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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
November 18 2011 19:17 GMT
#41
On November 19 2011 04:01 soujiro_ wrote:
ace has a (Z)great team, cant see them doing bad this season


Honestly, I doubt that Great will be that much of a boost. I am much more interested in GGameo, Kal and FBH.
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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
November 18 2011 19:29 GMT
#42
The new maps are supposedly unfavorable for protoss, according to a recent interview with Bisu, Best, Movie, Horang2, Jangbi, and Stork (I couldn't find it but the thread is somewhere in BW General).

If there is some substance behind their argument underneath their bias, protoss-reliant teams SKT1 and Samsung Khan could end up further down the rankings. Obviously above ACE and STX, but still have trouble making the playoffs.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 20:01:42
November 18 2011 20:01 GMT
#43
On November 19 2011 04:29 domane wrote:
The new maps are supposedly unfavorable for protoss, according to a recent interview with Bisu, Best, Movie, Horang2, Jangbi, and Stork (I couldn't find it but the thread is somewhere in BW General).

If there is some substance behind their argument underneath their bias, protoss-reliant teams SKT1 and Samsung Khan could end up further down the rankings. Obviously above ACE and STX, but still have trouble making the playoffs.

Stats is also a key player on KT, albeit a bit invisible. Hoping it isn't true since I enjoy seeing a lot of Protoss games.
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Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
November 18 2011 20:22 GMT
#44
On November 19 2011 03:29 slappy wrote:
Flash/Stats/Action/Mind/CrazyHydra, The boss, with meh other players

I welcome your flame


Look, I even have KT as #5 in my prediction, but this is not right. It is the boss, the boss' backup, with meh other players. Stats was serious business last season. Flash had the #2 overall record, and I think Stats was around #5 or so. KT has the strongest 1-2 Punch in the league. After that... not so much. But with only 3 wins needed to take the match... they don't need much more than Flash and Stats. That's what makes this season so exciting, no one can really be underestimated too much.
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Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany833 Posts
November 18 2011 20:30 GMT
#45
I sure as hell hope that Ace will prove a lot of predictions wrong
FBH was great last season imo, and to me Ace always had this "hey, nobody expects too much, the players can get their mind free and overcome slumps easier" feel... (*) so I really think (and hope) that Kal will finally do good again

Not going to say they´ll win it all, for that other teams are way too stacked, but I think they´ll do a lot better than most would expect.



(*)Disclaimer : I pretend Canata didn´t happen. At all. Ever.

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I may or may not be a little bit biased though
"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
November 18 2011 20:32 GMT
#46
On November 18 2011 17:01 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 16:35 rplant wrote:
Why would mirror matchups disappear as the season goes on?

How serious are map imbalances on proleague maps?


Because as seasons go on, teams can use snipers to snipe partiular races, i.e. put Best or Stork on a T map, put Jaedong on a non-Z map, etc. But in the beginning, I think teams will just play it safe and put players on the maps they feel most confident in.

oh, how the times have changed....

imho the big 4 will be almost on the same level, aswell as the bottom 4, but i think there will be quite the discrepancy between the top and the bottom teams...

"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 18 2011 20:33 GMT
#47
1. STX
2-8. Nobody cares.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
November 18 2011 21:19 GMT
#48
Nov 26...... needs to come faster...... LIKE NOW!!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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