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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
December 19 2004 08:54 GMT
#41
Okay this is really weird.. Loads of posts have dissappeared from this thread, and last time I opened it there was just 1 page + 1 post while this morning there was like 3 pages..

Now I open it and it's 2 ..

-.- WTH?
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17015 Posts
December 19 2004 08:55 GMT
#42
On December 19 2004 17:10 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
we do


There's strafe and his usual personality

<3 Strafe.
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OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
December 19 2004 09:10 GMT
#43
On December 19 2004 02:33 [ErOs]~InCoGniTo wrote:
interesting, kind of, not really .... zzZzzzz
anyways.. ToT is a good team but still not really the best like people make them out to be, thier stacked for "wgt" players, but on the grandscale thier still pretty low on the chain, i think it would be pretty funny to see them go up vs some of the top west teams, although dont take away anything from ToT from my post.. it is a great team for b.net standerds.
RRB = excellent player, would be a good addition.
And for everyone saying that ToT will take everyone that suddenly becomes good players, that is a good thing, not bad.
Most people will make thier names by joining ToT, by that they can further thier growth as gamers, then move onto better things, there is obviously better teams than ToT, and once making thier names and practising, people can introduce themselves into the korean communities and further themselves even more.


stop talking about how great the west clans are were talking about europe and also that last part is obvious, anyways yea this clan is great but everyone knows they are not gonna stay together
troi oi thang map nai!!!
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
December 19 2004 10:13 GMT
#44
On December 19 2004 17:50 gg_hertzz wrote:
This situation harkens back to the Boxer-Yellow Ever series.

Boxer won it quickly with strategies most fans disapproved-of because from a fan's persective it wasn't that great to watch.

This time, ToT has become a BW superpower-team but it makes things less exciting because there's no sense of competition.


I don't even see how you can compare the two. Starleague is TOP BW players. This thread is just about an internet clan/guild who happens to be getting people who are top non-Korean players to join. I don't see it as disappointing because when do you ever see ToT really compete? Some gay WGT clan battles where half the players don't show or make excuses? I'm actually most sad that people made TWO THREADS about new people joining ToT. Maybe soon we will see threads on who the new people joining X17 are since that's such a top East team.

As far as competing against Korean pro teams(Or even west guilds). Not gonna happen. These players could all play together before they joined the team. I doubt they will be much more motivated JUST BECAUSE they are in ToT now.
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CyuntiyuL
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada1740 Posts
December 19 2004 10:51 GMT
#45
This reminds me of Kirby in Super Smash Bros. on N64. He was fucking stacked like crazy, cheapest character in that game for sure.
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IcedEarth
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States3661 Posts
December 19 2004 11:18 GMT
#46
On December 19 2004 19:13 red.venom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2004 17:50 gg_hertzz wrote:
This situation harkens back to the Boxer-Yellow Ever series.

Boxer won it quickly with strategies most fans disapproved-of because from a fan's persective it wasn't that great to watch.

This time, ToT has become a BW superpower-team but it makes things less exciting because there's no sense of competition.


I don't even see how you can compare the two. Starleague is TOP BW players. This thread is just about an internet clan/guild who happens to be getting people who are top non-Korean players to join. I don't see it as disappointing because when do you ever see ToT really compete? Some gay WGT clan battles where half the players don't show or make excuses? I'm actually most sad that people made TWO THREADS about new people joining ToT. Maybe soon we will see threads on who the new people joining X17 are since that's such a top East team.

As far as competing against Korean pro teams(Or even west guilds). Not gonna happen. These players could all play together before they joined the team. I doubt they will be much more motivated JUST BECAUSE they are in ToT now.


We will never see threads about people who join X17, because X17 has gone straight downhill since Flamer, BJ, and I left.

ToT is a great clan and they are getting stronger and stronger, but yeah I agree with the fact that they need competition. My favorite clan ever, since I first found out about clans, has been pG. I hope they regroup and some old members start being active again.
Guardian guardian guardian of the blind
karelen
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2407 Posts
December 19 2004 11:39 GMT
#47
what is the current pG lineup by the way..? assuming they even have enough active members to get one.
zzzzzz
RiVerS)cOHci
Profile Joined November 2004
Canada128 Posts
December 19 2004 11:52 GMT
#48
ToT is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too strong for pG now, Timothy and RRb just sealed the deal I am afraid to say
OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
December 19 2004 11:53 GMT
#49
On December 19 2004 20:52 RiVerS)cOHci wrote:
ToT is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too strong for pG now, Timothy and RRb just sealed the deal I am afraid to say

i agree T.T
Depression is just a sarcastic state of mind. Liquid`HerO Fighting!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
December 19 2004 11:55 GMT
#50
I always liked rS. :D
Never Knows Best.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
December 19 2004 11:55 GMT
#51
i dont see whats so bad about threads about people joining tot)(, this IS the foreign bw scene, so it would make sense to have news about players joining the top foreign clan...not everyone reads the tot site
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Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
December 19 2004 12:06 GMT
#52
On December 19 2004 20:53 MaRiO.BrOs_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2004 20:52 RiVerS)cOHci wrote:
ToT is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too strong for pG now, Timothy and RRb just sealed the deal I am afraid to say

i agree T.T


nah, fishs arbs own all the ToTs...
11 years and counting- TL #680
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 19 2004 12:12 GMT
#53
oh wow, ToT) is growing very strong. 0_0
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22256 Posts
December 19 2004 12:23 GMT
#54
Hmm.. I had a post above [ErOs]~InCoGniTo's, any reason it was deleted?
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
December 19 2004 12:25 GMT
#55
On December 19 2004 17:54 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Okay this is really weird.. Loads of posts have dissappeared from this thread, and last time I opened it there was just 1 page + 1 post while this morning there was like 3 pages..

Now I open it and it's 2 ..

-.- WTH?

I removed some posts discussing Taiwan/China
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IcedEarth
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States3661 Posts
December 19 2004 12:37 GMT
#56
On December 19 2004 20:52 RiVerS)cOHci wrote:
ToT is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too strong for pG now, Timothy and RRb just sealed the deal I am afraid to say


I like timothy, he's a great player and all, but I can name 10 pGs who can at least 2-1 him in any bo3.
Guardian guardian guardian of the blind
AgonyRush
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2540 Posts
December 19 2004 12:41 GMT
#57
On December 19 2004 21:37 IcedEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2004 20:52 RiVerS)cOHci wrote:
ToT is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too strong for pG now, Timothy and RRb just sealed the deal I am afraid to say


I like timothy, he's a great player and all, but I can name 10 pGs who can at least 2-1 him in any bo3.

whats pG bw line up now?
A team is only as good as its worst lineup
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
December 19 2004 12:56 GMT
#58
On December 19 2004 12:14 Liquid`Daaman wrote:
I guess a new way of looking at all of this (for me anyway) is that ToT is gathering everyone to practice hard and try to come a bit closer to the korean level =p

LET'S HOPE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THINKING!!


Sorry mate,as far as I can see the Germans are trying to rule the world











deja vu.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22256 Posts
December 19 2004 13:07 GMT
#59
On December 19 2004 21:25 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2004 17:54 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Okay this is really weird.. Loads of posts have dissappeared from this thread, and last time I opened it there was just 1 page + 1 post while this morning there was like 3 pages..

Now I open it and it's 2 ..

-.- WTH?

I removed some posts discussing Taiwan/China


That explains where mine went.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
December 19 2004 13:31 GMT
#60
On December 19 2004 21:56 RaGe-xG- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2004 12:14 Liquid`Daaman wrote:
I guess a new way of looking at all of this (for me anyway) is that ToT is gathering everyone to practice hard and try to come a bit closer to the korean level =p

LET'S HOPE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THINKING!!


Sorry mate,as far as I can see the Germans are trying to rule the world











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