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[Winners Interview] KT Rolster vs Air Force ACE

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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 01:30:08
March 11 2012 00:39 GMT
#1
Victor: Air Force ACE

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Quick prayer for Canata who was ignored.


What Protoss could possibly maintain 100% victory rate against Flash? Bisu, Stork, Jangbi, Best, Kal, and free who are collectively referred to as Six Dragons all have head-to-head record which are either slightly more or less than half. (P)StarDust however remains as exception by having clean record of 2-0 against Flash. By holding back Flash on the critical point where KT could have solidified their position on the play-offs, (P)StarDust have drawn enough attention to become first in the search rankings.

Q: What is your thoughts about beating Flash?
(P)StarDust: I'm truly delighted for winning against the 'God'. I am very happy. I know I should keep my happiness reasonable considering he's the progamer like me, but it is just uncontrollable. That's how happy I am.

Q: I heard that you practiced a lot for the game against Flash.
(P)StarDust: Flash has a very excellent skill. I think Flash plays as if he could just win as long as it proceeds to the late-game no matter who his opponent is. There tends to be moment of weakness when one starts preparing for the late-game, and I exploited that opportunity.

Q: How did you prepare?
(P)StarDust: Flash is actually more easier to predict than other players. That might sound ironic but it's true. He have a pattern. I also believe it was due to the weakness in that pattern that Flash lost to Dear on his previous match against STX. If you prepare not to let your pride get wounded by those who swear about using 'cheese', I think it is perfectly possible to have a winning chance.

Q: Therefore you came up with the idea of building gateways on the middle.
(P)StarDust: The tactic was planned in advance. I thought after getting to four gateways by building three in the center, it was possible to win with the usage of reaver and shuttles. At the timing where Flash double expands to the front and back, there are only two factories present. There's a moment when there is only three tanks. I was aiming for that timing but it was delayed due to the bunker rush. Still I proceeded on confident I could break his defenses and that made me win the game.

Q: Did you only prepare for Flash?
(P)StarDust: It was possible that Zerg might have come out but I didn't believe that would happen with the situation KT was in. This series had to be won if they wanted to become 1st in the rank. Therefore Flash and Stats would be coming up first. The maps for the 2nd and 3rd match are somewhat unfavourable for Terran. So I was sure Flash would come out for the first match no matter what and correspondingly asked the coach to send me out.

Q: You really thought a lot about what moves KT would play.
(P)StarDust: It started to become clear after thinking about it a lot.

Q: You became first on the search rankings. It's been a first ever since you obtained the nickname of '100 minute protoss'.
(T/N: M18M became famous after climbing up to round of 16 in WCG Korean qualifiers. This was before he obtained his progamer license; he was considered amateur when he achieved this accomplishment.
The nickname '100 minute protoss' came from TV program called '100 minute discussion', hosted by professor Son Seok Hee who is also MBC news announcer. Name of StarDust is also Son Seok Hee.)

(P)StarDust: When I played against Sea on WCG Korean qualifiers I got first on the search ranking as '100 minute protoss', and did so once again when I beat Flash before. So including this I've been first on search rankings three times. I think I benefited a lot from sharing same name with famous personage. I am thankful to my parents.

Q: Air Force ACE also broke seven losing streak. Considering the objective of this season was play-offs aren't you bit disappointed?
(P)StarDust: At beginning of the season I (T/N: We?) wished for BO7, but because it became BO5 without Ace match planning for entries have become bit difficult. It felt strange, as if one of the teeth had come off. I also think we were pretty unlucky. We were perfectly capable of producing better results but I displayed inadequate performance as the senior and (Z)great struggled a bit as well.

Q: You will be finishing your mandatory military service during the next season.
(P)StarDust: I want to complete my service looking like a senior. I will win many times so that when people think of me they'll think 'that senior was truly important to the development of Air Force ACE'.

Q: Any last words.
(P)StarDust: This is something I never managed to say before. I love you, mom.

[Daily e-Sports Nam Yoon Sung journalist thenam@dailyesports.com]
Source - Daily e-sports

Air Force ACE winning! Also unintentionally 3k post, this must be fate.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
March 11 2012 00:41 GMT
#2
"I love you, mom."

WHY DID I SHED A TEAR
Jaedong plz
beatitudes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States167 Posts
March 11 2012 00:43 GMT
#3
gotta love the mom shoutout ^_^
<3
SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
March 11 2012 00:43 GMT
#4
Q: Any last words.
StarDust: This is something I never managed to say before. I love you, mom.

Beating Flash can bring out a lot of courage and belief it seems. Me like!
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
March 11 2012 00:51 GMT
#5
NOoooo where is Canata?
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
March 11 2012 00:54 GMT
#6
Sick sniping by M18M, predicting perfectly everything from the lineups to Flash's greedy builds.

Grats on having the only >1 game perfect record against God.
Writer:o
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 11 2012 01:07 GMT
#7
I salute thee sir. how BA is this guy to ask the coach to send him out to play flash?
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
March 11 2012 01:20 GMT
#8
thanks a lot for the translation

m18m <3
ace hwaiting!!
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
March 11 2012 01:24 GMT
#9
On March 11 2012 09:39 Hesmyrr wrote:
Q: Therefore you came up with the idea of building gateways on the middle.
(P)StarDust: The tactic was planned in advance. I thought after getting to four gateways by building three in the center, it was possible to win with the usage of reaver and shuttles. At the timing where Flash double expands to the front and back, there are only two factories present. There's a moment when there is only three tanks. I was aiming for that timing but it was delayed due to the bunker rush. Still I proceeded on confident I could break his defenses and that made me



Look at my post on youtube under "TheMShady". I saw flashes weakness and in detail described what it was, one day before M18M even played flash feel free to take a look at it.

Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 11 2012 01:45 GMT
#10
Shoutout to his mother, how nice.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 11 2012 01:49 GMT
#11
Aww mom love. That's so cute <3
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Kimoleon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States210 Posts
March 11 2012 01:50 GMT
#12
Thanks for the translation. He hit that timing window perfectly despite the 'strategic' move :>
Congrats on the 3k post ^^.
#nanashin #once | No Sana No Life | BW Forever ~
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
March 11 2012 02:22 GMT
#13
M18M you the shit!
KenNage
Profile Joined May 2009
Chile885 Posts
March 11 2012 02:44 GMT
#14
so happy for him, ace and khan hwaiting ! i hope than in the next season fbh comes back to khan :3~
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 11 2012 02:56 GMT
#15
On March 11 2012 11:44 KenNage wrote:
so happy for him, ace and khan hwaiting ! i hope than in the next season fbh comes back to khan :3~


Now I think of it, KHAN will be even more stacked next year. Their Terran line will be greatly boosted along with their already mighty Tosses. Their Zerg line will improve as well since FBH's Terran vs Zerg is no laughing matter. Looks like we are taking double gold this year.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
March 11 2012 02:56 GMT
#16
If Flash hadn't lost to Dear, he definitely would have lost to this guy anyway
Brood War loyalist
avaTar[
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Mexico301 Posts
March 11 2012 03:39 GMT
#17
Wow what a nice guy.
I have always thought about this guy as a loser but reading this interview i kind of opened my eyes to realize that he actually does a lot of work and planning.
GJ m18m you have gained a fan <3
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 04:22:45
March 11 2012 04:20 GMT
#18
Shoutout to his mom, baller protoss that beat flash, INSTANT FAN

Flash needs someone to ground him every now and again, I think the wins go to his head and he starts playing as if he were invincible. After seeing the shuttle/elevator he should've been playing more defensively. Letting that third cc get scouted was just hubris.
CosmicHippo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States547 Posts
March 11 2012 04:28 GMT
#19
hell yeah man, that game was fucking epic, this guy kicks ass!
Yeah i've got your zerg riiiight here! *gulps beer*
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
March 11 2012 04:30 GMT
#20
It was really smart!
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
March 11 2012 04:58 GMT
#21
Nice shoutout to mom, am I interpreting it wrong or by meaning that he wasn't able to "say before" mean that his mom passed away?
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
March 11 2012 05:03 GMT
#22
On March 11 2012 09:41 Ryusei-R1 wrote:
"I love you, mom."

WHY DID I SHED A TEAR


Mom > God
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
March 11 2012 05:50 GMT
#23
thnx.. great games.

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 11 2012 06:11 GMT
#24
Perfect excample why Starcraft is so good <3
Grats man well played snipe !
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3126 Posts
March 11 2012 06:19 GMT
#25
M18M...a relatively low-profile Protoss player has a fairly unremarkable career, goes to Ace, loses all season, and then beats an unstoppable-looking Flash.

This is what makes Starcraft great.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Selth
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States469 Posts
March 11 2012 07:15 GMT
#26
Was waiting for this interview. M18M totally earned it. Though that caption under the picture is deserving. Canata had to bring it home for ACE after they lost two games. Canata earned an interview too. Shame he didn't get one as well. But damn, looks like something clicked for M18M if he could figure out what was the weak points in Flash's play.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 11 2012 07:44 GMT
#27
100% godslayer

what a boss.
WriterXiao8~~
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1546 Posts
March 11 2012 22:38 GMT
#28
Thank you very much for translating.

Also his final words are hilarious. ACE hwaiting.
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
Finskie
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden412 Posts
March 12 2012 00:30 GMT
#29
what a boss
Violet.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 12 2012 01:16 GMT
#30
Now I almost regret throwing him on my anti-team every season... almost.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
March 12 2012 01:36 GMT
#31
That was some nice preparation. All this season I have wondered why nobody studied Flash closer and cheesed against him. Start by scouting for that proxy rax he does 50% of his games...
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
March 12 2012 03:45 GMT
#32
When i first say his opening against Best, i thought damn, this is arrogant.
But then it worked. And i thought, no one is ever going to beat Flash again (because he makes any build auto win).

And then Dear beat him in a game i think Flash lost himself.

And the M18M kicked Flash's ass!
☺
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