stuff, but he's no where near Stork's accomplishments in the long run. If Jangbi wins his 2nd OSL it would be Jangbi > Stork > Bisu Remind me how many more titles does Stork have over Bisu? How many more proleagues has Stork won? Is it Stork or Bisu who has the record for most wins in a proleague season? Remind me who has been a top contender since 2005 Remind me who used to have a win record vs the rest of taekbangleessang Remind me who has actually made a semi final 3 OSL's ago? I favor stork but arguments can be made for both and I dont think we're fit to decide it, but no matter if Jangbi wins or looses he's gonna be up there with the greatest tosses
It depends on whether you're arguing on who is the most accomplished or who was the better player. Bisu was more accomplished but you can argue all day about who was the better player.
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While Bisu is probably the most accomplished protoss of all time, considering his team's acheivements on top of his personals, I'd say that JangBi is pretty definitively the best Protoss of 2011/2012.
Not sure if I'd put JangBi over Stork or not. 2 OSLs is a pretty strong case.
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On July 11 2012 23:41 ShadeR wrote: I don't think there is a greatest Protoss of all time. From Garimto, Nal_Ra, Stork, Bisu, Jangbi. Seems no one gets the crown of of this group.
looks like you forgot Reach and Anytime...
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On July 12 2012 06:43 ShiroKaisen wrote: While Bisu is probably the most accomplished protoss of all time, considering his team's acheivements on top of his personals, I'd say that JangBi is pretty definitively the best Protoss of 2011/2012.
Not sure if I'd put JangBi over Stork or not. 2 OSLs is a pretty strong case.
It wasn't Jangbi who was the ace of Khan for during his horrible slump in 2010/2011. Even Great was a better option for Khan when he was playing well and made the MSL finals. Even if he wins this OSL his extreme inconsistency in proleague lowers him below Stork and a few other great tosses.
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On July 12 2012 06:01 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 19:58 ppshchik wrote:On July 11 2012 01:08 disciple wrote: damn, if jangbi wins the final he.... I dont know man, Bisu is still without a doubt the greatest and most accomplished protoss player ever but jangbi would have a solid claim for being #2... lol Bisu is so overrated, yes he's good looking, yes he's done some cool stuff, but he's no where near Stork's accomplishments in the long run. If Jangbi wins his 2nd OSL it would be Jangbi > Stork > Bisu Remind me how many more titles does Stork have over Bisu? How many more proleagues has Stork won? Is it Stork or Bisu who has the record for most wins in a proleague season?
LOL stork could've won 2 OSLs, but he met JD and Flash in the finals, Bisu had 2 good years and that's it.
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On July 12 2012 08:01 empty.bottle wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 06:01 setzer wrote:On July 11 2012 19:58 ppshchik wrote:On July 11 2012 01:08 disciple wrote: damn, if jangbi wins the final he.... I dont know man, Bisu is still without a doubt the greatest and most accomplished protoss player ever but jangbi would have a solid claim for being #2... lol Bisu is so overrated, yes he's good looking, yes he's done some cool stuff, but he's no where near Stork's accomplishments in the long run. If Jangbi wins his 2nd OSL it would be Jangbi > Stork > Bisu Remind me how many more titles does Stork have over Bisu? How many more proleagues has Stork won? Is it Stork or Bisu who has the record for most wins in a proleague season? LOL stork could've won 2 OSLs, but he met JD and Flash in the finals, Bisu had 2 good years and that's it.
Bisu only had two good years and afterwards he didn't achieve anything besides the record for most PL individual wins and winning the PL (but only twice) with his team... Oh yeah, and Bisu only beat Savior, the protoss slayer, in the MSL finals...
There have been several great protoss players, but it's completely pointless to argue who was the best. Both Stork and Bisu certainly were at the very top.
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True passion. True hero. I'll never forget your glory Jangbi!
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jangbi should practice with the loser of the other final :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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On July 12 2012 10:02 Release wrote: jangbi should practice with the loser of the other final :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
It could backfire though. Fantasy and Flash have total polar opposite of TvP styles.
In comparison to ZvP. Its like practicing with ZerO to face against Shine.
Or practicing with Stork to face against Bisu.
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all this talk about stork vs bisu but nalra would be up there as well if only he did better in PL Finals =[. i remember him being like 9 straight ace wins or something in regular season
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On July 12 2012 06:35 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 06:01 setzer wrote:On July 11 2012 19:58 ppshchik wrote:On July 11 2012 01:08 disciple wrote: damn, if jangbi wins the final he.... I dont know man, Bisu is still without a doubt the greatest and most accomplished protoss player ever but jangbi would have a solid claim for being #2... lol Bisu is so overrated, yes he's good looking, yes he's done some cool stuff, but he's no where near Stork's accomplishments in the long run. If Jangbi wins his 2nd OSL it would be Jangbi > Stork > Bisu Remind me how many more titles does Stork have over Bisu? How many more proleagues has Stork won? Is it Stork or Bisu who has the record for most wins in a proleague season? I favor stork but arguments can be made for both and I dont think we're fit to decide it, but no matter if Jangbi wins or looses he's gonna be up there with the greatest tosses No one is fit to decide this. It's almost completely subjective because there's no universal scale for measuring the level of greatness of pro-gamer legacies. But of course we can all agree that using whatever meaningful form of measurement, Stork and Bisu are two of the greatest Protosses of all time.
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all this talk of best protoss... obviously it's Jangbi :D
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On July 12 2012 11:00 reincremate wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 06:35 Iplaythings wrote:On July 12 2012 06:01 setzer wrote:On July 11 2012 19:58 ppshchik wrote:On July 11 2012 01:08 disciple wrote: damn, if jangbi wins the final he.... I dont know man, Bisu is still without a doubt the greatest and most accomplished protoss player ever but jangbi would have a solid claim for being #2... lol Bisu is so overrated, yes he's good looking, yes he's done some cool stuff, but he's no where near Stork's accomplishments in the long run. If Jangbi wins his 2nd OSL it would be Jangbi > Stork > Bisu Remind me how many more titles does Stork have over Bisu? How many more proleagues has Stork won? Is it Stork or Bisu who has the record for most wins in a proleague season? I favor stork but arguments can be made for both and I dont think we're fit to decide it, but no matter if Jangbi wins or looses he's gonna be up there with the greatest tosses No one is fit to decide this. It's almost completely subjective because there's no universal scale for measuring the level of greatness of pro-gamer legacies. But of course we can all agree that using whatever meaningful form of measurement, Stork and Bisu are two of the greatest Protosses of all time.
If only Bisu would have won that Batoo OSL. He would have crowned as Bonjwa....fuck now I'm depressed all over again.
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cant have teak without bang and the jang is going to crash the party.
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If every progamer were as amazing as JangBi then esports would be so huge. <3
Edit: And just because OSL is more prestigious than MSL was, there isn't anything to say that Bisu's accomplishments are less than Stork's. For me it's Strok>JangBi>Bisu but it's all so moot and frankly, irrelevant
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This series was incredible. I'm so happy to see Jangbi advance. The finals is going to be epic.
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On July 12 2012 10:07 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 10:02 Release wrote: jangbi should practice with the loser of the other final :D:D:D:D:D:D:D It could backfire though. Fantasy and Flash have total polar opposite of TvP styles. In comparison to ZvP. Its like practicing with ZerO to face against Shine. Or practicing with Stork to face against Bisu. JB is auto-win vs Stork thats not practice thats slaughter :D
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Q: It's the final tournament played in Brood War. A: I'm really sad. It's like your girlfriend leaving you. I'm devastated to think that a game that I've loved so much is leaving me. Even if the tournaments fully switch to SC2 in the future, I'm planning to play Brood War at PC Bangs. Brood War was the best game. Playing SC2, I realize how difficult Brood War really was.
Well said mate!
May BW live forever!
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Jangbi I love you, because of the way you make me feel, because of your passion and your love for bw! You are the greatest player of all time for me! Jangbi fighting!
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