What's wrong with badland T_T I agree ice and ashworld are bad, but badland is just.. a jungle tittleset with another type of grass :S and asphalt roads that i particulary like =)

It's hard nowaday to make a map that people won't say hey it's azaela, gaema gowon, LT, nostalgia, CLONES !!

rel

Guam3521 Posts

December 21 2005 09:56 GMT

I don't see how a tileset is ugly, and what uglyness has to do with the outflow and balance of games, but this is probably the only trcc map I like. Good One.

mitsy

United States1792 Posts

December 21 2005 10:01 GMT

well trcc i think the best idea to make "original" maps is to take a conventional base but try to add features to the gameplay from forgotten maps/balances in a more acceptable form. for instance, LT has ridges, making many more builsd possible. but ppl hate the balance of it. every other map doesn't have that. so people bring it back in a more interesting form. i saw a map by bill i think that kind of had a cliff to the nat, but it was accessable by land, i think the main, but still a little far. or gaema had the ramp to the cliff and a nat on it. forgotten features, played on in a modified, more acceptable way.

another feature may be distance. maps these days are all kind of far distance compared to what used to be standard. the exception was requiem. there u have it, "originality" again by bringing back old features + slight modifications.

your map is original from what i can tell because, (after all balancing is done) u basically have a nostalgia on your hands with a gas nat but wider, more traditional path to the nat (instead of 2 bridges + ramp)

Empyrean

17069 Posts

December 21 2005 10:40 GMT

The grass looks like it's dying.

EvilTeletubby

Baltimore, USA22259 Posts

December 21 2005 10:42 GMT

Honestly this map doesn't seem that interesting... sorry.

To be fair though, I think it's very hard to make a good + interesting 4 player map to begin with, so...

mitsy

United States1792 Posts

December 21 2005 10:43 GMT

#10

the future is def. 2 and 3 player maps anyways...

greatmeh

Canada1964 Posts

December 21 2005 10:45 GMT

#11

nice map
who cares what tileset its on..... the grass looks perfectly healthy

Bill307

Canada9103 Posts

December 21 2005 11:03 GMT

#12

For a 4-player map, the design is very cool

. I can see some uses for those ramps. It reminds me of Nostalgia

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I think the centre might favour Terran, though.

trcc

Canada298 Posts

December 21 2005 11:09 GMT

#13

Yes, i've just obs a game tvz and T had middle secure really easy, so i removed 2 of the 3 walls in middle, plus widen the middle a little bit on the sides at some places. Rearranged the mineal & gas of all nat & main bases.

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download link if i wanna play on it:

http://www.panschk.de/mappage/(4)Memory Cell(n).scm

Keep the replay and upload it on www.broodwarmaps.net !

GTR

51619 Posts

December 21 2005 12:32 GMT

#14

maybe you should make the middle expo's with like 200+ more minerals on the patches so it catches the expanders attention.

KT.MGW)WisheS

United States15 Posts

December 21 2005 12:51 GMT

#15

it looks like rpoint mixed with nostalgia looks good tho

Freezer_au

Australia1461 Posts

December 21 2005 13:15 GMT

#16

looks like an awsome 2v2 map, downloading it yo!~

[7x]SpitFire

Russian Federation17 Posts

December 21 2005 14:03 GMT

#17

Teal's minonly is far from mains. Others are closer :O
Anyway, good job trcc! Gonna play some games on it.

nortydog

Australia3067 Posts

December 21 2005 15:05 GMT

#18

On December 21 2005 23:03 [7x]SpitFire wrote:
Teal's minonly is far from mains. Others are closer :O
Anyway, good job trcc! Gonna play some games on it.

was about to point this out, apart from that I really like it! also I really like the badlands terrain, reminds me of the shareware.

panschk[FP]

Germany148 Posts

December 21 2005 16:47 GMT

#19

lol, how can you compare that to gaema gowon or nostalgia? Nostalgias most typical aspect it the gasless nat, and GG`s is the ledge with the min only expansion. Azalea with ramp might be the best description, even though that's pretty off too. whatever^^

Of course it`s a good map (hey trcc made it^^), but I personally dont like it that much. Don`t know why exactly. maybe i just need to play it to like it more.

trcc

Canada298 Posts

December 21 2005 23:31 GMT

#20

Yea, I already pointed out the teal's min only problem, and i was already solving the problem yesterday, but felt asleep and went bed.. =o

Panschk, I just throw map names referring to Mitsy post. =P

HeavenS

Colombia2259 Posts

December 21 2005 23:37 GMT

#21

it reminds me a bit of Luna but w/o the bridge to the 2nd nat expo . I like this.

decafchicken

United States20166 Posts

December 22 2005 01:45 GMT

#22

Okay so we have references to SGG, Luna, Nostalgia, R-point.

ubergamer15

United States645 Posts

December 22 2005 03:03 GMT

#23

I love it. And yes on the ref. to Luna. Definate similarities.

trcc

Canada298 Posts

December 22 2005 03:08 GMT

#24

I fixed teal's mineral only.. and made more space on the left side of the middle.

gulii

Sweden2795 Posts

December 22 2005 07:08 GMT

#25

I like the cliffs, that rakes you to second natural. Nice map.
I sense short and intese games. Good work as always.

QuietIdiot

7004 Posts

December 22 2005 07:17 GMT

#26

PvZ will be the most interesting on this map. Expoes are far apart than alot of other maps and could u make the center a bit more unbuildable?

reminds me of a mini version of gaia genetically altered with nostalgia and azalea.

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