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Keep any SC2 vs BW comments out of this thread. This is a thread about Brood War and Esports (Tekken Crash, Special Forces, etc) in general. If you discuss what this means for ESPORTS be sensitive about it.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 27 2011 10:26 GMT
#1701
Nah, nothing we don't already know. MBCplus is planning on launching a music channel to replace MBCGame come 2012. Which is what we're known all along. They're in the preparation phase. Doesn't say anything about KCC approval. Maybe they'll get the final approval, I don't know. Just wait and see. Kespa need to move MSL to another channel.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
August 27 2011 10:32 GMT
#1702
On August 27 2011 19:26 Ryo wrote:
Nah, nothing we don't already know. MBCplus is planning on launching a music channel to replace MBCGame come 2012. Which is what we're known all along. They're in the preparation phase. Doesn't say anything about KCC approval. Maybe they'll get the final approval, I don't know. Just wait and see. Kespa need to move MSL to another channel.


and proleague.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 27 2011 10:38 GMT
#1703
On August 27 2011 19:32 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 19:26 Ryo wrote:
Nah, nothing we don't already know. MBCplus is planning on launching a music channel to replace MBCGame come 2012. Which is what we're known all along. They're in the preparation phase. Doesn't say anything about KCC approval. Maybe they'll get the final approval, I don't know. Just wait and see. Kespa need to move MSL to another channel.


and proleague.

Yeah, just wait and see. It's not that I'm incredibly optimistic but being negative doesn't really achieve anything. It's August, the month of terrible news for BW.

I hope Kespa is working overtime on this because SF PL, Tekken etc can't all be broadcasted on OGN.
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
August 27 2011 10:47 GMT
#1704
Thats so sad

So far there havent been a rumor in BW that doesnt come true as far as i remember which means we gonna have 3 teams disbanding soon. Wemade and MBC + one unconfirmed .
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
August 27 2011 10:47 GMT
#1705
On August 27 2011 19:38 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 19:32 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On August 27 2011 19:26 Ryo wrote:
Nah, nothing we don't already know. MBCplus is planning on launching a music channel to replace MBCGame come 2012. Which is what we're known all along. They're in the preparation phase. Doesn't say anything about KCC approval. Maybe they'll get the final approval, I don't know. Just wait and see. Kespa need to move MSL to another channel.


and proleague.

Yeah, just wait and see. It's not that I'm incredibly optimistic but being negative doesn't really achieve anything. It's August, the month of terrible news for BW.

I hope Kespa is working overtime on this because SF PL, Tekken etc can't all be broadcasted on OGN.


exactly,I know for sure they had no intention of outright killing everything off.MBC Game may go but will MSL and PL disappear is something I'm pretty sure won't happen.

also even though it says 2012 I'm sure they won't stop it half way through the PL season right?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 27 2011 12:00 GMT
#1706
On August 27 2011 19:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 19:38 Ryo wrote:
On August 27 2011 19:32 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On August 27 2011 19:26 Ryo wrote:
Nah, nothing we don't already know. MBCplus is planning on launching a music channel to replace MBCGame come 2012. Which is what we're known all along. They're in the preparation phase. Doesn't say anything about KCC approval. Maybe they'll get the final approval, I don't know. Just wait and see. Kespa need to move MSL to another channel.


and proleague.

Yeah, just wait and see. It's not that I'm incredibly optimistic but being negative doesn't really achieve anything. It's August, the month of terrible news for BW.

I hope Kespa is working overtime on this because SF PL, Tekken etc can't all be broadcasted on OGN.


exactly,I know for sure they had no intention of outright killing everything off.MBC Game may go but will MSL and PL disappear is something I'm pretty sure won't happen.

also even though it says 2012 I'm sure they won't stop it half way through the PL season right?

Maybe OGN will broadcast all PL games, maybe they will delay the start of PL, who knows. They have a habit of announcing things at the last minute (and this applies to a lot of other Korean channels too, not just game channels). I hope they can find an adequate solution.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 27 2011 12:01 GMT
#1707
On August 27 2011 19:47 SkelA wrote:
Thats so sad

So far there havent been a rumor in BW that doesnt come true as far as i remember which means we gonna have 3 teams disbanding soon. Wemade and MBC + one unconfirmed .

Disbanding doesn't mean no new sponsor. Hanbit disbanded and then Woongjin stepped in.
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ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1699 Posts
August 27 2011 12:43 GMT
#1708
Well, I'm starting to trust the rumour mill to a worrying extent, and also to imagine the worst because that's usually the correct case. Goddamn Kpop. It's just such mindless shit music too...
EleGant[AoV]
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
August 27 2011 12:50 GMT
#1709
I really wonder how kespa, wemade, and MBC have been going about with trying to find sponsors. They really need to focus on big, financially well-off corporations that have interest in consumers and/or young people.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 27 2011 12:54 GMT
#1710
On August 27 2011 21:50 white_horse wrote:
I really wonder how kespa, wemade, and MBC have been going about with trying to find sponsors. They really need to focus on big, financially well-off corporations that have interest in consumers and/or young people.

Rumour is that Jinair is in negotiations. But it's just a rumour I found by googling certain key words. No real evidence.
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
August 27 2011 13:07 GMT
#1711
OGN should move some other games to their website in order to make room for STARCRAFT, THE KING OF ESPORTS, BITCHES.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Klaca
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
318 Posts
August 27 2011 13:19 GMT
#1712
Ehh the music shows and shit is just a fad... Just like all such things, once the craze for these reality shows and stuff dies down, MBC will be crawling back to BW, for lasting quality entertainment.
two.watup
Profile Joined March 2011
United States371 Posts
August 27 2011 13:36 GMT
#1713
On August 27 2011 22:19 Klaca wrote:
Ehh the music shows and shit is just a fad... Just like all such things, once the craze for these reality shows and stuff dies down, MBC will be crawling back to BW, for lasting quality entertainment.

I think MBC thinks BW was a fad. Look at all the teams falling out, it's only a matter of time.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 13:43:27
August 27 2011 13:39 GMT
#1714
On August 27 2011 22:36 two.watup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 22:19 Klaca wrote:
Ehh the music shows and shit is just a fad... Just like all such things, once the craze for these reality shows and stuff dies down, MBC will be crawling back to BW, for lasting quality entertainment.

I think MBC thinks BW was a fad. Look at all the teams falling out, it's only a matter of time.

Er no. They don't think BW is a fad, if not they would not have invested 10 years in this channel. The CEO who took over MBCplus last year wants to latch onto the kpop wave, it's cheaper to convert an existing channel rather than starting a new channel so unfortunately MBCGame, with its niche market, is facing the axe.

And btw, it's not just about BW. MBCGame broadcasts other games/leagues as well.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 13:44:54
August 27 2011 13:43 GMT
#1715
On August 27 2011 22:36 two.watup wrote:
I think MBC thinks BW was a fad. Look at all the teams falling out, it's only a matter of time.


Take this nonsense elsewhere please. It doesn't belong.

On August 27 2011 19:38 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 19:32 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On August 27 2011 19:26 Ryo wrote:
Nah, nothing we don't already know. MBCplus is planning on launching a music channel to replace MBCGame come 2012. Which is what we're known all along. They're in the preparation phase. Doesn't say anything about KCC approval. Maybe they'll get the final approval, I don't know. Just wait and see. Kespa need to move MSL to another channel.


and proleague.

Yeah, just wait and see. It's not that I'm incredibly optimistic but being negative doesn't really achieve anything. It's August, the month of terrible news for BW.

I hope Kespa is working overtime on this because SF PL, Tekken etc can't all be broadcasted on OGN.


They have so much shit on their hands it's ridiculous. Yeah, instead of thinking the worst is going to happen how about we try to do stuff that is positive. For example, see my signature. ._.

First ever time I plugged myself <<shrug>>
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
August 27 2011 13:52 GMT
#1716
On August 27 2011 21:54 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 21:50 white_horse wrote:
I really wonder how kespa, wemade, and MBC have been going about with trying to find sponsors. They really need to focus on big, financially well-off corporations that have interest in consumers and/or young people.

Rumour is that Jinair is in negotiations. But it's just a rumour I found by googling certain key words. No real evidence.


That would be nice if it happened. I wonder if any of them had approached Korean Air or Shinhan Bank about all this. Or even Hite. They are familiar with the BW scene and have been supporting Korean BW for a long time. If kespa made an offer or tradeoff (say, lowering sponsorship costs in exchange for running a small team) that could work. Shinhan Hero or Jinair Soul sounds hopeful. But that is only my personal speculation, it must obviously be a lot harder in real life..
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agarangu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile274 Posts
August 27 2011 13:54 GMT
#1717
This really sucks. Changing from BW to kpop is just terrible.

Anyway, let's hope this helps OGN, so they don't switch too.
What's a quote anyway?
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
August 27 2011 14:04 GMT
#1718
JinAir Hero gogo!!!
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Klaca
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
318 Posts
August 27 2011 16:02 GMT
#1719
On August 27 2011 23:04 _Quasar_ wrote:
JinAir Hero gogo!!!

Yeah but.. whos gonna pay for OSL then? We cant brush all the costs onto Shinhan and Korean Air.


And this describes the deeper problem - that Shinhan and Korean Air are both State owned/subsidized companies, so their sponsorship does not reflect actual private demand for sponsoring BW scene. In effect - the existance of such state entities prevents the production of the esports from being bid according to the demand schedules of private market participants, which would reflect the actual real world situation.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 16:11:30
August 27 2011 16:09 GMT
#1720
On August 28 2011 01:02 Klaca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 23:04 _Quasar_ wrote:
JinAir Hero gogo!!!

Yeah but.. whos gonna pay for OSL then? We cant brush all the costs onto Shinhan and Korean Air.


And this describes the deeper problem - that Shinhan and Korean Air are both State owned/subsidized companies, so their sponsorship does not reflect actual private demand for sponsoring BW scene. In effect - the existance of such state entities prevents the production of the esports from being bid according to the demand schedules of private market participants, which would reflect the actual real world situation.

Korean Air is a subsidiary of the Hanjin Group, not the Korean government.

I don't see what the problem is for Jinair to own a team and sponsor 1 tournament at the same time.

Edit:
Since when was Shinhan Financial Group state owned?
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