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STX Puts up their entire player roster for trade - Page 9

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guoguo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States121 Posts
July 20 2011 03:42 GMT
#161
This could be a pretty exciting development for STX. I could see the "Airforce Ace" effect happening to their team.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 03:45:25
July 20 2011 03:43 GMT
#162
On July 20 2011 12:38 ZeroChrome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 12:33 BlackMagister wrote:
Hmmm so does trading only mean exchanging a player for another player not selling players off? I assume contracts and payment might change, but I don't remember any actual trades taking place, people just moved to another team there was never an exchange of players so it seems to me they actually mean sell.


That's why the article says that it could be something totally new for e-sports. The article makes it pretty clear that players are going to be traded and not just sold.

Ah yes didn't read carefully enough. Player for player trades should be difficult though since it requires another person to want to leave to work. Can't see into the team environment so wouldn't understand why a player would want to trade. There was speculation about ForGG wanting to leave because of problems with the coach, but that was just rumors. Luxury leaving Sparkyz made sense to distance himself from his twin Yarnc. Light leaving MBC made no sense especially given the way Sea talked about how important Light was for training.

So I'm not sure why a player would want to join STX given their middling run in PL expect not getting along with teammates.
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
July 20 2011 03:44 GMT
#163
Oz should pick up one of Kal, Calm, Bogus...please.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
July 20 2011 03:45 GMT
#164
Calm for Jaedong
Bogus for Flash
Kal for Bisu

And i might just become STX fan :3

On a more serious note.. Looking forward to seeing the kind of trades that (hopefully) will be made
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 20 2011 03:45 GMT
#165
Liquid'Calm
Liquid'Kal
Liquid'Bogus
Liquid'Shuttle

Now all we need are some korean sc2 coaches
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 20 2011 03:45 GMT
#166
On July 20 2011 12:40 Djabanete wrote:
Idiotic move by STX. Their players are fine. What STX needs is a change of atmosphere.

SKT has a high-achieving atmosphere, great coaching, and 3 pillars to rely on.
KT overflows with confidence because they're all inspired by Flash. When he went god mode, KT went god mode.
CJ has a culture of fearless rookies and discipline with camaraderie, and some amazing coaches to make the players shine.

STX has a continually depressed coach/manager dude, embarrassing uniforms, and a lot of fried chicken --- and now they're sending the message out to all their players, "YOU'RE DISPENSABLE." Great morale booster.

What STX actually needs is some wicked new badass uniforms, a new coach/manager dude who inspires the players instead of depressing them, a vacation, and then about 6 months of rookie development in proleague.

I feel sorry for any progamer who gets traded to STX in the shape they're in. And I feel sorry for any progamer who gets traded away from STX, because that tells them the message that THEY were responsible for STX sucking and that STX was better off without them. All in all this is just a rotten deal.

Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 12:35 b0lt wrote:
On July 20 2011 12:33 LurkersGonnaLurk wrote:
Morale will surely be shattered for the ones that remain and get their contract renewed.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Basically, this.

your right, but stx have tried and failed to fix the team atmosphere.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
July 20 2011 03:45 GMT
#167
On July 20 2011 12:40 Djabanete wrote:

CJ has a culture of fearless rookies and discipline with camaraderie, and some amazing coaches to make the players shine.


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(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
July 20 2011 03:45 GMT
#168
Nice time to trade considering Kal has virtually no value since he has been playing so poorly.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 20 2011 03:46 GMT
#169
On July 20 2011 12:43 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 12:38 ZeroChrome wrote:
On July 20 2011 12:33 BlackMagister wrote:
Hmmm so does trading only mean exchanging a player for another player not selling players off? I assume contracts and payment might change, but I don't remember any actual trades taking place, people just moved to another team there was never an exchange of players so it seems to me they actually mean sell.


That's why the article says that it could be something totally new for e-sports. The article makes it pretty clear that players are going to be traded and not just sold.

Ah yes didn't read carefully enough. Player for player trades should be difficult though since it requires another person to want to leave to work. Can't see into the team environment so wouldn't understand why a player would want to trade. There was speculation about ForGG wanting to leave because of problems with the coach, but that was just rumors. Luxury leaving Sparkyz made sense to distance himself from his twin Yarnc. Light leaving MBC made no sense especially given the way Sea talked about how important Light was for training.

So I'm not sure why a player would want to join STX given their middling run in PL expect not getting along with teammates.

I don't think players get a say in this, if management strikes a deal the players will move won't they?
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Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
July 20 2011 03:46 GMT
#170
Man if Wemade can get someone like Kal it might be interesting. They'd have a, if in-form, solid Protoss to anchor the P line.

One can dream I guess. But don't really know who Wemade may give up for that...maybe one of their Terran players. :S
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
July 20 2011 03:47 GMT
#171
On July 20 2011 12:43 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 12:38 ZeroChrome wrote:
On July 20 2011 12:33 BlackMagister wrote:
Hmmm so does trading only mean exchanging a player for another player not selling players off? I assume contracts and payment might change, but I don't remember any actual trades taking place, people just moved to another team there was never an exchange of players so it seems to me they actually mean sell.


That's why the article says that it could be something totally new for e-sports. The article makes it pretty clear that players are going to be traded and not just sold.

Ah yes didn't read carefully enough. Player for player trades should be difficult though since it requires another person to want to leave to work. Can't see into the team environment so wouldn't understand why a player would want to trade. There was speculation about ForGG wanting to leave because of problems with the coach, but that was just rumors. Luxury leaving Sparkyz made sense to distance himself from his twin Yarnc. Light leaving MBC made no sense especially given the way Sea talked about how important Light was for training.

Light to Stars is very easy to understand. MBC needed money. There's a reason why they are able to keep the MSL going even without a sponsor yet.

The STX management has been responsible for some surprising decisions in the past but this one is quite shocking.
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Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
July 20 2011 03:48 GMT
#172
On July 20 2011 12:40 Djabanete wrote:
Idiotic move by STX. Their players are fine. What STX needs is a change of atmosphere.

SKT has a high-achieving atmosphere, great coaching, and 3 pillars to rely on.
KT overflows with confidence because they're all inspired by Flash. When he went god mode, KT went god mode.
CJ has a culture of fearless rookies and discipline with camaraderie, and some amazing coaches to make the players shine.

STX has a continually depressed coach/manager dude, embarrassing uniforms, and a lot of fried chicken --- and now they're sending the message out to all their players, "YOU'RE DISPENSABLE." Great morale booster.

What STX actually needs is some wicked new badass uniforms, a new coach/manager dude who inspires the players instead of depressing them, a vacation, and then about 6 months of rookie development in proleague.

I feel sorry for any progamer who gets traded to STX in the shape they're in. And I feel sorry for any progamer who gets traded away from STX, because that tells them the message that THEY were responsible for STX sucking and that STX was better off without them. All in all this is just a rotten deal.

Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 12:35 b0lt wrote:
On July 20 2011 12:33 LurkersGonnaLurk wrote:
Morale will surely be shattered for the ones that remain and get their contract renewed.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Basically, this.

Really well put.
@YorkeSC - RIP MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, BW fan
TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
July 20 2011 03:49 GMT
#173
I would love to see Kal get to mingle with the likes of SKTosses or CJ Tosses. He'd get some much needed coaching and re-training and bring back into full blown Bro-Toss mode.

Calm should go to Oz or get swapped to KT. He is a very good player, he just needs the right place.

Shuttle...man...I could see him going where Kal goes and the two of them eventually fronting a great Protoss lineup for a team. Maybe Woongin can pick him up.

Bogus has been on fire this season and getting rid of him is borderline crazy. In fact, this whole news seems crazy to me.

All in all, this shit's insane.
The mystery of life is not a problem to solve, but a reality to experience. **Hang in there STX fans!! Kal Hwaiting!**
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49986 Posts
July 20 2011 03:49 GMT
#174
On July 20 2011 12:45 Chairman Ray wrote:
Liquid'Calm
Liquid'Kal
Liquid'Bogus
Liquid'Shuttle

Now all we need are some korean sc2 coaches


lol chairman.
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meep
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1699 Posts
July 20 2011 03:50 GMT
#175
Wow, definitely following this. This might be huge.
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Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
July 20 2011 03:51 GMT
#176
I want toss girl lol
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bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
July 20 2011 03:51 GMT
#177
HOLY FUCK. wow, just wow.
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
July 20 2011 03:53 GMT
#178
On July 20 2011 12:45 Chairman Ray wrote:
Liquid'Calm
Liquid'Kal
Liquid'Bogus
Liquid'Shuttle

Now all we need are some korean sc2 coaches

liquid kal... maaaan... i love goojila, but it would be... worst...name....EVER

pretty sick news obviously
No carpal tunnel no skill
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
July 20 2011 03:54 GMT
#179
This is a cool aggressive move, and I honestly think its a good one. Losing bogus will hurt them pretty bad tho. Jangbi, Best, Sea (since MBC game has no desire to keep any particular player), Soulkey, and Hiya are all good candidates for Bogus. Though if STX gets a sick trade for Bogus, it might not pay off because players tend to suck pretty hard for the first half a year they are on a new team.

Kal and Calm will probly go for real cheap. I don't know about Calm, but Kal is an awesome player.
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
July 20 2011 03:55 GMT
#180
This is sad...

Less so considering I haven't been following bw for the last year, but still.
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