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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
March 23 2011 23:57 GMT
#421
I highly doubt Stork is moving. I think Jangbi and Brave are more likely to move over to KT.

We'll see, though. There are a lot of contradictory or confusing messages here.
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
March 24 2011 00:09 GMT
#422
On March 24 2011 08:57 infinitestory wrote:
I highly doubt Stork is moving. I think Jangbi and Brave are more likely to move over to KT.

KT doesn't need Jangbi though, they have Tempest to fill the same role.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
March 24 2011 00:14 GMT
#423
Should be Jangbi...

BW will end if it's Stork.

Fantasy is obviously not for sale. That leaves Stork/Jangbi/Great. Judging from Great's blog and Yellow's post, there is only one Kongliner who shall enter KT. Perhaps we misintepreted Great's post, and he shall be the one to enter KT. Otherwise, that leaves Jangbi.

One way or another, Stork entering KT is not funny.
BtBEviL
Profile Joined February 2010
Brazil35 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 00:26:22
March 24 2011 00:15 GMT
#424
Why people come on bw thread talk about sc2? -_______-

KT doesen't need another toss players since violet will come back =]

I really hope that news is not about transfer from somoene from khan to kt. But even if that happen is not a big deal since khan has a lot of good players.

When light leave mbc I thoght: OMG mbc is so screwd, than they beat kt and tyson, jaehoon, hyun, started to play very decent. And they still have sea who could beat anyone.

Anyway, long live to rock n' roll and bw.
MBC Fighting, Stork Fan, Nal_Ra fan, Bisu Fan, Shuttle Fan
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
March 24 2011 00:22 GMT
#425
Sorry to be noob, but what exactly is the Kong line? Is it just good players who've achieved #1 in solo tournaments?
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
aupstar
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia912 Posts
March 24 2011 00:25 GMT
#426
I don't disagree with any transfer.

It means the companies are still interested in esports and are willing to pay big bucks to have strong players in their team.

Samsung Khan is not a silly team. They know how to negotiate and if they think that they can compete with one of their star players leaving them, then good for them.

Khan has been struggling for a while now. They are doing what's right for the team by growing their younger players and giving them a chance. This is the only way they will become a strong team in the future. Transferring old timers is not going to contribute to the long term future of the team.

There's nothing stopping Khan from buying talent either. None of the teams in proleague are poor.

And no, I don't feel upset for light because I thought it was a great move by woongjin. They needed a solid player to be more competitive. They are still near the bottom of the league.

And I'd just like to reiterate...Flash is home grown talent and Bisu is from MBC.
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 00:30:23
March 24 2011 00:29 GMT
#427
On March 24 2011 09:22 Archers_bane wrote:
Sorry to be noob, but what exactly is the Kong line? Is it just good players who've achieved #1 in solo tournaments?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=110538
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188061
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Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
March 24 2011 00:30 GMT
#428
On March 24 2011 09:22 Archers_bane wrote:
Sorry to be noob, but what exactly is the Kong line? Is it just good players who've achieved #1 in solo tournaments?

Kong Line: First, you have to know who the infamous "Kong" is. "Kong" is the nickname of Hong Jin Ho, aka Yellow. "Kong" in Korean means "bean", which rhymes with Yellow's last name, Hong, and Yellow's height... is not exactly the tallest, which is why people have dubbed him "Kong", poking fun at his small bean-like height.

But what is the so-called "Kong Line"? Yellow is infamous for always getting to the finals of tournaments and then losing them, thus getting whole bunch of silver trophies/2nd place results racked up on his record. That's why his fans call him the "King of Silver" or the "Silver Surfer". Whenever another player starts to rack up a lot of silvers, people then say that they are officially a member of the "Kong Line", or "Silver Surfer Club". So far the members of the Kong Line are Yellow as the leader and founder of the club, Stork, Jangbi, Fantasy, and great, the newest member who fans consider to have entered the Kong Line with his 1st silver from losing the MSL. It is definitely not a good thing to be a member in the Kong Line; you want to escape from it by winning more golds/taking more 1st place titles.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
March 24 2011 00:34 GMT
#429
Its too early to say great is in the Kong line. Stork/Jangbi/fantasy are longtime members though. Don't want any of them in my precious KT ㅠ_ㅠ
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 24 2011 00:34 GMT
#430
Are we sure that it is khan player transferring ?
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
GBataille
Profile Joined March 2011
France19 Posts
March 24 2011 00:37 GMT
#431
On March 24 2011 08:38 Elefanto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 08:17 infinity2k9 wrote:
On March 24 2011 08:04 aupstar wrote:
Gosh, nobody complained like this when skt bought bisu, july or hyuk. KT is short a protoss after Violet became ill. This is a very logical choice to keep the team strong. Stats is strong right now but how long will he be in form? Also, I don't think it will be stork who goes.


Because KT is clearly top easily, and transfers like Light and this one are damaging the Proleague balance further. Don't you feel bad for the Khan fans the fact you're team is possibly going to take one of their top players when you actually don't need it at all? I don't want to see teams get gutted and dissolved. You'd have to be a seriously blind fanboy to not see what very well could possibly happen if the talent keeps getting taken from the smaller teams.

I think KeSPA should somehow get involved here. BW is not sustainable like a typical sport whereby the teams can simply buy the smaller teams best players. If this happens the other teams could very well just fold and nobody wants that.


Yeah, i see it the same.
Money shouldn't be the deciding factor if a team is great / favorite to winning titles.
If you want to booster up your team, look for another / new coach.
But more importanly, focus on your / the rookies.
Have coaches focus on them, let them gather every possibly experience and slowly
get them to the A-Team.

That's something i really don't like about SKT for instance. They have / had FBB, but they really don't give their aspiring players much playtime. Sun is the only one getting sent out more frequently, and just in winners league. Remember last time Ssak played? Me neither. Paralyze? Never. They even send out their Zergs as rarly as possible. That's not how a strong team should be imo.
Whole winners league was basically hoping Bisu going to clean and fantasy to not have his horrendous days.

I really really thought / hoped Samsung would again become a strong force with grape, turn,brave and reality as soon as they get accustomed to the pro-league environement with the elders jangbi / stork beeing the flagship.

I had this idea already when KT bought Action. There should be some kind of drafting system, like in the NBA. But I guess all the strange KeSPA rules regarding free agency is to prevent these things from happening.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
March 24 2011 00:38 GMT
#432
On March 24 2011 09:34 moopie wrote:
Its too early to say great is in the Kong line. Stork/Jangbi/fantasy are longtime members though. Don't want any of them in my precious KT ㅠ_ㅠ

I personally don't consider great to be a member of the Kong line, but after he lost in the MSL, the Korean netizens immediately went, "LOOOL welcome the newest member of the Kong Line!!! Finally a Zerg successor to founder Yellow!!" and such. I heard that Jangbi was also poking fun at great after he lost because great liked to make fun of him for being a member of the Kong Line, and he said something along the lines of, "Now you know how it feels to be a member of the Kong Line >)" but I just saw that in a comment somewhere, so I'd take that with a grain of salt.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 00:50:46
March 24 2011 00:44 GMT
#433
KT buying new players is just stupid. Stork leaving Khan is just INSANE! They don't even have FBH as an ace! I hope that the Korean Broodwar scene don't end up with only 2 teams fighting each other because they bought all of the other teams aces and those teams lost a lot to this 2, never won anything, got their salary reduced and they just decide to disband. 12....11....10....9......8.....Sparkyz......Estro.....MBC(?).....Khan(?).....
I'm really hyped for this announcement, now, I don't even want to know what this is all about.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
March 24 2011 01:30 GMT
#434
It is ok for all of you to talk about competitive scene but what about Stork?
He wants to stack some money, and if Samsung doesn't want to raise his salary what reason to stay with KHAN? He is professional gamer after all, he makes his living from it.
All sport's clubs are similar in this:
money = good players
no money = farm club
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
March 24 2011 01:39 GMT
#435
wooooooooooooooow stork to KTF? fo rela?
Forever Young
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 01:44:56
March 24 2011 01:44 GMT
#436
I think its (P)JangBi,since (P)Stork just renewed his contract with KHAN last september.

I hope its (T)TurN.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
March 24 2011 01:46 GMT
#437
i am certain now its jangbi. when jaedong was doing free agency, all the teams had a gentlemans agreement that skt would not try and poach him because it would ruin proleague (bisu, jaedong, fantasy AND best?!). in my opinion, kt getting stork would create a similar situation.
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FakePlasticLove
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States357 Posts
March 24 2011 01:50 GMT
#438
But why do they want Jangbi? He sucks.
KT needs a terran to replace Forgg.
All walls are great if the roof doesn't fall
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
March 24 2011 01:52 GMT
#439
It would suck if it was Stork, honestly. It would mean Flash and Stork only go against each other in individual leagues and even then it's a weird team kill scenario. If they get Jangbi that'd be fine I guess but he's worse than Stats, so it would kind of mean he's filling in for Violet in my eyes, which means Violet won't be back too soon? That's kind of a big leap but it would be kind of much for them to be playing Jangbi, Stats and Violet. Then again, regualar PL is up to 6 players so idk.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
March 24 2011 01:53 GMT
#440
On March 24 2011 10:50 FakePlasticLove wrote:
But why do they want Jangbi? He sucks.
KT needs a terran to replace Forgg.


do you even know who JangBi is?
maybe he doesn't like the environment in his team so hes not playing all that well.I would love to see the most psi storm ever to return.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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