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Let's see where the TL BW crowd stands  :
Quick info shamelessly taken from ZeaL:
On July 05 2011 23:47 ZeaL. wrote:
Could be wrong but it should be 3 days of Bo7's at every stage, except for the final which is 1 Bo7. Format is like this:
3rd Seed (KT) vs 6th Seed (STX)
4th Seed (WJN) vs 5th Seed (KHAN)
Winner of 3/6 vs Winner of 4/5
Winner of previous match vs 2nd Seed (CJ)
Winner of previous match vs 1st Seed (SKT1)
Edit: Ty mustaju for catching my error.
Poll: KT vs STX, which team are you rooting for?KT! (93) 66% STX! (48) 34% 141 total votes Your vote: KT vs STX, which team are you rooting for? (Vote): KT!
(Vote): STX!
Poll: KT vs STX, which team do you think will win?KT! (102) 78% STX! (29) 22% 131 total votes Your vote: KT vs STX, which team do you think will win? (Vote): KT!
(Vote): STX!
Poll: Woongjin vs Khan, which team are you rooting for?Khan! (77) 53% Woongjin! (69) 47% 146 total votes Your vote: Woongjin vs Khan, which team are you rooting for? (Vote): Woongjin!
(Vote): Khan!
Poll: Woongjin vs Khan, which team do you think will win?Woongjin! (88) 64% Khan! (50) 36% 138 total votes Your vote: Woongjin vs Khan, which team do you think will win? (Vote): Woongjin!
(Vote): Khan!
Poll: Who will emerge victorious to face CJ in the semis?Woongjin! (54) 38% KT! (46) 33% Khan! (36) 26% STX! (5) 4% 141 total votes Your vote: Who will emerge victorious to face CJ in the semis? (Vote): KT!
(Vote): STX!
(Vote): Woongjin!
(Vote): Khan!
Poll: Who will emerge victorious from the semis to face SKT?CJ! (98) 66% KT! (23) 16% Khan! (16) 11% Woongjin! (10) 7% STX! (1) 1% 148 total votes Your vote: Who will emerge victorious from the semis to face SKT? (Vote): KT!
(Vote): STX!
(Vote): Woongjin!
(Vote): Khan!
(Vote): CJ!
Poll: Grand finals winner?SKT! (85) 47% CJ! (52) 29% KT! (21) 12% Khan! (12) 7% STX! (5) 3% Woongjin! (4) 2% 179 total votes Your vote: Grand finals winner? (Vote): KT!
(Vote): STX!
(Vote): Woongjin!
(Vote): Khan!
(Vote): CJ!
(Vote): SKT!
Poll: How many rounds of Winner Leagues should be in next season?1 (78) 49% 2 (61) 38% 3 + (17) 11% 0 (4) 3% 160 total votes Your vote: How many rounds of Winner Leagues should be in next season? (Vote): 0
(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3 +
Too excited for the playoffs, BW4LYFE!
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KT isn't guaranteed to meet STX, depends on whether KHAN beats ACE in an hour or not.
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On July 05 2011 16:42 moopie wrote:
KT isn't guaranteed to meet STX, depends on whether KHAN beats ACE in an hour or not.
Ahh I see, they're 25-28 with -14 game differentials, if they lose tonight they're going to drop to 25-29 with -14 which is worse than STX's 25-29 with -9.
Will update accordingly, 50% chance I don't have to do anything
On a related note, would Khan rather face Woongjin or KT? I guess we'll find out by the amount of trolling January decides to brew up tonight.
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KT vs STX:
KT should win. STX really doesn't have anyone who can take a game from Flash. Kal really hasn't been performing well lately, and I don't think Calm could've taken a game off of Flash during his long past prime. This puts KT 2:0 over STX.
Stats has been doing great lately, but he should perform during the playoffs. I actually have great faith in Stats unless he meets Calm or Hero; even then, it should still be 50:50 at the very worst.
Action can take a game from almost any Protoss if he plays well, especially with the trendy 4 base 6 hatch play.
And there's always Hoejja, Crazy-Hydra and Perfective.
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I think a lot of you are underestimating STX. They have their offdays, sure, but their full force is something to behold. Decent players of every race, a Bogus at his current peak and Calm and Kal slowly regaining momentum? I could see them going as far as CJ. I'm sure it won't be 2-0 KT, STX should at least take one game.
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Does anyone know whether Flash will be playing against STX? Or will KT try to win without him?
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As a Khan fan, I'm really anxious about facing Woongjin... We only beat them once in 6 rounds, their zerg line is really strong, and our strength is our Protoss line. Soulkey and Zero have both beaten Stork this season when he was in much better form than he is now. I hope that the new and improved Jangbi can step up and take one of them down, and that one of our other protosses can beat Light. If that happens I think Khan can win the series 4-2, but I don't like Khan's chances if it goes to ace.
Anyone know if the playoff format is the same as last year (bo3 bo7)? If it is, Khan has to do it twice which will be twice as hard 
As for the other match, I think STX can take it if Kal or Calm (or better, both) steps up. Like Khan, I don't like their chances if it goes to ace, because even an injured Flash is good enough that he'll be favored against whoever STX sends out. The rest of KT has looked horrible recently... I can see a 4-2 or 4-1 for STX happening.
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On July 05 2011 22:34 Gann1 wrote:As a Khan fan, I'm really anxious about facing Woongjin... We only beat them once in 6 rounds, their zerg line is really strong, and our strength is our Protoss line. Soulkey and Zero have both beaten Stork this season when he was in much better form than he is now. I hope that the new and improved Jangbi can step up and take one of them down, and that one of our other protosses can beat Light. If that happens I think Khan can win the series 4-2, but I don't like Khan's chances if it goes to ace. Anyone know if the playoff format is the same as last year (bo3 bo7)? If it is, Khan has to do it twice which will be twice as hard
Have some confidence. You forgot about Reality and TurN. Those 2 are more than capable to putting dents in Zergs.
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KTFlash gets to the final by his own.I'm rooting for KT but i think CJ have a much better lineup overall and might take the whole thing.
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God please only one round of winners league next season. Winners league is nice but 2 rounds is just way way to much.
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On July 05 2011 22:37 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 22:34 Gann1 wrote:As a Khan fan, I'm really anxious about facing Woongjin... We only beat them once in 6 rounds, their zerg line is really strong, and our strength is our Protoss line. Soulkey and Zero have both beaten Stork this season when he was in much better form than he is now. I hope that the new and improved Jangbi can step up and take one of them down, and that one of our other protosses can beat Light. If that happens I think Khan can win the series 4-2, but I don't like Khan's chances if it goes to ace. Anyone know if the playoff format is the same as last year (bo3 bo7)? If it is, Khan has to do it twice which will be twice as hard Have some confidence. You forgot about Reality and TurN. Those 2 are more than capable to putting dents in Zergs.
I have faith in our rookies being able to beat the rest of Stars, just not the big three. That's why I think if two of our big guns can take out two of theirs, the match will be ours 4-2. Khan is deeper than Woongjin for sure... I'm sure Reality, Brave, and Grape can beat Free, Really and Flying/GuemChi.
One thing that makes this match easier than most of our matches against Stars this season is the fact that C-H is gone. The more I think about it the more I think Khan can do it as long as none of the rookies crack under pressure. Hopefully January pulls another Miracle and gets them all winnable matchups.
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CJ for the gold! I hope STX makes it out of the first round though.
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hoping for a khan/stars victory but failing that probably cj
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Ideally I'd like to see STX win it and I think they can definitely make it to 3rd place at least if they're in form. Otherwise I would like to see either CJ or WJN beat SKT1.
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It depends entirely on whether Action, CH, Hoejja and Tempest decide to play well or not.
KT is a team where mediocrity doesn't apply. When they win they win big, and when they fail it looks like they're throwing games.
I hope to see KT in shanghai. Facing SKT. And beating them again like the last PL finals
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Action chokes as usual
Godhand saves the day
Stats will suck until semis wherein he'll miraculously start beasting again
Perfective slumping HARD, Barracks might squeeze a lucky one
Crazy-Hydra too crazy (read: inconsistent) to predict, honestly not too high on him either
Overall I believe if KT makes it to CJ, they'll win the whole thing. Otherwise, they'll just sputter and flame out in another disappointing postseason.
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On July 05 2011 23:28 hauton wrote:
Action chokes as usual
Godhand saves the day
Stats will suck until semis wherein he'll miraculously start beasting again
Perfective slumping HARD, Barracks might squeeze a lucky one
Crazy-Hydra too crazy (read: inconsistent) to predict, honestly not too high on him either
Overall I believe if KT makes it to CJ, they'll win the whole thing. Otherwise, they'll just sputter and flame out in another disappointing postseason.
More importantly they still have the MANTOSS.
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OP needs to add a poll called:
"Where should the next PL finals take place?"
a. gwang-anri
b. gwang-anri
c gwang-anri
d. gwang-anri
I agree that STX shouldn't be underestimated. Kal/calm remain as their excellent ace players and the rest of their regular players are quite solid. It's a terrible terrible shame they had to lose hwasin. STX could have had an ace lineup comparable to SKT1 - in other words, they could have been running at 1st or 2nd place.
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What is the format ? how many bo7's are played in every stage of the playoffs ?
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Could be wrong but it should be 3 days of Bo7's at every stage, except for the final which is 1 Bo7. Format is like this:
3rd Seed (KT) vs 6th Seed (STX)
4th Seed (WJN) vs 5th Seed (KHAN)
Winner of 3/6 vs Winner of 4/5
Winner of previous match vs 2nd Seed (CJ)
Winner of previous match vs 1st Seed (SKT1)
Edit: Ty mustaju for catching my error.
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Sigh... my hope of Khan tanking for #6 didn't come into fruition. Oh well. Hope they beat Woonjin. I feel they'll do well against either KT or STX. But the Stars lineup IMO give them trouble. Here's hoping Stork stop playing cellphone games, great become great again, and pray they have some revolutionary PvZ builds.
On July 05 2011 23:40 white_horse wrote:
OP needs to add a poll called:
"Where should the next PL finals take place?"
a. gwang-anri
b. gwang-anri
c gwang-anri
d. gwang-anri
If professional starcraft is really as much in the red as they seem to be, I do hope they can expand to a larger market to ensure more seasons. So for this reason I support the move.
Honestly, unless you're actually going to the event, it's not that big of a deal. I won't go to the finals regardless... except perhaps if by some miracle Khan makes it.
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On July 05 2011 23:47 ZeaL. wrote:
Could be wrong but it should be 3 days of Bo7's at every stage.
This with the exception of the Grand Finals. Grand Finals are only one boX. Thank God I don't have to see SKT more than once.
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On July 05 2011 23:53 mustaju wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 23:47 ZeaL. wrote:
Could be wrong but it should be 3 days of Bo7's at every stage.
This with the exception of the Grand Finals. Grand Finals are only one boX. Thank God I don't have to see SKT more than once.
Thanks for catching that though, I wouldn't mind watching SKT lose multiple times.
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Sigh after 3 years of watching proleague I still dont get the format
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Can't see anyone except SKT winning it. Bisu only has to practice for one individual league so he'll have ample time to practice for the final.
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On July 06 2011 00:20 Ryo wrote:
Can't see anyone except SKT winning it. Bisu only has to practice for one individual league so he'll have ample time to practice for the final.
Unfortunately, I agree. I wouldn't even be surprised if SKT only makes him practice for PL instead of MSL, and if Bisu dropped out of that individual league because of it.
I'm wondering, who are you cheering for?
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On July 06 2011 00:37 mustaju wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 00:20 Ryo wrote:
Can't see anyone except SKT winning it. Bisu only has to practice for one individual league so he'll have ample time to practice for the final. Unfortunately, I agree. I wouldn't even be surprised if SKT only makes him practice for PL instead of MSL, and if Bisu dropped out of that individual league because of it. I'm wondering, who are you cheering for?
Nah, Bisu would never agree to doing that. In Bisu's heart, MSL > PL. But I'm not sure how far he'll go in the MSL, that will depend on what happens at the Group Selection for Ro32.
I cheer for good games. Let all matches be won 4-3.
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Hmm... KHAN/Stars is an interesting match up simply because both are heavily inconsistent. KHAN was pwning left and right for a bit, even destroying CJ, only to end up losing 4-0 to OZ. Stars are similar, they will beat all the good teams and lose to all the bad ones. I believe just whoever shows up to play that day will win, most likely a 4-2 result. SKT has been showing a little more consistency with best in decent shape, Rain is winning again, and the zergs are doing their job. I believe if Fantasy is in form, SKT should be able to win this year but CJ is most likely going to be the other team in the finals.
I CANT WAIT FOR THE GAMES!
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Two rounds of winner's league is ok if they split them up (ideally round 2 and 5) rather than have them next to each other. Winner's league is fun but you get tired of it before the end of two consecutive rounds of it.
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Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 23:40 white_horse wrote:
OP needs to add a poll called:
"Where should the next PL finals take place?"
a. gwang-anri
b. gwang-anri
c gwang-anri
d. gwang-anri
If professional starcraft is really as much in the red as they seem to be, I do hope they can expand to a larger market to ensure more seasons. So for this reason I support the move. Honestly, unless you're actually going to the event, it's not that big of a deal. I won't go to the finals regardless... except perhaps if by some miracle Khan makes it.
That was a just a joke. lets not make this into a gwang-anri vs. shanghai thread but I just want to ask since when was pro korean BW dying shortly? I kept reading this kind of posts in the thread about the finals in shanghai.
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On July 05 2011 23:40 white_horse wrote:
OP needs to add a poll called:
"Where should the next PL finals take place?"
a. gwang-anri
b. gwang-anri
c gwang-anri
d. gwang-anri
hahaha this!
and of course, the Superior KT, SKT will win this ezpz.
and 1 round of winner's league please, then ACE might get into playoffs :>
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i hope they use the dream league format for the grand final
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If STX comes out ready to play I really believe that they can take down KT, I don't think KT is that deep tbh.
I think CJ will win it all.
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On July 06 2011 01:35 GTR wrote:
i hope they use the dream league format for the grand final
That would be insane; but a Bo11 based off of that would be a dream match, especially if it were of 2 teams with DEEP lineups i.e. an SKT vs CJ/Stars Final.
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I want CJ to win it all honestly, kind of sick seeing T1 at the finals over and over, even if they did deserve it at times.
If effOrt was allowed to play, this would definitely be CJ's playoffs to win.
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CJ has got this
Xellos shall be their ace player
Hyuk for SKT's ace
Are finals on the 5th or 6th of August?
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On July 06 2011 01:51 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
I want CJ to win it all honestly, kind of sick seeing T1 at the finals over and over, even if they did deserve it at times.
If effOrt was allowed to play, this would definitely be CJ's playoffs to win.
This is still CJ's to win. They're a better team than SKT (and every other team), the only weakness they have against SKT is in the ace match.
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Has fantasy ever lost a game in the PL grand finals? I know he beat Jaedong twice, but i don't know of other appearances. Also, captain hyuk will be the set 6 player.
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