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WeMade Fox to disband August 31st - Page 22

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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13064 Posts
August 22 2011 10:05 GMT
#421
On August 22 2011 19:03 Telcontar wrote:
There are rumours that 2 more teams will close shop by the 31st of this month. Korean netizens are speculating them to be MBC and Samsung.

Their source: http://www.clubcity.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=86574


Oh god no....
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
DanCaek
Profile Joined July 2011
Lebanon71 Posts
August 22 2011 10:08 GMT
#422
Such a sad thing to happen :S.. WeMadeFox had so many food palyers too... I hope they can find a place to go to though
Anything unrelated to elephants
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
August 22 2011 10:11 GMT
#423
this is so sad why does life have to be so sad
im gay
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
August 22 2011 10:12 GMT
#424
On August 22 2011 18:39 Klaca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 18:20 Ribbon wrote:
On August 22 2011 18:06 backtoback wrote:
you guys do know that SC2 is disbanding as well, not just SC1... seriously TL posters are unbelievable !


They're just trolls. Ignore them.

On August 22 2011 18:14 DreamOen wrote:
Really sad news lately for the e-sports, blizzard and the rights of the SCII have to be guilty. They should release the SCII rights after the contract with GOMTV is over.


What? What do SC2 rights have to do with anything?

Look, the bottom line is Blizz-vision is being greedy ass and trying to harvest all the money they can from an already struggling enterprise like BW and SC2 proscene. Theyre certainly not making it any better.


Except that

A. Blizz lost that lawsuit, so it doesn't affect BW
B. WeMadeFOX is a team, not a tournament organizer, so they aren't affected by SC2 broadcast rights.

There were $166k in prize money in the last two weeks, not counting Korea, for SC2, so that scene seems to be okay. And while it's certainly possible that Blizz winning the suit would be bad for BW, they didn't, so it's water under the bridge.

And I'd hardly call BW "struggling" in an objective sense, seeing as they got 21% of males 16-19 watching the highest-rated TV show in the proleague finals. Maybe it's smaller than it was last year and having troubles as a result, but there's a bit of a step between that and a charity case.
twiitar
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany372 Posts
August 22 2011 10:14 GMT
#425
Does anybody know what this means for Thorzain and Fenix? Afaik Naniwa isn't staying at the WMF house..
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 10:16:59
August 22 2011 10:16 GMT
#426
On August 22 2011 18:27 RTudoRR wrote:
Well the sc2 team at least was a very weak and underachieving one so it's kinda understandable.


Actually it's the WC3/SC2 team. WC3 is worse off then the BW scene I think, so it's not surprising they started also playing SC2.
SolidGasPro
Profile Joined August 2011
93 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 10:24:14
August 22 2011 10:23 GMT
#427
On August 22 2011 19:16 lbmaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 18:27 RTudoRR wrote:
Well the sc2 team at least was a very weak and underachieving one so it's kinda understandable.


Actually it's the WC3/SC2 team. WC3 is worse off then the BW scene I think, so it's not surprising they started also playing SC2.


For outside Korea, WC3 should be better than BW at the moment. Actually, never was WC3 stronger than BW since its release outside Korea.

Similarly, WC3 was never stronger than BW inside Korea.
"HuK doesn't use Penix." MC
ellerina
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines452 Posts
August 22 2011 10:24 GMT
#428
On August 22 2011 19:03 Telcontar wrote:
There are rumours that 2 more teams will close shop by the 31st of this month. Korean netizens are speculating them to be MBC and Samsung.

Their source for anyone who can read korean: http://www.clubcity.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=86574


Wow- the dissolution of WeMade has been rumored for months and MBC is understandable given the uncertainty of the TV Station, but even Samsung?! Did the netizens hear/speculate about this before or did the news just come out recently?
Still round the corner there may wait , A new road or a secret gate /And though I oft have passed them by, A day will come at last when I /Shall take the hidden paths that run/West of the Moon, East of the Sun
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 22 2011 10:26 GMT
#429
On August 22 2011 19:24 ellerina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 19:03 Telcontar wrote:
There are rumours that 2 more teams will close shop by the 31st of this month. Korean netizens are speculating them to be MBC and Samsung.

Their source for anyone who can read korean: http://www.clubcity.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=86574


Wow- the dissolution of WeMade has been rumored for months and MBC is understandable given the uncertainty of the TV Station, but even Samsung?! Did the netizens hear/speculate about this before or did the news just come out recently?

Yeah, there were some rumours that Samsung was thinking about disbanding before Fox announced their decision, and this article coming out. I'm not sure how accurate and reliable it is though. You know what internet rumours are like.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 22 2011 10:28 GMT
#430
On August 22 2011 19:26 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 19:24 ellerina wrote:
On August 22 2011 19:03 Telcontar wrote:
There are rumours that 2 more teams will close shop by the 31st of this month. Korean netizens are speculating them to be MBC and Samsung.

Their source for anyone who can read korean: http://www.clubcity.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=86574


Wow- the dissolution of WeMade has been rumored for months and MBC is understandable given the uncertainty of the TV Station, but even Samsung?! Did the netizens hear/speculate about this before or did the news just come out recently?

Yeah, there were some rumours that Samsung was thinking about disbanding before Fox announced their decision, and this article coming out. I'm not sure how accurate and reliable it is though. You know what internet rumours are like.

Netizens are just guessing. The only teams not involved in such rumors are the two telecoms.
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Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
August 22 2011 10:29 GMT
#431
On August 22 2011 19:26 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 19:24 ellerina wrote:
On August 22 2011 19:03 Telcontar wrote:
There are rumours that 2 more teams will close shop by the 31st of this month. Korean netizens are speculating them to be MBC and Samsung.

Their source for anyone who can read korean: http://www.clubcity.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=86574


Wow- the dissolution of WeMade has been rumored for months and MBC is understandable given the uncertainty of the TV Station, but even Samsung?! Did the netizens hear/speculate about this before or did the news just come out recently?

Yeah, there were some rumours that Samsung was thinking about disbanding before Fox announced their decision, and this article coming out. I'm not sure how accurate and reliable it is though. You know what internet rumours are like.


Where there's smoke...
LuckyGnomTV
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Russian Federation367 Posts
August 22 2011 10:30 GMT
#432
On August 22 2011 11:17 Nontrivial wrote:
Is this just BW or SC2 as well?


SC2 and WC3 already disbanded
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
August 22 2011 10:35 GMT
#433
Man I can't believe I came home to see Fox disbanding.....
On August 22 2011 19:03 Telcontar wrote:
There are rumours that 2 more teams will close shop by the 31st of this month. Korean netizens are speculating them to be MBC and Samsung.

Their source for anyone who can read korean: http://www.clubcity.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=86574

and even this

I believe more teams will disband in the future but BW will miraculously rise again before everything is too late.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Earawen
Profile Joined February 2011
France51 Posts
August 22 2011 10:38 GMT
#434
nooooooooo that sucks :'(
pksens
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom156 Posts
August 22 2011 10:38 GMT
#435
So, sad as it is, what are the genuine reasons at play here? They don't see a decent enough of a return of investment anymore with a BW team, or a team like WeMadeFox?
But I wonder, even though SC2 exists now, I don't see how the bw scene has changed that much for the investments to be worth less? Surely this is an isolated problem for the company of WeMade Fox such that speculation on other companies is pointless; if the speculation proves true then we have to assume the BW scene has diminished to a point that it costs too much to run a team to be worth it and surely is the end of all things.
Finskie
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden412 Posts
August 22 2011 10:43 GMT
#436
booo poor midas, hope they manage to find a new sponsor
Violet.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 22 2011 10:51 GMT
#437
On August 22 2011 19:38 pksens wrote:
So, sad as it is, what are the genuine reasons at play here? They don't see a decent enough of a return of investment anymore with a BW team, or a team like WeMadeFox?
But I wonder, even though SC2 exists now, I don't see how the bw scene has changed that much for the investments to be worth less? Surely this is an isolated problem for the company of WeMade Fox such that speculation on other companies is pointless; if the speculation proves true then we have to assume the BW scene has diminished to a point that it costs too much to run a team to be worth it and surely is the end of all things.

After 4-5 years of running a team, companies pulling sponsorship is not unexpected, especially if their new CEOs have little interest in esports, as is the case with Wemade and MBC. The true test will be whether Kespa can find new sponsors for either of these teams. If they can't, then you can probably say that esports (not just BW because it isn't just BW being affected here) in Korea is struggling.
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 22 2011 10:57 GMT
#438
sad news, hope kespa finds some sponsor for the team, else pro league etc will be so small =(
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 22 2011 10:59 GMT
#439
well the sc2 team "just" had 3 players, i hope F.United can finish it and then next season foreign team with sjow etc and moon and lyn find new team

harsh to say but with moon and lyn play wc3 again their sc2 skill is really bad atm and soccer never was good
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Pippah
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark356 Posts
August 22 2011 11:00 GMT
#440
Terrible
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